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Is Justin Jackson this draft's obvious trap pick or could he be ok?
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Mar 23, 2017 16:24
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People are mocking him to the Hornets which seems lazy but after Frank Kaminsky I have no room for criticism. As long as they end up with one of the non-Jackson guards or wings I'd be happy but I guess a high-floor guy is fine
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Mar 23, 2017 18:13
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MourningView posted:As I said earlier, your feeling on the UNC Jackson is going to depend on whether or not you buy him suddenly shooting 10% better from 3 being sustainable. The biggest reason he fell in the first place was that he never developed as a shooter the way people hoped he would out of high school. He is now but generally it's right to be suspicious of sudden dramatic improvement late in your college career when you're older than most of the people you're playing against Is he a better athlete than he looks from the clips I've seen? Granted most of those are showing off his shot but he looks average for a pro prospect
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Mar 23, 2017 19:37
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Hopefully Charlotte holds on to the 11th spot and doesn't get stuck with Lauri. It feels like there's a drop-off right after there.
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Apr 9, 2017 03:04
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Rick posted:Markkanen is maybe the most decisive player in the draft, but I stand by my opinion that he's gonna be one of the three best players in the draft. Hornets just don't need a big man. I'm not that picky, provided one of Tatum, Monk, Fox, Smith, Isaac or Ntilikina fall to them I'd be happy. Bridges and Lauri are the only guys in the range I'm iffy on.
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Apr 9, 2017 14:35
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Is Isaac the standard "big dude, long arms, who knows" guy? Watching clips he reminds me of Vonleh from a few years back Edit: I guess Vonleh was 50 pounds heavier so, uh nevermind
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Apr 11, 2017 21:39
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I think what reminded me the most of Vonleh is that they're both smooth athletes as opposed to explosive. It's impressive seeing a guy that tall look coordinated but I didn't really get the sense that he'll stand out against NBA bigs
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Apr 12, 2017 17:48
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That kind of fucks the Hornets unless someone falls in love with Collins, drat
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Apr 12, 2017 19:23
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Did Giles look cooked when he came back for the tournament?
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Apr 13, 2017 15:15
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MourningView posted:He looked cooked all year. I get the potential thing but it's really weird some people have him rising I had no idea he played all season. I remember seeing GILES IS BACK stuff in March but I guess that was just because he blocked a shot or something
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Apr 13, 2017 18:02
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Embiid's a blast, hopefully he sticks around. I saw PJ Dozier just hired an agent, he might have had a chance to sneak into the first round in 2016 but things are too stacked this year. His stock's probably never going to be higher, though
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Apr 19, 2017 20:00
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There's probably some gamesmanship going on too, why tip your hand if you might end up at no. 2
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Apr 30, 2017 06:29
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Via Chad Ford's latest Big Board:quote:Collins continues to quietly move his way up boards as more and more scouts watch video and come away impressed. I've actually yet to find a scout who doesn't think he's a top-10 pick. His limited role at Gonzaga (combined with a lack of hype coming into the draft) does appear to keep his stock a little lower. Collins going in the top 10 would be a godsend for Charlotte, assuming it's not Markkanen he pushed out
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May 10, 2017 05:03
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Rick posted:Collins is the only other big besides Markkannen who isn't a project, so top 10 isn't that bad. But, Collins isn't better than Poeltl was last year, though, so that should kind of commentate what kind of draft this is for bigs. Collins is a player I wouldn't mind in the abstract but A) I don't know if you can justify spending a top 10 pick on a (non-God tier) big that doesn't shoot threes these days and B) I couldn't root for a team that had him, Cody Zeller, Frank Kaminsky and Miles Plumlee under contract
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May 10, 2017 19:47
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Ford's also saying Giles might sneak into the 5-10 range if he's cleared by doctors, which sounds crazy. I assume that'd push out Markkanen or Isaac which would be cool
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May 13, 2017 15:36
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I like the Marvin Williams comp for Isaac, but it's kind of uninspiring for a top-10 guy. I guess you'd be paying for upside in case he gets much better off the dribble
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May 15, 2017 16:59
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Lockback posted:"Longer Harrison Barnes" is a better "I hope" I think, though Marvin Williams would still be a pretty good pickup with a #6. Isaac is becoming my Timberwolves hopeful, as I think he could add much needed defense at the 3 and play some 4 alongside KAT or Dieng. All I'm going off is highlight YouTubes and DX stuff but he seems way more like a modern PF to me
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May 15, 2017 17:18
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Hornets get No. 1, take Frank Mason III
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May 15, 2017 22:11
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Ty1990 posted:The more I read about Frank the more I think of Patrick Beverly. I'm thinking a less athletic young Shaun Livingston with a jumper
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May 16, 2017 17:53
