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What value is there in local third parties currently? Not "let's run a useless candidate every four years and do nothing else" third parties, but ones that, in theory, actually do things? I was talking about getting involved in local politics and someone recommended I start a local Peace and Freedom Party group (there isn't one in the Fresno area yet apparently), but given the current situation I'm thinking just joining the local Democrats and trying to pull things further left would be more successful and worthwhile. Is there any reason to do the former instead? It seems like it'd be a lot more effort, what with having to build from the ground up for the most part, for questionable benefit.Toph Bei Fong posted:Hey all, here's my advice for those just starting out, and what, in my experience, has and hasn't worked. I hope you find it helpful, and I'm happy to answer any questions you've got! This is great. Thanks for all this. I'm going to try to check out those books when I get the chance.
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Captain Fargle posted:Pulling the Democrats further left now, as they're rebuilding after Hillary, is going to be infinitely more effective and useful than any third party advocacy you do in the current American political situation. That's what I figured. Given that the party seems to already be moving left, what with Ellison being the most likely new head of the DNC and all, it seems like going for a third party instead of trying to affect one of the two major ones, particularly in a state like California that's already relatively liberal (even if the area I live in particular is kind of purple), would be a waste of time and passing up a huge opportunity. Felt like it was worth asking anyway though, if for no other reason than to get that question out of the way early.
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Nov 15, 2016 07:44
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Yeah, IRV is a good thing. I wish it (and STV or something similar for representatives) saw more use. Not sure how successful pushing for either would be, but it, particularly the latter, would help with how lovely things are. STV or something in particular would help kill gerrymandering. Which is part of why we're not likely to see it, really. Well, that and an amendment being needed for it on the national level; I think the states might be able to implement it if they want though?
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Nov 15, 2016 09:46
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I'm planning on getting involved locally soon (wanted to get started sooner, but getting used to things after moving, depression, and the search for a job have complicated things), and intend to visit the local county Democrat office on Wednesday, as well as join some of the local Democratic clubs. I'm in Fresno, California; is anyone here familiar with the local party and what they're like? I talked to a woman on the phone and it sounded like they're:
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