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Nov 15, 2003

Top City Homo posted:

when neoliberals dog whistle about inflation they are actually talking about rising labor costs :ssh:

inflation is actually driven by increase in economic rent and higher pricing of goods and services (profit extraction)

cheers

Hang on a second. Inflation is driven by increases in the money supply. QE has pumped tons of money in the economy, and while its true policy makers have done everything to keep inflation down, you can't do that forever. Inflation has to hit sometime. I don't think it's going to stay quiet with a trillion dollars of infrastructure stimulus floating around.

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Nov 15, 2003

Well What Now posted:

ah yes, another new and exciting leftist political party with an alphabet soup name and double digit membership is exactly what's called for right now

I like the American Progressive Party, or APP. The kids love APPs!

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Nov 15, 2003
WW3 occurs five years after the Middle East overcomes the Sunni/Shiite divide and forms a unified secular democracy from Egypt to Iran so we can't ever let it happen

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Nov 15, 2003

Not a Step posted:

So... never?

Not if we consistently destroy Arab secularism wherever it appears, no. Keeping an entire region backwards in 2016 takes a lot of effort though.

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Nov 15, 2003

Not a Step posted:

Inflation is actually good though friend. Inflation increases the cost of holding money and makes investment more attractive. Companies routinely sit on cash stockpiles because they don't know what to do with it and there's no real downside to holding cash, or maybe treasury bonds. Higher inflation would drive investment (or flight, I guess, but there aren't a whole lot of major investment opportunities elsewhere right now, and even with all the turmoil the American dollar is still the safest currency on Earth, well, unless lol Trump) of corporate America's liquid holdings. That was one of the weak points of QE: It doesnt matter how much liquid cash you pump into the market if no one is interested in making new investments with it. Inflation is also good for debtors because they can pay back debts with inflated money, so it helps reduce the effective interest rate for *currently existing* loans. New loans (or variable rate loans) will have the current rate of inflation priced in, causing bigger numbers that work out to basically the same rate as now. The Fed has spent too long overfocusing on keeping inflation down, probably because the Fed is driven more by concerns for Wall Street than anything else. *Some* inflation is actually good and necessary for an economic system! *No* inflation in a system leads to hiding money under your mattress being one of the safest things you can do, which in turn leads to a breakdown of the fractional reserve system that underpins basically all of modern everything.

Oh yeah I get that inflation is good for investment, especially good for debtors, and frustrating for creditors. My concern about inflation was only regarding a static increase in the min wage, which, if they know or plan for inflation to occur, the republicans may push for as a "win" for Trump's presidency, only to see the increase in wage wiped out by the coming inflation.

Inflation will be great for millennials with student loan debt, IF their wages increase with it. I'll note that the banks have spent the last eight years foreclosing on people's home and hoarding them, so they might just be ready to pull that trigger.

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Nov 15, 2003

CherryCola posted:

this is really important
https://storify.com/miniver/how-fascism-accumulates-power-by-testing-people

Talks about how fascism happens faster than anyone expects and how dangerous normalization is in these situations. People need to stop talking about waiting and seeing what happens...because once whatever happens happens...it's going to be too late.

This tweet... whatever claims that Hitler went from power to Final Solution in 4 months. Hitler gained power in 1933. The Final Solution began between 1940-1942.

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Nov 15, 2003
if i don't like DWS, does that make me an anti-semite? even though it also means i also dislike the big money, heavily jewish constituency she represents?

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Nov 15, 2003

Lactose Is Wack posted:

it would probably be one of the first attacks leveled should you try and voice your opinion

i bet some people resent those kinds of attacks. i wonder if they vote.

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Nov 15, 2003

Groovelord Neato posted:

"independents" are just lying conservatives wanting to pretend they're above it all.

Well, I mean, that's literally true for pundits like Hannity and O'Reilly. Every time you accuse them of being republican shills they say :smug: I'm an independent :smug:

And that goes a long way to manipulating actual independents into leaning right, while at the same the only actual Independent in Congress (that is, a guy with an I in front of his name) is democratic socialist Bernie Sanders.

It's a ridiculous term with no true definition

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Nov 15, 2003
I just realized that Donald Trump may have more personal debt than anyone in the United States.

So here's the theory: Donald Trump got himself elected so he could fight for inflation to ease his personal debt burden.

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Nov 15, 2003

i want to flip cyan/green and red/magenta here.

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Nov 15, 2003

Lando at Cloud City, or Lando at Jabba's Palace?

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Nov 15, 2003

Fulchrum posted:

When would it compare to the Star Wars Holiday Special?

That was the entire Clinton campaign.

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Nov 15, 2003
Donald Trump is the Mule.

Oh gently caress i mean he's a bad jedi with mind tricks and stuff

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Nov 15, 2003
Are we really regressing to ancient times when merely saying a thing's name gives it power?

Like, "Donald Trump is bad" is the same as "Donald Trump is good" because I have said "Donald Trump" and thereby made him strong with word magic.

Or if I said, "The Infrastructure Plan is a scam" vs "The Infrastructure Plan will MAGA." I'm actually increasing support for it either way??

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Nov 15, 2003

Not a Step posted:

To reiterate: gently caress REPUBLICANS.

Hold on, friend, all you're doing is reinforcing people's existing desire to gently caress republicans.

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Nov 15, 2003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuBvxb2UUHo

Taxes are cool and good. gently caress, issue Infrastructure bonds and let everyone pay for it.

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Nov 15, 2003

Get voters to the MOSQUE, is that what you were going to say, Congressmen, or should I say, Congressmullah?

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Nov 15, 2003
hey ben, you're a blllrrrain surgeon... come do urban development!

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Nov 15, 2003

he's a made guy, keith

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Nov 15, 2003
Send your kids to Khan Academy.

