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I had a dream that the lottery went SAC->BRK->NOP->PHX->LAL And it was a perfect outcome in my mind.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Is that ascending or descending order because I have some bad news for you if it's ascending. Ascending, and what exactly is your bad news? If it's that the Kings, Lakers and Nets don't own those picks then yeah that's the entire point of my post.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:40
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Ascending. The numbers get higher. 2 is higher than 1, 3 is higher than 2. That's how numbers ascend.
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Apr 5, 2017 19:19
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Best case scenario for the 76ers is what? Fultz and Monk? They seem like pretty typical guards you'd want around a guy like Simmons.
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Apr 13, 2017 14:47
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euphronius posted:I'd take fultz and lakers unprotected next year as best case. Next year is all bigs, something they definitely don't need.
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Apr 13, 2017 14:55
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euphronius posted:Porter Jr would fit in fine . Now that I'm think of it Fultz + lakers next year pick is actually probably the best case. Not because of who they can draft, but if Fultz + Simmons + Embiid works out the lakers pick is incredibly tradable next year.
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Apr 13, 2017 15:11
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euphronius posted:I think if the Sixers even get like 1-4 or 2-4 this year they will trade the lower pick for a veteran. I just think it's easier to trade next years pick than this years because: a) Simmons is an unknown b) Embiid's health is an unknown On top of that if you have a top pick than Ball/Fultz need to work into the scheme too.
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Apr 13, 2017 16:07
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paternity suitor posted:The Sixers were able to work in three rookies this year, plus expand roles for second year players like McConnell and Holmes, and work in Justin Anderson at the end. I don't think it will be a problem to work in three rookies next year. I mean, one of those rookies played 30 games on a minutes restriction. Dario was completely poo poo until Embiid went down and he got to expand his role. And above all, this sixers season was poo poo.
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Apr 19, 2017 13:16
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SamuraiFoochs posted:How is that possible? there are conflicting reports on whether or not her forgot or simply chose not to.
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Apr 27, 2017 19:36
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Declan MacManus posted:I wouldn't hate the Celtics grabbing Ball just because he has a better chance of developing successfully off the ball next to Isaiah Thomas Creating with the ball is like, Lonzo Ball's best skill though?
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May 2, 2017 15:04
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You best believe that if the Celtics get steam rolled by the Cavs and ITs defense sucks (it will) you best believe the Celtics are not going to max out a 5'7" point guard who is going to be 30.
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May 4, 2017 15:57
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I mean, your idea isn't bad! A core of George, Horford, and Fultz could really do some damage. Especially with how bad the East is. I mean, theoretically by the time Fultz is good enough to actually do poo poo then Horford will be over the hill. But also by that time Lebron will be old too so who knows.
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May 4, 2017 17:50
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Lockback posted:Ah yes, SAS's no exception single-drop rule. Yeah Robin Lopez is goofy and fun so he counts as white. Seriously what the gently caress is this post lmao
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May 11, 2017 12:54
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if you sweat that much why would you even own a white shirt
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May 11, 2017 17:31
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There is a 6'8" dude with a 7'6" wingspan, gently caress
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May 11, 2017 19:58
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NickRoweFillea posted:How far is Giles falling? He has a great toolset but his injuries are the kiss of death It takes one team to believe he can stay healthy. If a team feels that way and are drafting 12 or so and onward then they probably should take him. I for one think it would be a wasted pick, as there is almost no chance he stays healthy.
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May 15, 2017 03:26
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I cannot remember being this excited for a goddamn draft lottery
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May 16, 2017 15:11
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Redgrendel2001 posted:There is literally a 0% chance that he could go there Maybe that's the entire reason Fultz went.
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May 16, 2017 16:09
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The Glumslinger posted:I'm half convinced the Lakers are gonna end up with the #4 pick as karma for firing Jim Black They literally cannot end up with the #4 pick.
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May 16, 2017 17:05
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My Dream Lottery order is Sacramento #1 -> Pelicans #2 -> Pheonix #3. Maximum chaos.
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May 16, 2017 18:06
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Ball to me has a pretty high floor. He handles the ball too well and shoots too well for him to be a complete bust. I just don't buy into his potential ceiling. At the end of the day, a long althreltic guy who can shoot open threes is extremely useful in today's NBA
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May 16, 2017 20:00
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If I am the 76ers and I am 100% convinced that Ben Simmons can handle the bulk of creating on the offensive end of the ball, then Lonzo is an interesting idea. He is a long PG who can shoot open shots and can run in transition both with and without the ball. It's likely his ideal sitation.
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May 16, 2017 21:38
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WhyteRyce posted:What about Monk? Not saying he's the same level of prospect, but a lot of Monk's flaws or issues can be mitigated if you have a 6'10" dude playing point for you Oh I totally agree with you. If I'm the 76ers I'm basically hoping for some combination of Fultz/Monk/Jackson. I just think Ball would do good next to a wing/big who can handle the ball. Milwalkee would also be a good place for him.
