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HorseRenoir posted:Third parties are more useless than ever right now. Unless they're specifically organizing something that doesn't involve winning an election, your effort is far more needed in strengthening the major left-wing party that already exists in America. If only such a thing existed.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:My theory is that if even a tiny fraction of angry leftists went through the pain of getting involved in the Democratic party and getting into a leadership position, it'd tip the balance towards a much more progressive vision of the party. The pain of getting involved in the party here is not insignificant. It generally involves walking liberal baby idiots backwards through every single lie they've ever been told since they were in grade school just so that sentences like "don't torture people and bomb them with robots" can even parse as English. Edit: or "don't join the loving DSA" for that matter. spotlessd fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Captain Fargle posted:This is EXACTLY what the thread rules in OP say NOT to do. Hey idiot you don't make the rules and you did this to yourself. Change the thread title to "dumb bullshit liberals think will help" if you want to bring some clarity to the discussion. See: spotlessd posted:The pain of getting involved in the party here is not insignificant. It generally involves walking liberal baby idiots backwards through every single lie they've ever been told since they were in grade school just so that sentences like "don't torture people and bomb them with robots" can even parse as English. spotlessd fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Agnosticnixie posted:Antifa are mostly cool and good and most of the crying about them being bad comes from moderate who think fascistlivesmatter and would probably think premature anti-fascism is unironically a thing. Okay but there's definitely a kind of moral hazard that comes with inviting weepy, wounded liberals to join up with antifa groups that routinely get their teeth kicked in while the police look the other way.
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You know if you can't even utter the word "communist" on an internet message board I'm not sure that "effective leftism" is the right word for whats being planned here.
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Nov 16, 2016 00:58
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Salvor_Hardin posted:My wife and I are thinking of getting involved with Take Action MN. http://www.takeactionminnesota.org/work/ It might be difficult to get involved with a group that doesn't actually appear to do anything. Are you near Minneapolis? What's your political interest?
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Yes, south Minneapolis. In terms of political motivation we are both very liberal and looking to channel some of this despair into productive action. My wife is a professor in the humanities at the university and we are worried that MN is going to trend like Wisconsin with regard to public education and attacks on tenure. SEIU Local 248 and MAU will probably be the ones coordinating political opposition on that front. A friend of mine works for the former, full disclosure. I'll check with him and see what they're up to. Judging by the Take Action website, that's probably who they would have put you in touch with anyway. Unfortunately a lot of this stuff is very defensive because the movement doesn't emerge until some specific piece of legislation turns up. Most of the other big issues with the exception of police brutality stuff (which in Minneapolis has generally been one shitshow after another courtesy of BLM and Socialist Alternative) are going to be handled by non-profits and other basically worthless good vibes mills. Are you up for protests? Volunteer work? Organizing? There's a lot of opportunities for just doing "good" at the level of charities and outreach but in terms of all-purpose lefties building political movements, it might be a month or two before anything substantial materializes in terms of specific opposition to right-wing policy.
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