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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Just imagine how effective our fire protection services would be if we went back to those free market models.

The way things are heading in the west, you might get to find out!

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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

A big problem with people's perception of unions is that they believe life is already fair, that the system pays people what they deserve, the whole american just-world fallacy. They basically so utterly take for granted the labour rights people literally had to die for that they can't imagine things any other way.

It's like when people say we should stop vaccinations because no one gets sick from those illnesses anymore like they used to back in the day. They don't get that labour rights are an ongoing thing that have to be fought for a defended every single day because they are under constant attack.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

ate all the Oreos posted:

Yeah, that's why I think the "lovely boss" angle is pretty good - even if you're sure you're a good person who will prove how great you are through hard work and merit or w/e, you still probably have had an experience with a lovely boss that can demonstrate how even you can use the help of a union.

A lot of modern bosses are really good at doing horribly lovely things while making workers doubt them selves. They basically take notes from abusers and use very similar tactics to always leave the worker feeling like maybe it was their fault, maybe they just needed to perform better, maybe that unpaid overtime is needed to make up for their past poor performance, maybe they really didn't deserve those extra promised hours and so on.

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