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Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

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That's hosed up. It looks like a state politician though. Is there any practical way a person from the other side of the us can help?

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Ruzihm
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I was half asleep last night thinking about how the media is owned by 6 corporations & how neat it would be if there were some channels that were certified non-corporate. Like, a WSDE/coop media company could opt in to have their finances investigated for connections to big/corporate money & if they pass, they can advertise that they are a "people's broadcasting company" or something & it's like those "certified fair trade" stickers you see on things.

I hope the rest of you also had sweet leftist dreams last night :angel:

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Prester Jane posted:

One clever member noted that all of these high level Scientologists were easily triggered into semi-hypnotic states by inserting bits of random text associated with the programming they had been subjected too into regular posts. Although this made the forums a bit frustrating to read for a bit (because of the random insertion of Scientologist gobbledygook into sentences) it also did cause the Scientologists some real hell. Their top level operatives were snapping in and out of trance whenever they tried to read the Enturb forums, and were basically unable to function as spies as a result.

:popeye: Can you link a source for this? This is fascinating & I would like to read more about this.

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N. Senada posted:

I wouldn't think so. I think you'd have to be more evocative with language like "Cares about all Americans - the working and those who want to work." The implication is that the other side doesn't care about all Americans, which they don't.

I like this a lot, especially your inclusion of "those who want to work".

I think a lot of conservative types arrive there because they view the left as supporting a welfare state, when we are actually very interested in everyone doing something productive. I wonder if that kind of language might help break that false association.

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Veyrall posted:

Those fucks are taking december off. Well, okay then. Time to find out when the next town hall is meeting.

What if you sent an email to the other members you could find and say "want to have a meeting, anyway?". IDK if you want a leadership position but being more eager to lead than the current leadership might help you with that~

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Oracle posted:

The next town hall is meeting when you call it, motherfucker. Call it for this weekend, offer punch and pie, and broadcast it everywhere you can. CC the demoralized so they can decide whether or not to show up. If they bitch about you coopting their organization, tell them to show up if they want to stop you.

Print out an agenda and be ready to vote on poo poo like what to work on first, who'll be doing what, who's in charge of what, etc. Bring friends. Have copies of contact information of local, state and federal representatives ready to go both paper and electronic (email) forms to organize call ins. Make a list of all positions at all levels in your town/city/county/district/state that have people running unopposed or have noone running at all (DO NOT FORGET TO LOOK FOR SPECIAL ELECTIONS. PEOPLE STEP DOWN MID-TERM ALL THE drat TIME AT LOWER LEVELS. THESE POSITIONS CAN BE WON WITH AS FEW AS A HUNDRED VOTES) Encourage people to run for public office. If people ask what they can do to help, HAVE A LIST OF THINGS READY TO GO. GET CONTACT INFORMATION FROM ALL PARTICIPANTS. Have a site people can go to to sign up for things (Facebook is fine).

Free websites exist for organizing things and making mailing lists. SignupGenius.com, groupvine.org, volunteerspot.org there are tons just google them. Learn how to use them, teach other people how to use them. Never rely on just one person who's really good at X to just do X, because I guarantee you that one person will move/die/get transferred to a new job and suddenly be unable to help and you will be stuck. CROSSTRAIN. Sell various positions as ways to get valuable experience that looks good on resumes. Everyone always wants experience. Don't forget to ask WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR VOTERS not just what voters can do for you. Arrange to volunteer at soup kitchens or donate blood as a group. This builds cohesion, makes you feel like you're accomplishing something, and puts your name out in a positive way in the community. Find needs and fill them and make drat SURE people know who's got their backs. Get to know your local reps by name. Encourage them to reach out to their constituents. If they don't, do it.

This is great advice. Basically, we need a left version of the tea party.

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I'm thinking about going to the Inauguration on the 20th to protest, and bringing some socialist literature to hand out to other protesters who seem like they might be interested.

I don't intend on mindlessly handing these out to everyone I see--I would start conversations and try to gauge if the material would resonate with them. I have no idea what I would be handing out. Probably some kind of intro to socialism material, but cheaper than Jacobin's ABCs of Socialism.

Good idea? Bad idea? If a good idea, what kind of material would people recommend?

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yellowyams posted:

I'm curious to hear from people who have attended meetings DSA or otherwise, what sort of tools are they suggesting? What other organizations are they promoting? Anything besides the usual protests and marches and meetups worth mentioning?

