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zimbomonkey posted:Cam Robinson has the dreaded "character issues" right? Because the Panthers neeeeeed an LT but I feel like I remember him having some legal trouble No, he's probably fine. Charges were dropped in his arrest, which happened in Louisiana, so it sure wasn't due to a favorable prosecutor.
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Hackenberg is the opposite of the intangibles guys. He's all tangibles. It's his passes that are intangible.
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mastershakeman posted:i'll shoot every single person in chicago if the bears draft fournette Would anyone even notice a difference?
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FizFashizzle posted:I thought he was an ankle. It is.
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Raku posted:Fournette has never been the best RB in his conference He's going to get drafted higher than Derrick Henry did and the team that drafts him will actually play him, unlike Derrick Henry.
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Metapod posted:henry does get played and he owns a lot He has like 400 yards on 90 carries, matching the staggering production of, uh, Jaquizz Rogers I guess.
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Fournette won the Louisiana 4A 100m and 200m titles in his senior year of high school. He's pretty fast for a 225 pound guy. He picked up a high ankle sprain before the season started and it never healed fully. He was fatter and slower and didn't practice that much this year so it's hard to read too much into any of it. Last year against Florida he had 180 yards on 31 carries, and 2 TDs.
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Metapod posted:4.5 yards per a carry is pretty good Henry is 13th in the YPC list. Guys around him: Jaquizz Rodgers at 15; Matt Jones at 9. Bills Powell way up at 1; Mark Ingram at 3. And those are just the guys that have similarly limited number of carries, whether due to injury or just not being the premiere back on their team. It ain't bad, but it's not exactly lighting the world on fire either.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:To be fair he lost to NC State in the literal middle of goddamn hurricane Matthew. The whole thing was a spectacularly entertaining shitshow. It really should've been called on count of weather. I don't like Kiser but that game shouldn't count when looking at his stats. He's talking about Trubisky.
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corn on the cop posted:Beckham wasn't ranked highly because Zach Mettenberger can't throw a football. His stock exploded after scouts really dug into his tape. I mean, LSU had two 1000 yard receivers that year in a run focused offense. Beckham wasn't exactly a hidden gem, he and Landry were both very productive.
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Odell was pretty much always rated higher than Landry because he has elite speed. I don't think any mock anywhere had Landry in the first round whereas most all of them had Odell there after the 2013 season. Landry was a lot like Nuk Hopkins, a sure handed possession guy who was seen as a good compliment to the more dynamic receivers they played with.
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corn on the cop posted:Sammy Watkins has looked good whenever he's on the field. Everyone has just forgotten about him (because Buffalo) but his first two years were still really good. Also because he's been hurt or hobbled since he came into the league and consequently has been much less productive than other guys in the same draft class.
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Jan 19, 2017 18:46
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His natural position is being overrated based on the fact that he played offense, defense, and special teams, none of them exceptionally.
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Jan 20, 2017 18:30
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zimbomonkey posted:I'm so conflicted about fournette. It would be nice to have a generational running back if that's what he turns out to be, BUUUUUT there are so many other needs and he's injured all the time. Fournette had a high ankle sprain this year that he kept trying to play through and re-injuring, but he didn't have any injury issues his first two years.
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Jan 27, 2017 18:20
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Chichevache posted:In college. Running behind the Stanford line. Their line was not that great this year and he had a higher YPC than 2015 (when he had 2000 rushing yards and another 650 receiving). He's a really good player, full stop. Doesn't mean I'd take him 8th, but he's worth a fairly high pick I'd say.
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Feb 7, 2017 22:48
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Grittybeard posted:Barring some medical thing with his ankle that's probably going to happen anyway with Fournette. Yea, assuming he runs wells at the combine he's a much better option to go early in the first.
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Metapod posted:i'm not down on fournette at all i just think cook is better for today's game where hb need to be able to pass protect and catch out of the backfield to be a true 3 down back Fournette does both of those things to at least the extent that Cook does. Neither had a ton of catches or receiving yards. YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Chichevache posted:Fant looked like our second best lineman all year long. He might, but as soon as he does he's going to leave for another team because he Seahawks don't believe in paying offensive linemen.
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I think he might be able to develop into something eventually.
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Kalli posted:I'm just saying, I know next to nothing about college football but I watched one video of his highlights and know he's got little beyond skin pigment in common with Danny Woodhead. Uh, he said BIGGER version. Sounds like he's got this one figured out.
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Chilichimp posted:QB in the first. This one's toast. He is white bread as hell, it's true.
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Feb 16, 2017 22:03
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The big issue with Fournette's weight is that it may indicate that his ankle has taken longer than expected to heal and he hasn't been able to train sufficiently for the combine. His playing weight in 2015 was 225. Last year he was ten to fifteen pounds heavier due to the injury.
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Bigass Moth posted:I went back and re-watched some of Cody Kessler's highlights. Lots more dinking and dunking, WRs running comebacks, and HB dumpoffs than I remember. He has the "it" factor in that he can lead an offense well but I don't know if the physical ability is going to be there to be the guy. None. There's almost no way the team doesn't improve from last year no matter what, so they should focus on shoring up the rest of the team and try for a QB next year when the class isn't so underwhelming.
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Mar 13, 2017 16:57
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Bigass Moth posted:We can't keep waiting for next year forever though, and are in a good spot to get one of the top 3 QBs this year. You can't afford to draft a bad QB in the first and end up stuck trying to make him work on an already talent poor team for a few years before giving up. This class really is very poor for QBs.
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fsif posted:Wait, TJ Watt is a real thing? We're going to have two initialed Watts in the NFL? He is a real person that will really get to play in the NFL, but he will be middling at best.
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Mar 14, 2017 23:45
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Ehud posted:I can bench more than Christian mccaffrey and that means I am a better prospect Yea, but what's your wonderlic?
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Grittybeard posted:Cook's got some history doesn't he? I know the girl outside the bar thing where he 'hit her' turned out to be nothing but didn't he have some other stuff before that? There was that, he was arrested and charged with a misdemeanor for causing property damage with a broken gun, and was cited for cruelty to animals for having some puppies tied up outside too restrictively. So nothing very egregious, but in comparison with the squeaky clean Stanford kid I guess they qualify as character issues?
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ragle posted:McCaffrey and Fournette sat out lovely bowls because they're RBs (devalued in draft, and short careers) with lots of game tape already. They were also both injured on and off throughout the year, so it's not like two perfectly healthy dudes who decided to sit on the bench and watch. That extra month of time to get healthy is a big deal.
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euphronius posted:Fournette exposed himself to debilitating injury for no reason. No idea why he played this year. If he was that mercenary about his future he'd have gone to Alabama and not LSU. He wanted to play in purple and gold.
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Ehud posted:I will be happy if we draft some combination of LB/DE/CB in the first two rounds. I hear Peppers if very versatile. Maybe you can trade your first and second round picks to move up and take him and have him play all three.
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I wanted the Saints to take Dak in the second or third. He was obviously very good because he got god damned Mississippi State to a number 1 ranking.
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Ehud posted:with the first pick in the 2017 NFL draft the browns select She's got better mechanics than Tebow, and he was a first rounder.
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