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May 16, 2017 21:43
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Popping in tto say Wiggins looked fresh to death
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May 17, 2017 01:48
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Lonzo is gonna be a laker and isiah Thomas is gonna get traded
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May 17, 2017 01:57
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Nik rocks! euphronius posted:I take Monk at #3. Jackson is actually the right choice imo
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May 17, 2017 02:01
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euphronius posted:Can Jackson shoot nba 3s yo. Jackson has the tools and frame to be both an effective scorer and defender at the NBA level. He is big and quick. I don't really see a better option for the team at 3. Monk basically will never be an effective defender in the NBA and Fox is a walking bust destined to be drafted by the kings.
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May 17, 2017 15:02
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euphronius posted:If you think Jackson can shoot threes soon take him at 3 i agree. Yeah, I think he will be able to shoot open 3s fine. He's not some elite perimeter threat. Probably like a .350-.360 guy. e: When did Paul Pierce learn how to use emoji? Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 15:30 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 15:28
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euphronius posted:That would be good enough combined with the rest of the total package as you mention. Monk is extremely good at what he does, I just think he is far too limited physically to make it in the NBA as a defender. I was a lot higher on him until I realized his winspan is 6'3". Short with T-rex arms is a dangerous combination. It just makes sense to me to take the guy who can eventually do a lot of things well.
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May 17, 2017 15:33
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Salvor_Hardin posted:gently caress it, stick him on LeBron tonight. *Lebron scores 50 points and dunks so hard that the lottery undoes itself and the Celtics pick last*
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May 17, 2017 18:49
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Timby posted:I'm just starting to get back into basketball again, so let me see if I have this straight: Lonzo Ball is a good to very good player, but his father is obsessed with making billions of dollars off of him and promoting him as an unholy basketball monster made from the seed of Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson, and will throw an Archie Manning-esque tantrum if the Lakers don't draft him. He also is a misogynist and his son is in no way a sure thing to succeed in the NBA. Also he thinks that he can beat Jordan one on one.
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May 17, 2017 20:47
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euphronius posted:It's him and doncic It should be noted that, as far as I am aware, Donic is the clear frontrunner in most peoples eyes. e: jfc there is a dude who is 19, 7 foot, with a 7'9" wingspan.
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May 18, 2017 14:08
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I'm very curious why you don't think that Lonzo Ball won't be able to shoot open jumpers in the NBA. Do you think that his busted rear end shot will just magically stop working or something? Also Fox is almost guaranteed to bust in my eyes so I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. He's a tiny dude who can't shoot and weighs 170lbs. There is no way he is going to be able to functionally get to the rim in the nba. Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 18, 2017 |
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May 18, 2017 20:29
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Redgrendel2001 posted:I thinks it's more an issue of getting the space needed to get that shot off. Of course we're in the Curry era of 3s where 27 ft shots are de rigeur so who knows. Oh obviously, but in an NBA system centered around getting shooters open he can probably be effective. He's going to have to learn to play off the ball and learn how to drive to the left if he wants to be a star, though. DeimosRising posted:Ball dominant point guards don't get a lot of assisted (and therefore not a lot of open) three pointers. He can hit in transition and against a broken D, but that's going to be a very small proportion of shots at the NBA level. Maybe it's because I don't see him being a long term point guard in the league. His a 6'6" dude with a slow first step who can only drive in one direction. Sure he can run an offense in a pinch but I imagine he is going to spend a lot of his time at the wing in the NBA.
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May 18, 2017 20:38
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mikeraskol posted:I'm probably thinking about this the wrong way, so someone please set me straight. But if that's what you see his role as, how is he justified as the second pick? The whole reason he's up there is his gifted passing ability. If his other limitations force you to take the ball out of his hands for the most part, doesn't that minimize his one truly exceptional skill? If that's that the case, how is he the second pick? Oh, I don't really think he is worth the 2nd pick, but I think he is an infinity better prospect than Fox. Ball has a pretty high floor, imo. What the 'right' move for the Lakers is not really clear. I'm inclined to say that it is Jackson, but they odds of them being able to successfully develop Jackson and Ingrahm at the same time are pretty low. Given the position that the lakers are in, trading down or trading the pick for someone may be a much better use of their time. e: Or take Ball and hope that he can play SG.
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May 18, 2017 21:05
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Rick posted:Also, all the things you've said doesn't go with Ball having a high floor. You described a player with a low floor. No? I think he had a high floor, low ceiling. As in he I think he is likely to be an actual nba player but the odds of him being a st are catastrophically low. He does too many things well at his size to not stick around the league for a while l.
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May 19, 2017 05:24
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Rick posted:
When like 60% of people bust out of the league extremely quick in these drafts, a floor of "career NBAer" is pretty drat high imo. But that's pulling strings. I'd say that if you're a team like the 76ers or Suns who just straight up need talent then he will look pretty enticing. But who are we kidding, Magic is bad at his job and is taking him #2.
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May 19, 2017 15:33
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IcePhoenix posted:Lonzo tanking down the draft would be hilarious as long as the cameras keep cutting to LaVar I don't see how he would get past the Kings.
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May 19, 2017 15:36
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It could be worse; drake could be on that list.
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morestuff posted:Duh, confused my project big men. Meant Skal Labissiere, who's obviously a little more replaceable. Skal was striaght up better than Chris last year.
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