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Nov 15, 2003

Civilized Fishbot posted:

Doesn't this imply that white Clinton supporters are more racist than Kasich or even Cruz supporters? Because presumably the black supporters virtually all give the non-racist answers.

I dunno. Do black respondents living in poor areas rank blacks as more violent? That would be a reasonable position.

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Nov 15, 2003

I'm confused is Assad to blame for the war because he said no to a pipeline?

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Nov 15, 2003

Venom Snake posted:

I think Assad is bad because he's killed like 400,000 of his own people. Just my hot take there.

The badness of Assad has as much to do with the cause of the Syrian Civil War as the badness of Saddam had with Operation Iraqi Freedom

Unless by "Bad" you mean "uncooperative with Washington"

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Nov 15, 2003

Yinlock posted:

considering people have literally gone to russia and seen the Professional Troll Lairs uhhh

yes, fine, but, you might remember that during the Cold War everything was blamed on the Russians. Then we blamed everything on Terrorism, but that isn't working out so now we have to go back to blaming Russia. With Trump in power that may change. The point is, there always has to be an Other to justify the Very Bad Things our nation has to do.

Openly embracing self interest makes you a fascist. Hiding it makes you a liberal.

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Nov 15, 2003

Aurubin posted:

That BAR site also has an editorial how Keith Ellison is an empty suit. Man, the left sucks. I'm selling out. Someone tell me how to become a lobbyist.

Just whip out your Harvard law degree and you're good to go.

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Nov 15, 2003

Thoguh posted:

But she didn't kill Bin Laden. Some navy seal did. And Obama gave the command. She was just around for it. Like I said, is there some info out there that indicates she was more than a passive observer?

Hillary was probably in the "drop a bomb on his house" camp anyway.

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Nov 15, 2003
Welp the banks have kicked foreclosure activity into overdrive. I just got an email asking for emergency volunteers in the city I used to live in.

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Nov 15, 2003

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

Which city? Anyone we can mobilize to assist the resistance (perhaps by eating a bank manger)?

Philadelphia you can volunteer by being a lawyer and defending the case. Many of these are FHA loans and the banks never follow HUD regulations because they are banks.

The great thing for you, the taxpayer, is that when the banks foreclose on homes after ignoring the regulations they agreed to follow in exchange for getting a Federally insured loan, you, the taxpayer, get to pay them for it! In addition to the bailout you already gave them!

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Nov 15, 2003

Instant Sunrise posted:

i mean, to be fair, Davis got screwed over by literal Enron, the dot com collapse loving up the state budget, and Darrel loving Issa (who later got pushed out of his own goddamn recall election)

and yeah schwarzenegger didn't do that bad of a job other than a special election in 2005 to try and gut the public employee unions that went down in flames, at which point he ran to the left to get re-elected and then spent his second term endorsing things that ended up killing the california GOP.

Davis was just another Democrat too cowardly to enact the necessary leftist solution to the problem of capitalism, i.e. calling the National Guard to take over just one power plant and ordering it not to shut down for bullshit reasons.

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Nov 15, 2003

Joementum posted:

Jeff Jarvis is a professor of media studies who is a "liberal" who supported Hillary, the Iraq war, and was one of the organizers for the GoFundMe to give the NC GOP money when they burned down their shack.

why does he want people to buy cereal :confused:

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Nov 15, 2003
But that means they advertised with Brightbart in the first place

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Nov 15, 2003
fair enough but that's why Ford gets marginalized in history books. he requires a mention for the assembly line and the Model T, but he was a major visionary who deserves way more recognition than Steve Jobs and poo poo for his impact on business but the nazi ties pretty much killed his legacy.

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Nov 15, 2003
Good god people buy oatmeal.

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Nov 15, 2003
if you even know who makes your favorite cereal, just... lol.

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Nov 15, 2003

quote:

The fact is that the American political culture today has reached an historic crossroads where the crude cosmetic liberalism of the deeply corrupt Democratic Party must either be swept away to clear the way for far more radical changes offered by Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein or else the proto-fascism of Trump will destroy any semblance of democracy left in this country.

Uh zizek's whole hope was that a trump victory would catalyze just that.

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Nov 15, 2003

logikv9 posted:

you might be salty at CNN but saying they're worse than FOX news is very :chloe:

Fox News doesn't hide what they are. Fair and Balanced news is delivered with a knowing smile.

CNN still wants you to treat them like a real news organization.

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Nov 15, 2003

Alter Ego posted:

:drat:

Can we please find a time machine and kidnap this man when he was 20 years younger?

He didn't reach Super Socialist level until few years ago tho.

No one's voting for Rabbi Manishevitz

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Nov 15, 2003

HannibalBarca posted:

Yeah, exactly. There are shades of grey in everything. Joe Blow who "hates lawyers" probably doesn't care if you make 40,000 a year doing indigent defense or an obscene amount of money doing corporate mergers. He just hates you.

full disclosure I am a lawyer

That's the legal profession's fault. Decades of being called the worst people of earth and the response is silence. It's my opinion that the legal profession should get together and hire a drat PR firm to improve their image. If people hate lawyers, they're not gonna vote for them. It's no coincidence that fewer lawyers are in congress now than ever before.

But the profession can't even fight legalzoom so whatever. Silicon Valley is gonna take over the whole business while the Baby Boomers in charge sleep through the remainder of their careers.

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Nov 15, 2003

Atrocious Joe posted:

Couldn't the Dems promise make work programs? Or even useful stuff like eco tourism developments, environmental reclamation, basic infrastructure.

It wouldn't pass but it's not literally impossible nor does it hurt the climate.

Reminder that the last Make Work program was the TSA, and that was under Dubya Bush.

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