From the marxist thread in CSPAM

jarofpiss posted:

v good dsa meeting tonight. had like 40 people and a whole bunch of first timers. had an environmental action speaker asking for civil disobedience signups to train for arrests and stuff. had an infosec speaker that walked everyone through tor and internet/phone security stuff for activists. had a call to action for a leftist coalition action on the 20th. very militant themed. only had two walkouts lol.

jarofpiss posted:

this is Houston and I think liberals get lost sometimes and show up. we were about 10 chairs short so had a number of people standing and they left when the speaker started talking about public, private, secret, communication and if you're doing anything illegal do it only face to face with no phones around.

they were talking about cops and stuff working with corps on social media info and how stingray surveillance works so I think it made a couple liberals nervous. I thought that it was good because it means it's filtering out soft social dems that don't want to work

Ruzihm
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Is anyone else heading down for protests in DC on Friday? DSA is doing a meetup down there.

Ruzihm
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Inauguration was pretty rad. Saw where some anarchists smashed up stuff. Got a whiff of some tear gas. Fun stuff.

Lot of people really dug my sign: "One who seeks to arouse prejudice among working people is not their friend -Eugene Debs" It's a slightly altered quote, but it good.

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This was the most exciting part of my day at DC https://www.facebook.com/bernlennials/videos/1157530141012568/ I manage to get in frame at -0:11 :coal:

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RiotGearEpsilon posted:

I donated and spread the word. Here's hoping the guy who pulled the trigger was a skittish idiot rather than a fash.

Same. Solidarity!

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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

If you're in California check out https://healthycaliforniacampaign.org/ - a coalition pushing for single-payer healthcare in CA.

Thanks to the election throwing everyone into high gear, you'll be hearing BIG NEWS within a month, so this is a good time to get in on the ground floor!

(If you're a member of a DSA chapter in CA your chapter leadership should have some info about this campaign they can share with you.)

curious about this BIG NEWS

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Speaking of unions, is it of any concern that AFL-CIO political director Michael Podhorzer went to this donor retreat thing? http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/23/democrats_missed_women_s_march_for_david_brock_donor_retreat.html I just happened to see that.

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Solaris 2.0 posted:

To get back on topic of doing things that will actually resist the Trump presidency and bring leftist ideas to American politics... The Montgomery County Democratic Party in Maryland is hosting a happy hour next Thursday in Bethesda at Lebanese Taverna:

http://www.mcdcc.org/calendar/

I am personally not sure I can make it, however if you can this is an excellent opportunity to break into the party, get your ideas heard, and drive the party left. Any DSA-sympathetic goons should definitely go!

Is it worthwhile to go as an independent registered voter? Assume I'm not going to just volunteer that info.

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Solaris 2.0 posted:

Honestly its a happy hour. Get a bunch of beer, eat lebanese food, and talk about how to turn the party left. According to the calendar, they also got a party meeting next month too.

The caption, taken directly from the calendar is as follows:

"Please join us at our Democratic happy hour. Members and potential members are welcome so bring your friends."

oh true, I somehow missed that the first time. Yeah, I think I'll stop by. Thanks a lot for the heads up!

Also, our (D) senator Van Hollen voted to confirm trump's appointments, so I'll be sure to mention that.

Edit: Also, it's two thursdays from now

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Speaking of maryland, there's a protest in Baltimore this Saturday. Not sure if I'm gonna go or not. https://www.facebook.com/events/1311309085571404/

Baltimore DSA posted about it, so expect that there will be at least a few of us there.

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https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/825045986603048961

:stare:

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https://twitter.com/SchneidRemarks/status/825051429299748866

https://twitter.com/SchneidRemarks/status/825134245417013253

So who's down to gonna recruit some juggalos?

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RiotGearEpsilon posted:

The DSA is planning to table at the Juggalo March. I confess I kind of want to go.

oh hell yea, I'll go to that.

"Everyone knows if they saw a juggalo on the exxon board of executives, they'd never do this. What they see is working people cooperating as one family and it makes them sweat. Let me tell you about the IWW"

Edit: Apparently there's a hashtag for this... #faygocialism :newlol:

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I was the only person repping DSA at the Baltimore protest today, as far as I saw. I got interviewed by some media so I hope that they got a good shot of my DSA button and/or the #dsa on my poster. :unsmith:

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unbutthurtable posted:

There's a slack set up for DSA, which is pretty good, but I do think you're right about needing something a little less, uhhh, millenial.

I still haven't gotten an invite to the slack :smith:

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Also, for anyone near Baltimore/BWI, we're welcoming refugees & immigrants at 5pm today https://twitter.com/BmoreBloc/status/825696099998523392

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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

someone prodded larry on friday about accepting invites, they were distracted for a bit. do the details you gave on the invite form match your DSA membership details (name, email, phone etc)? we're trying not to overwhelm the social media team cause they're scattered rn with everything going on but i'll see if they need more help triaging invite requests

I'm pretty sure it is. I don't want to overload the google doc, but should I resubmit just to be sure?

