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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Things start with peaceful protests. It's a sign that a large number of people are unhappy and don't feel like they're being listened to. If their voices are going unheard they raise them; protests are shouting. If you start listening protests die down. If you attack protesters they shut up briefly but always come back before long.

A peaceful protest is also a threat of violence. Disenfranchised people that the system is not listening to or benefiting enough are only going to become louder and more unruly. A few broken windows or a smashed up store front are the political equivalent of grabbing somebody by the collar, spinning them around, and yelling in their face.

We all know that rioting is a bad thing. Few people actually want rioting, violent civil unrest, uprisings, or civil war. However, if you ignore peaceful protests and peaceful resistance long enough that sort of thing becomes guaranteed.

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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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SlothSpot posted:

Or maybe it shows that there's incredible fear mongering going on and people are so petulant that they immediately protest a democratically elected President. Do you not understand how that kind of protesting drives people away and doesn't help your cause? At least wait until the guy does something, anything. The reaction to Trump's victory has been absolutely pathetic.

He wasn't democratically elected. He literally came in second in the popular vote. He is absolutely not what a majority of Americans wanted.

He promised to ban an entire religion, deport an entire race, and carpet bomb the middle east. He promised to end gay rights, brutalize protesters, and destroy Obamacare.

Despite his message of "bring the jobs back" he's a supporter of trickle-down economics which has been proven to not create jobs repeatedly over the past several decades.

We know what he and the party he ran for stand for. America is loudly screaming "we don't want this. This is not the America we believe in."

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Ego-bot posted:

Hey, completely random question: What's the process in the US government for officially declaring a group a terrorist organization?

There's a protest planned in Toronto on November 19.

There isn't one beyond "we decided these people are terrorists" far as I know.

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Owlofcreamcheese posted:

As soon as every protestor is wearing a suit it will just change to "heh, some protest, looks like the only people that showed up are suit wearing millennials on their daddy's dime." There isn't really any combination of clothes that doesn't give people a wish to discount things a way to discount them.

The single most terrifying thing to an administration is a diverse protest. If a protest is all one demographic you can write it off as "pfft, uppity (whatever they are) just don't realize how good they have it." If you can get enough groups on your side then you can squish opposition pretty easily.

But when you suddenly have a poor black guy standing shoulder to shoulder with an upper middle class white professional guy and they're shouting the same message it's time to pay the gently caress attention because things are very, very bad. The thing to take from this particular election, and the last 8 years, is that Americans overall are just sick and god damned tired of how things are going. Trump tapped into that to get himself elected but the problem there is that if he doesn't change anything, or makes things worse, now he's suddenly part of the establishment that he swore to take down.

Aside from that the abhorrent things that racists have been doing over the course of the last year (hate crimes are way, way up) were inspired by his rhetoric. The massive protests cropping up are basically people screaming loudly "we aren't putting up with this poo poo." I really think this is part of why Trump and Friends are toning down some of the promises and platform. Not only is Trump the least popular president elect ever Congress has single-digit approval ratings. Washington just plain can't keep doing what they're doing. Now the Republicans can't even blame Democrats for everything because they're in charge.

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