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https://twitter.com/randygdub/status/796878548979978240 http://www.nbc29.com/story/33682055/virginia-democrats-raise-funds-for-vandalized-gop-headquarters They will never learn
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Nov 11, 2016 02:48
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Larry Parrish posted:Abandon the festering corpse of neoliberalism and support the PSL folks Protest I dragged two of my friends to was lit and I signed up today Telling everyone I know who still has hopes for the Dems to look into DSA, since it seems they want to be the US version of Momentum in the UK. IE, trying to seize control of the Dems/Labour for the left.
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Nov 11, 2016 03:12
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Concordat posted:PSL? Party for Socialism and Liberation http://www.pslweb.org/
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Nov 11, 2016 03:25
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bump_fn posted:no third party has the country-wide infrastructure the dems have. this is why it's so important to try to convince people to own the gently caress-up so they have to acknowledge that they need to change Judging by the experience of UK Labour they won't admit any wrong doing, but they just might be so trash at actual politics an (hopefully) incipient mass movement can beat them and take control of at least some of that infrastructure.
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Nov 11, 2016 03:31
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Not a Step posted:Democrats need to realize middle America is a must win group and find ways to consistently bring them on board. Obama did it twice! The electorate is already out there! They aren't even the racist boogeymen the WokeLords are crying about. They just want someone to give a poo poo about their dead unions and dying towns, and maybe recognize that all of civilization is not found within 50 miles of an ocean. Also black people, latinos, asians, muslims, students, and lgbtq people all live in Rust belt states too and are under daily attack by their lovely state government. The Dems have been trash at inspiring them and turning them out, especially with GOP voter suppression. Hell, Pence caused a loving HIV outbreak and the Michigan gov poisoned the drinking water but all we heard about for the last few weeks from the Clinton campaign was "Russian subervision" Al! posted:an incipient mass movement just did my friend........... ok now you go Trump steamrolling everyone out of nowhere is a pretty good indicator that the political class is out of touch
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Nov 11, 2016 03:38
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CheesyDog posted:I talked about wondering how millennials were going to handle regression of social issues in one of these drat threads, and it's not looking good... Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Gay Communist Gun Club is good, friend. These posts go great together
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Nov 11, 2016 03:42
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Optimus Subprime posted:In all of the craziness of the election, I totally forgot that the choices of a republican governor literally poisoned an entire city. HOW THE gently caress DO YOU NOT HAMMER THAT poo poo HOME!? It could literally happen to any city. If the bar is so low that you can promise that you will provide a safe drinking water system, poo poo should be in the bag. I'm seeing red right now. tbf the problem completely went away after some Priztkers donated a bit of cash jk they are still using bottled water every day the story of a multi racial blue collar community being destroyed by de industrialization and then poisoned by privatization is apparently unappealing to Dem strategists
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Nov 11, 2016 03:47
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Optimus Subprime posted:Clinton had no ground game in the places where it mattered. She left the Wisconsin and Florida senate races out to dry. Where did all of the money go? The greater Podesta clan and their courtiers
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Nov 11, 2016 03:51
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They also had to evacuate a neighborhood in East Chicago because the dang dirt was too poisoned by industrial runoff. Omg I didn't know that about East Chicago That place is pretty much governed by an oligarchy of casino and steel interests
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Nov 11, 2016 03:57
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Raskolnikov38 posted:oh man i completly checked out these last couple weeks of this election, did hillary really say loving nothing on north dakota http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/10/28/what-crock-clinton-breaks-dapl-silence-statement-says-literally-nothing quote:The statement from director of coalitions press Xochitl Hinojosa, who oversees Hispanic, black, and women's media for the Clinton campaign, reads in full: "all voices should be heard" the spokesperson released very little during the campaign and was possibly chosen because her name sounds indigenous
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Nov 11, 2016 04:03
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It's sort of insane how cosmopolitan and non-white are getting associated as synonyms in some post-election takes A lot of minority communities are poor which means not being able to travel and experience a lot so they're very non-cosmopolitan in some respects Like yeah, some rural whites haven't left their states, but plenty of black and brown people haven't been able to leave their cities or neighborhoods Ability/willingness to travel is a trash way to base political analysis
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Nov 11, 2016 04:12
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Thoguh posted:Like it or not Trump is going to be president and he ran on a populist platform that had a lot of overlap with what Bernie and Warren want to accomplish. If they can use him to get some economic reforms through and real infrastructure spending done then that's a good thing. he's going to guillotine random jews because he's good friends with all the bankers he adopted populist economic rhetoric and is not going to redistribute any actual wealth
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Nov 11, 2016 04:22
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mrmcd posted:Working class / rural policy discussions aside, can we just take a moment to appreciate how unbelievably bad Hillary is at running for President? 
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Nov 11, 2016 04:25
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Al! posted:oh god, dont tell me some of you idiots actually believed trump was a secret class warrior don't pin Zizek's endorsement on me
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Nov 11, 2016 04:29
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Mook's name should have disqualified him
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Nov 11, 2016 04:34
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Bobby Mook is the name of a Star Wars character that fucks up planning a rebel assualt
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Nov 11, 2016 04:36
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:You all realize that working class people are being pushed out into the suburbs while urban zones are being gentrified, right? No one is talking about this
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Nov 11, 2016 08:52
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Shinjobi posted:I don't think I'm anywhere near qualified for anything serious, since I'm 28 and still don't even have a goddamn bachelor's degree. But gently caress......this loss hurts. Something has to be done, and it's got to be done soon. If I have to make an rear end out of myself to maybe inspire someone else, I'll do it. This is one area where President Trump should be an inspiration
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Nov 11, 2016 08:53
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Venom Snake posted:lol Dude you're a 20 year old Dem apparatchik who got his position thanks to familial connections right? Your heart's in the right place but uhhhh like drat. Take your skills and work for a union if you want change. Unite Here has a decent presence around DC if you're impressed with what their Culinary Union local did in Nevada.