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Tias posted:

After I posted my memoirs from the Copenhagen youth house riots in the milhist thread, two posters have contacted me asking for advice on how to conduct first aid, make protection and organize for protests turning violent.

Would there be interest in a longer effort post about protective gear, organizing affinity groups and other tactics for street protest? I won't bother if no one's going to read it :effort:

I'd be interested!

OhFunny posted:

Called Senator Shaheen's office to thank her for stating she'll vote No on Jeff Session's nomination as AG. Learned she'll also be voting No on DeVos, Mnuchin, and Price. I said I was glad to hear that and urged that she vote No on all of Trump's upcoming appointments.

Called Senator Hassan's office to ask how she'll be voting on Jeff Session's nomination. I was told she was examining his nomination. I told the person on the phone that based on Jeff Session's past comments and actions she should vote No on his nomination. That I had been disappointed with her Yes vote on Mike Pompeo and that she should vote No on all of Trump's cabinet picks going future.

good doggy

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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

mmmaybe... i appreciate the concern about overloading the doc, though.

I finally got around to resubmitting it yesterday. Thanks for helpin me out

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unbutthurtable posted:

Have you joined us in the new DSA thread on these very forums?

What?! That's a thing!?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3808020

:aaaaa:

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please be careful out there when protesting yall

https://twitter.com/michael_bodley/status/827009555859066882

https://twitter.com/MattHjourno/status/827014127264493568

Ruzihm
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https://twitter.com/burnlittlelight/status/826903075361157120 this is a good thread

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ate all the Oreos posted:

https://twitter.com/BlkMenForBernie/status/836056881671987200

Burn the democratic party to the ground and salt the ashes

:catstare:

This is pathetic.

Pretty funny stealth endorsement of anarchists though, to (correctly) suggest that anarchists disagree with people being under-represented in decisions that concern them.

Edit: Actually does anyone have a source for this quote that isn't from washingtontimes or breitbart?

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ate all the Oreos posted:

Yeah MLK was all about that gradual change

remember when we had that gradual civil war to eradicate chattel slavery in the us? very gradual & peaceful.

Ruzihm
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So... I don't have access to facebook atm. Please tell me there are a ton of anti-VOICE rallies getting organized.

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don't forget to post your lefty music in the lefty music thread :buddy: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817349

Ruzihm
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Join an ATT strike, yo* https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/strike-at-att-mobility?source=DSA


*If an agreement isn't reached.

Ruzihm
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Annual Prophet posted:

if only we were all one big union

We had some iww peeps at our local picket :anarchists:

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Telling your local dems to support universal healthcare is a cool thing you can do
https://www.facebook.com/SocialistNYC/videos/1339973282707105/

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Plastic Pal posted:

What's IWW?

Wobblies is a silly nickname. :3:

https://twitter.com/RealTankieHours/status/981856292464558080

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I like what they did with the url: "all-of-area-mans-hard-work-finally-pays-off-for-employe-" :3:

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Oracle posted:

Just put it in terms they can understand: its just business.

"What is the company for? What is it purpose?"
Wait for them to answer obvious poo poo like 'make widgets' or whatever the hell company produces.

"No. This company exists to make money. The more money they make, the happier they are. So anything that costs them money they are going to not like and seek to reduce that cost. Only makes sense, right?"

"Because they exist to first and foremost make money, you are a number on a balance sheet. Its nothing personal. And the instant you start costing them more than they want to pay they're going to look for ways to reduce that cost. Which is why you need a union. Because you can do absolutely everything right and still get dicked over because they want to save money so they make more money. And the union doesn't think you're a number on a balance sheet. They don't think anyone should be treated like that. That's why we exist; to make sure you are treated like you deserve. To make sure you get a fair shake. And since there's strength in numbers we band together to make sure we have the power to get you that fair shake. For them, its business. For us, its personal."

Make sure you also stress that if they DO gently caress up it doesn't mean you can save their job, it just means you can make the company cough up proof that you hosed up instead of just them going 'because we said so.' One of the other myths people commonly believe about unions is that they make it impossible for people to get fired and it makes everyone in said union look bad when one schmuck who sucks at his job stays around forever because its too hard to fire him. If by 'too hard' you mean management actually has to do their loving job and document instances of incompetence and gather evidence to back up their claims and give you warnings, then sure, its hard. A good manager keeps track of performance so they can weed out bad apples. A bad one blames the union because they don't want to do the paperwork.


:yeah:

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