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Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I'm heading to a protest this afternoon. Protests are a good thing and people who talk poo poo about people protesting racism/fascism are probably bad people.

A big high-five and thanks to everyone who decides to get in the streets or organize any other activities against racism and Trump.

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Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Pajser posted:

are you seriously this naive?

what is exactly is your goal here with organizing protests? What's the result here?
Impeachment? Making him resign?
until then what? just throwing people into a meatgrinder to prove a point everyone already gets?

there is righteous anger, of course. I agree completely with you. but if you refuse to play the game by the rules you are just going to get manipulated.

people shouldn't protest says the person who (supposedly)enjoys weekends, a minimum wage, civil rights, women voting, the 40 hour work week and the list goes on and on and on.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Pajser posted:

yeah and voting sucks man, that's why nobody does it any more.
participating in political parties and choosing good candidates with a good record of making results is just too loving boring.

its better to riot and act like a trumpian baby, because its the only thing you can do
and its a good way to lose all those things you posted, not just for myself, but for everyone.

Actually, you're right, it probably is better to riot than protest, unfortunately most of the unhappy democrats aren't at that point yet. When they do start losing their civil liberties maybe they'll warm up to the idea. The best way you can tell a protest is working, is when people start talking about it.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

BLM did have a detailed list of demands. Stop perpetuating lying bullshit from the white media. It just cost us an election and may cost us our lives.

Also a lot of the other groups involved in these protests, Socialist Alternative, The IWW, and other groups do have agendas and platforms and demands and have a history of following through with threats and also getting what they want.

The best recent example is the $15 minimum wage in Seattle. The path to victory so to speak was protests --> gather signatures for ballot measure --> more protests --> city passed a plan to get to $15 an hour because they were afraid of it going to the ballot

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Nov 11, 2016

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Pajser posted:

and thats why every minimum wage worker should be ready to poo poo all over this hard fought right at a moments notice as soon as they see an election result they dont like.

gently caress you dude

poo poo all over it by doing what was done to get it in the first place. That is making GBS threads all over it because trump might get mad at protesters and abolish the minimum wage so we should all just sit in our homes and do nothing while Trump shits all over minorities. Maybe if we're really, really quiet he will forget he promised to deport millions of Muslims who are also US citizens.

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Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Pajser posted:

as opposed to just giving him an excuse to do that even harder and with more support.

it's just four years, man. you have been through so much worse.

laugh if you think its just four years.

Someone much smarter than me once said something like "if you aren't willing to stand up for your rights and the rights of others, then you probably don't deserve them" and you're a pretty shining example of that.

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