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WhyteRyce posted:LaVar and Vivek are a match made in heaven, imagine all the disruption they could bring to the business of basketball Lonzo can be the cherry-picker and average 50 a game
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May 16, 2017 23:38
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This is the worst of all possible worlds
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May 17, 2017 01:59
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WhyteRyce posted:#5 probably means Kings are getting Fox unless Vlade thinks he can be coy and take Tatum and hope Smith or Frank are there at #10 I'm happy it broke out this way for the Kings since it feels more likely Frank is still there at 11
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May 17, 2017 02:39
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Rick posted:For a second I thought you were talking about Frank Mason at 10, that's what Vivek has done to the Kings, bring back the Maloofs. The French dude's last name looks like the phonetic spelling of insect noises so Frank is easier
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May 17, 2017 02:43
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Would Donovan Mitchell be too much of a reach at 11? Size isn't great but the 6'10" wingspan makes up for that a it
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May 17, 2017 04:29
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If the Hornets get Fox I'll marry you Rick
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May 19, 2017 07:54
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Mo Bamba committed to Texas. I'm surprised Texas hasn't done better in the one-and-done era. I'd love to spend a year in Austin loving around and eating migas
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May 19, 2017 17:25
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Starting to get a little hopeful that Issac might slide. Magic need a scorer, Mavericks already have a SF/PF hybrid in Barnes and a hole at PG, Kings have Marquese Chriss. The Knicks are a question mark, he'd be an interesting fit next to Kristaps but they could really go any direction. Minnesota's his best fit, right?
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May 23, 2017 15:29
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Metapod posted:They do not Duh, confused my project big men. Meant Skal Labissiere, who's obviously a little more replaceable.
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May 23, 2017 15:35
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Paul Zuvella posted:Skal was striaght up better than Chris last year. It's still an easier sell to double up on a 28th pick vs. a top-10 guy, though
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May 23, 2017 16:15
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ButtWolf posted:I think Frank will be avail at 10. Probably. Do you risk it though? Most of the latest mock drafts have Frank locked in at 8 or 9 and Lauri slipping, though DX has him at 11.
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May 23, 2017 18:16
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euphronius posted:Is ball still going 2 in most? Yeah. ESPN, DX, SI, CBS, SBNation, The Ringer. I think most people have a hard time imagining Magic passing on him.
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May 23, 2017 18:20
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EvanTH posted:Who's the best drafters last 5-10 years? Thunders? Spurs? Bucks? Warriors by far
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May 26, 2017 16:45
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I dunno, nailing top five picks (+Ibaka) is significantly less impressive to me than what the Warriors did. Plus Landry, Davis and Bledsoe are all picks they made on behalf of other teams as part of draft-night trades. Has anyone seen any good scouting on Nkilitina somewhere other than DX?
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May 26, 2017 17:27
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Uh I think you'll find that MKG and Cody Zeller are both good actually, and Frank Kaminsky has more win shares than Justise Winslow Charlotte's definitely bottom five but the Kings post-Cousins and Orlando are up there
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May 26, 2017 21:40
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The Hornets' culture has been a positive under Clifford, but apparently when it comes to the draft there's a lot of (terrible) voices in the room
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May 26, 2017 21:48
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WhyteRyce posted:Og is #10 in that Ringer draft primer too. Either of those to are probably our guys at #10....or Justin Jackson Justin Jackson seems like the obvious gag gift around that spot so I'd be happy if he wasn't there to tempt Charlotte. I could see him being a Rodney Hood type though
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May 28, 2017 01:29
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I mean I'd be thrilled if Smith was there at 11
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May 31, 2017 20:00
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Dejan Bimble posted:He's a loving fumble fingers and a foul machine. It's going to take ages for him to move from backup energy big to anything else, if he ever does. He's a Biyombo esque dude, it took Bismack 7 years to learn how to catch a ball and then he forgot how after one season. At least Ike can catch Alley oops and has big hands. That's his only offensive skill. Unless you think he'll go before Lauri, Zach Collins feels like a slam-dunk to at least be a boring but useful low-usage big that can defend and rebound
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Jun 1, 2017 14:44
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tanglewood1420 posted:Which one of Zach Collins, TJ Leaf and Tyler Lydon are Charlotte going to draft at 11? I'd actually be pretty happy with Collins, maybe even over Lauri, but if they draft a white dude way too early it's definitely going to be Kennard A big man reach obviously doesn't make much sense because they have so much invested in Miles Plumlee
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Jun 1, 2017 14:59
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I'd be fine with taking Lauri and trying to ship Frank off for a replacement-level wing but the ghost of that Boston deal means that they'll probably never let go
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Jun 1, 2017 16:45
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