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Nov 11, 2016 09:04
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For the new page https://twitter.com/nypost/status/796921717759377408
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Nov 11, 2016 09:13
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Nov 11, 2016 09:31
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Grondoth posted:Why is it so fuckin' hard to find the person who votes for DNC stuff in NY? They run New York so why be transparent? For real New York doesn't even have early voting right?
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Nov 11, 2016 19:19
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Honestly, I think there might be contingent of voters who want the guy most seemingly opposed to DC to run the place. Like, plenty of white Americans are sort of racist but know white supremacy or some variation on that idea is real and is bad, so sending a black guy to DC makes sense to screw with the system. They might be afraid of crime in the "inner cities," but they know a few black or brown people that are good people. Similarly, Trump is a goddamn reality show freak so hopefully he'll hurt the elite in the country in some way to, since they all seem to detest him so much. GOP backers tend to not be super public, so if you're not up on the news you can miss out on the collection of bizarre billionaires backing him. These people aren't hardcore white nationalists, but minority issues are not really important to them. Ok that's my unscientific take on why Trump can be elected while Obama is popular, I'll go back to Leftist taunts after this.
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Nov 11, 2016 19:30
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How did the Working Families Party do in NY this election btw? I know Teachout lost. Fusion tickets are a niche strategy but their emphasis of getting grassroots support and local involvement seems pretty great.
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Nov 11, 2016 19:34
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Mister Fister posted:Going out for lunch, but this is a great read about how the media (especially the washington post) went out of their way to gently caress Bernie Sanders: I'm shocked a paper owned by a tech oligarch was against the mild social democrat
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Nov 11, 2016 20:30
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The Trump supporters I'm seeing that I feel free to write off are the ones who don't mention the economy and are mostly concerned with Hillary disrespecting the country and Trump bringing back pride to our cops and armed forces. Those are the ones that scare me.
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Nov 11, 2016 21:29
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Fiction posted:The House Freedom Caucus will never let the Republican Party help anyone. Our petty bourgeoisie is too spiteful to actually enact fascism. America may once again inadvertently be saved by these idiots.
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Nov 11, 2016 21:33
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Nov 11, 2016 22:52
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SpaceGoku posted:this is old and probably wont happen, I say to myself as I get dragged into a van with a dude sparking car jumper cables menacingly But enough about the Chicago Police Department
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Nov 11, 2016 23:05
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Nov 11, 2016 23:12
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Fast Luck posted:We need to fight against racism and voter suppression and xenophobia, but what I hope we've learned here is that the way to do that maybe isn't to call tuition free state college "racist" but rather to bash the fasc I remember when people asked how free public college would help HBCUs and apparently the existence of historically black state colleges was unknown to the pundit class That was pretty great
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Nov 11, 2016 23:49
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mastershakeman posted:link because lol even I,a dude who grew up around lawn jockeys in the rust belt, knows about them  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270214-clyburn-sanderss-plan-would-kill-black-colleges Clyburn even went to a public HBCU so yeah idk
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Nov 12, 2016 00:04
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Sojenus posted:The right way to protest has always been quietly away out of sight and out of mind instead of, oh gosh, interfering with the system you're protesting, thank you very much. I love how even in the cases where the protesters brought their own poo poo to burn, burning that poo poo was still inappropriate vandalism Like good god, burning a Trump pinata made to be burned is not a riot people
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Nov 12, 2016 00:06
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And with that Robby Mook returned to his home planet
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Nov 12, 2016 00:08
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Lastgirl posted:Centrists don't have any values, they just like empty platitudes. Uh excuse me, I know a certain radical centrist who has on thing he really values: Parenthood 
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Nov 12, 2016 00:11
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Can we talk now about how the idea that "demographics are destiny" is basically unreconstructed race science? Liberals do really love race science 
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Nov 12, 2016 02:22
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The Clinton part of the Dems are going to go full social Darwinist in response to the loss
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Nov 12, 2016 02:25
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Wow our politics are diseased
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Can we talk now about how the idea that "demographics are destiny" is basically unreconstructed race science? Actual response to this is I think "demographics are destiny" ideology hosed up the Dems more than "identity politics" Viewing the electorate as just race, gender, and education (as a proxy for class) means the Dems missed a lot of obvious things. Like white women going to Trump, and Mook turning out other Trump supporters. It's also blinding a lot of the debate over Trump's base, because many commentators are assuming the high school educated white guy in Pittsburgh who's just sort of pissy about DC is as racist and ignorant as the high school educated guy in N. Carolina getting ready for the Klan. The geography of those two things can be switched too, since not all white guys in the South are racist and not all Northerners are woke. Things like social networks, life experiences, type of employment and union membership are just as important in determining beliefs in many social theories, but are hard for data firms to track. So you get a politics of what your data guys can track, and it winds up they think of things in terms of race science. Hot sauce and Beyonce for the black turnout, Abuela for the Latinos, and Lena Dunham for white women. Actually talking to people, learning of their concerns, and making a good faith effort to address them is better than whatever the gently caress Clinton 2016 just did.
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