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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I'm interested how you will get through this, it would seem almost un-lets-playable to me, even though this DLC is the pinnacle of RPG gaming, only matched by the other Witcher 3 DLC.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Yeah, sure there are. There's this weird, but necessary disconnect between gameplay and lore in this case, monsters are supposed to be getting increasingly rare, as people reclaim more and more land for settlements and fields, and in doing so destroy monster habitats. so for most people, monsters are not that much of a concern, really. That's why witchers are in such decline sand why most folks seem ignorant of even basic monster species. The Witcher games get around that by picking settings that are full of extreme suffering and bloodshed that feeds monsters / distant and untamed / cursed. In the main map of Witcher 3, the countryside is ravaged by war, and the surviving peasants are too poor and famished to actually have any significant heads of livestock left, so village butchers don't really have anything that would attract monsters. It's the dead bodies from battles and banditry and abandoned villages that keeps monsters around, the actual inhabited places are a slim pickings in comparison.

But there are several side quests revolving around monsters infesting somebody's farm, or beasts hunting livestock.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Poil posted:

Ah, that explains a lot thank you. But doesn't a lot of monsters quite happily eat people? Can the city guards or soldiers handle monsters (I assume they can if there are enough of them)? Or do people hire witchers to clear out an area and then move in and shovel all over it to make fields and such?

The Witcher is really good at making the place seem populated from what I've seen so far though. The tiny villagers have almost as many buildings as normal rpg towns and while the countryside can only be described as overrun by monsters you can take two steps outside a city wall and not get mauled by fiften bears.

Well, keep in mind that the witcher lore is based on real world folk tales. Monsters, crones and other scary things lurk outside the civilized world, as a metaphor for the dangers of straying too far into the wilderness, or for being reckless outside the safety of one's village at daylight. Monsters live in the forest just outside the outlayingfields, outside well travelled roads, and anywhere where there isn't enough light and human presence to keep them away, such as cemetaries and sewers. They are more of an oppressive presence that can be managed with appropriate precautions than an existential threat. When they venture into inhabited areas, it's because their territory has been infringed upon and they are desperate, because the civilization has crumbled and the line between the world of people and of monsters has disappeared, or because they are intelligent monsters who can hide in cities and parasite on their people without being detected.

Witchers are hired to deal with unusual spikes of monster activity, or with individual monsters that become dangerous to humans for some reason, but other than that monsters are just a force of nature, similar to wolves, bandits, or just getting lost at night and falling to death in a ravine. And as such they disappear as the spread of civilization into remote areas irreversibly changes the ecology and makes their niches disappear. The reason why witchers are necessary for this is that monsters are more dangerous than average beasts, on account of being not of this world, and that witchers can counter this with special training that would kill ordinary humans. However it is quite possible for ordinary people to kill monsters as well, it's just dangerous. In fact a major plot point of the first game is that a knightly order has been set up with a mission to eradicate monsters, and they consider witchers to be an obsolete institution.

The reason why the game diverges from this lore in its mechanics is that it is a game, and it wouldn't be marketable without regular combat.

steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Nov 25, 2016

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Fortunately you would have to be a real big sucker to believe that.

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