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Kekekela posted:http://time.com/4661074/republican-town-hall-criticism-obamacare-repeal/ Oh cool my father graduated with Gus from Stetson and has never thought highly of him. Lives deep in Spring Hill now so votewise it's a moot point but lol at that jackass washing out.
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Kekekela posted:At Gus Bilirakis town hall in Pasco county, FL right now. Gus getting crushed. Never seen so many pissed off subrbanites. My home county doing me proud 
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xcheopis posted:"Evil wins because Leftists are stupid." I wouldn't say stupid but certainly picky. Decades of refusing to assert any kind of influence at any time means the system grows in a fashion consistent with your non-existence. It's pretty rich to say you're being ignored when you are staying silent. That's why it's so informative to see things moving along now, even if it's under these circumstances. Engagement is good, because it shows what power it has - Perez might not have the career history of defending civil and labor rights that Ellison had, or the broad organizational leadership experience, or the leftist credentials from 6 months ago, but he's a step in the right direction over the likes of Kaine. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 15:30
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ate all the Oreos posted:Does "primary the gently caress out of everyone until they're terrified" count as "abstaining" because I think that's what we're saying to do And it's working now, when plenty of damage has been done. As much as I live in hope that the urgency and spirit that's been shown since November will continue in perpetuity, I really fear that whatever gains through a congress or presidency will fall back once people tune out because they're too busy undoing the damage to make enough new progress. For gently caress's sake even if a supermajority gets elected in 2018 and impeaches then removes everyone down to the secretary of agriculture or whatever, the EPA will need to be rebuilt, the voting rights of millions will need to be restored, laws will need to be repealed and regulations put back in place, etc. That's assuming a supermajority of like-minded leftist legislators who happily override vetoes nonstop. Enough damage has already been done that the investigations and triage will last for an entire congressional term and if the people who put them in there decide to stay home 2 years later because they aren't seeing banks and petrocorps getting nationalized then it'll have been for absolutely nothing. All the pain and suffering, all the protests and time spent calling and demanding answers from elected officials will be swept under the rug like 2010 and things will at best grind to a halt.
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Feb 27, 2017 18:41
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Dude rolls in here basically saying everyone needs to hear Nazis out and accept that maybe there's something to the jobless cracker mindset of "immigrants/taxes took my job" instead of "unfettered capitalism took my job and my home and any hope of recovering and I helped them do it" which is where people should be directing the discussion. I mean you don't want to call them jobless crackers to their face or blame them directly but you certainly want to help them spot the enemy. They got duped, plain and simple. They ought to be mad, you are there to help them extract revenge on the Romneys and Trumps and Bushes and Jamie Dimons of the world. These power brokers don't care, the jobless cracker doesn't even exist to these people. They're just a mark on a ballot to be conned and traded away for more money for them and them alone.
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Feb 28, 2017 19:01
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:I already do, I just didn't want people who don't to think this was an America-only thing. Yeah it's just that leftism in other countries has historically been slightly more effective, whereas in the US the concept of a right to healthcare and a state taking responsibility for the welfare of indigents is essentially sedition so naturally under the circumstances people will immediately be assuming this is another in a long line of tries to push for those lofty first-world goals like nationalized health care and more progressive/comprehensive/redistributive tax policy. All that said, poo poo's getting bad in a lot of those nominally social democracy countries because they're totally independently turning against global/'western' diplomacy and embracing xenophobia while reaching out for stronger ties with Russia at the same time for some reason. Strong leftist movements are needed to combat that poo poo globally, so this absolutely should be an International thread.
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Mar 4, 2017 00:34
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Veyrall posted:I am physically incapable of understanding subtlety. Please explain this, even though it's probably slightly off-topic. Whole lot of right-wing candidates happened to have appeared out of the ether all over the world and have strolled into power on scooping together the previously-alienated xenophobia/islamophobia/protectionist voting blocs while name-dropping blue-collar labor just enough to lull the left into naptime. Once they get in it's been one axe after another swung against the post-WWII diplomatic/economic stability of institutions like NATO and the EU.
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Mar 4, 2017 05:27
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ate all the Oreos posted:Also it's possible that the racists only lost because Trump et al is doing such an amazingly terrible job that people saw him and went "lol nope" rather than seeing racism as the problem This is a distinct possibility, for a solid week after the US election a lot of nominally leftist people were doing the same thing in ignoring the blatant stoking of racial hatred.
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Mar 16, 2017 14:05
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Doorknob Slobber posted:a lot of peeps ignoring that poo poo before the election too and suddenly democrats care about millions being deported and stuffed into concrete boxes with space blankets The way progress gets taken for granted is kind of the worst part of it all - the concept of a long and tedious fight is forgotten because you're assuming the department of justice will remain just and that the government will just naturally act to protect civil rights to at least some degree, because it's been that way since you were like 10.
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Mar 17, 2017 02:51
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Hey, whatever gets people on the bus. Hell even people who were alive in the GW Bush years were willing to accept that you've sometimes got to cast a vote against someone rather than for because the options are regression versus status quo. Especially folks who'd seen things go from all right under Clinton to hellride under Bush. On the other hand, Reagan showed up right around the time when you'd have people dying off or at least getting old enough to be bedridden on election day who'd entered adolescence during a time when things weren't yet Bad but were Getting Bad after 1929 and saw what could come of a government-wide will to Fix That poo poo. So yeah I think you're on to something there but just not on such rare a timetable as once every century or so. Two terms is long enough for someone to go from "my biggest concerns are crust on my lunch sandwich and what gross poo poo I can pull at lunch" to "oh god I just graduated and not only are there no goddamn jobs paying enough to cover rent and loan repayment but I'm also being threatened because of my identity" and it's sure as hell long enough for someone to start thinking it'll always be relatively normal and safe to be trans/black/gay. More than that and you have people just loving off because they think we can't roll backwards.
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Mar 17, 2017 06:39
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Annual Prophet posted:as with every other large scale political event, there are a lot of confounding variables here: many factors contributed to the win on ahca I think that momentum is going to be really important and really powerful moving forward. People who previously felt powerless for whatever reason are just now finding out that they do indeed have incredible power if they would just care to exercise it. This was kind of a haymaker out of nowhere though and I doubt the GOP is as unprepared for it now so I'm looking forward to turning these townhalls into pissed-off votes-in-waiting.
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Mar 25, 2017 12:43
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dwarf74 posted:I'm hoping to see some results in our township elections this coming Tuesday. The Democrat running for Township Supervisor has really gone all-out, taking this incredibly seriously and doing a great job getting her name out there. I hope it makes a difference. In my podunk city's mayoral race they're sending O'Malley to campaign for the D candidate tomorrow and then Bernie is coming later on during the general phase (it's got a Louisiana-style primary-runoff setup instead of party primaries). It's Omaha, in case anyone hasn't read anything anywhere it's basically a cornfield with a half million people in it.
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Apr 1, 2017 00:27
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Jack Gladney posted:There are apparently nazis marching in my town next Saturday and I'm frightened at the prospect. My local DSA and some other socialist groups are organizing a planning meeting this week, presumably to figure out a counterprotest. I've never seen either a nazi rally or attended a proper counterprotest, and I'm not sure what to do. I'm afraid there will be violence, as the nazis have a facebook even for it where they're apparently trying to provoke antifa groups into attacking them, but I can't ignore nazis any more. What should I do? Got a clocktower nearby?
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May 7, 2017 18:09
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I don't. Neoliberalism is basically conservatism with a double dose of gently caress unions. It was exemplified by Reagan and Thatcher and has become a core ideology within the Republican party. I think some of the newly minted leftists in the US think neoliberalism is something it isn't because it just sounds like it fits the description of someone who isn't a leftist but also not a fascist.
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Jul 15, 2017 20:24
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Kekekela posted:Called my (R) congressman today to complain about provisions of the Spending Bill that undercut Dodd Frank. Got put on hold for a while when I asked where Gus stood on this one and basically got back my first "gently caress if we know but we'll try to find out". Funny how off the radar important poo poo like this is just due to the sheer volume of insane things going down. Just point out how it stops terrorist financing lol ol' bilirakis will eat it right up because that district (and basically everything else from Pinellas to the Panhandle) is full of people who freaked out about 9/11 even harder than people in the NYC area.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:"Unions let incompetent workers stay employed" well buddy I got some news for you - every single business has a protected class of workers that get to be incompetent and keep their jobs. It's called "friends and family of management". also cops even in places that aren't law enforcement fuckers do that brotherhood poo poo everywhere like some porcine sacred band of thebes
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