radical meme posted:

My two cents is that the people saying the Democrats lost touch with too many middle class white males is probably correct. Also, peepaw Bernie was not the answer. Socialism does not sell in the U.S., never has and never will in our lifetimes.

Jonny 290 posted:

http://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/796482684629483520

isnt that literally exactly why they lost

Yinlock posted:

i mean that's true if all they wanted was Bernie Sanders and not anything he supported

and judging by how some fled to trump that might have been true in some cases

Yinlock posted:

that's why i'm always careful to say "some" and "a portion"

a majority of sanders supporters are really good people! there's just a super obnoxious vocal minority that is unfortunately out in full force at the moment

E: and i'm not arguing that sanders supporters won things for trump either, just that it's a bit odd to be placing 100% of the blame solely on hillary

Mrit posted:

Back in 2006, I was angry. Angry at the Republicans, angry at the weakness of the Dems. I was hard left, and wanted to destroy the current government.
Then later Obama happened. Yea! He was a good person. I started to calm down.
We got piddling reforms, and I supported the Dems and blamed Republicans for not getting more done.
And by the the 2016 came around, my personal life was more secure, therefore more of the same was a great idea, right? So I supported Hillary.

Never again. Burn the loving DNC to the ground. I want a socialist, and I want him to force his agenda on America, Stalin style. Letting Trump win is disgusting. Democratic hubris will destroy years of progress, and hurt millions.
gently caress weak willed centrists. Never again.

Mirthless posted:

If you voted for Trump you hate women, the disabled, and minorities, period, full stop, sorry

You also hate gays and the transgendered

Sorry! Don't vote for a literal white supremacist and rapist calling for active genocide next time! Your own self centered bullshit reasons for voting don't Trump the fact that Trump ran on the platform he did

Mirthless posted:

What's the point to miss?


WHAT loving NARRATIVE?

It's NOT A NARRATIVE TO POINT OUT THINGS SOMEBODY SAID AND DID

Mirthless posted:

Nobody is starving because of Obamacare and gently caress you if you think your retarded "economic anxiety" should come before being able to receive treatment for the actual anxiety disorder I have

Some people can only lead comfortable lives because of the healthcare bill that is now going away because people thought it was a good idea to elect the guy who wants to round mexicans up into internment camps

Don't cry to me because you get to live with the consequences of your lovely vote. gently caress you. You get to wear the same hood and sheet that the rest of the KKK wears for the next four years.

Mirthless posted:

I didn't say that?

Mirthless posted:

How do you change a culture of hate if it's verboten to call hate what it is when you see it?

Mirthless posted:

There was an alternative

RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:

FYI, I can say with nearly 100% certainty that this is happening right now because the DNC is practically begging the AFL-CIO to not abandon them going forward.

The AFL-CIO and all of the major labor unions in this country are strongly considering dropping their de-facto support of the DNC every election. We spent an absolutely insane amount of money this election alone on GOTV operations for D candidates nationwide... money we could have used to hire several thousand organizers and ran issue based/local referendum campaigns in all 50 states.

There's very much a mindset of "what, exactly, have we gotten the past ~30 years from the Democratic party? they take our support for granted."

A lot of people in the labor movement consider Obama not going to Wisconsin during the Walker stuff nearly as damaging to our cause as Reagan and the Air Traffic Controllers.

Mirthless posted:

Bernie really can't run at 79, that's loving nuts, but otherwise I am 100% on board with this

I am completely done with the neoliberal wing of the party and I regret ever buying into that poo poo

Mister Fister posted:

I think the first fight i ever got into was with Obdicut. I want to see him answer for his crimes.

Zythrst posted:

I'm gonna listen to this meanwhile here's an email I got.

sportsgenius86 posted:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/im-a-coastal-elite-from-the-midwest-the-real-bubble-is-rural-america#sthash.hQsGH2Zt.rws7PPMx.gbpl

mrmcd posted:

My woke as hell tech giant employer literally printed out paper signs that said "safe space" and taped them to a couple conference rooms so people could have a good cry I guess. Then the execs sent around an email congratulating everyone on our commitment to diversity in this difficult time.

I mean they spent the last 18 months being publicly "politically neutral". Probably would've been more useful to use some of our massive pile of resources and influence to oppose the most evil presidential candidate in a generation, but hey the cry rooms for LGBT and Muslims were nice too.

Lawman 0 posted:

so which city takes the crown for most "shaken but not stirred liberals" at this point.

etalian posted:

Also how they smugly look down on others and couldn't understand why workers would be upset over things like NAFTA/TPP.

The Kingfish posted:

It would be nice if the bad lady had to resign in even more disgrace.

Atrocious Joe posted:

Protest I dragged two of my friends to was lit and I signed up today

Telling everyone I know who still has hopes for the Dems to look into DSA, since it seems they want to be the US version of Momentum in the UK. IE, trying to seize control of the Dems/Labour for the left.

bump_fn posted:

what's the DSA exactly? is it a separate organization that's democratic party affiliated?

Sheng-ji Yang posted: