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Nameless Pete
May 8, 2007

Get a load of those...

Gripweed posted:

Medical professionals get too much respect. It's a holdover from when only the richest, whitest men were allowed to look at a corpses or a nude woman without going to "gaol". That notion that being a doctor is somehow more noble or prestigious than any other job is just a relic from that time.

I have a friend who became a doctor because his mother, father, and older sister are all nurses. They're proud of him, but there is also a major "Well la dee loving da" component to it.

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hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

one problem is doctors are super, super cheap, so they pay their receptionists minimum wage. so all of your important poo poo sits in a to-do pile for three days before anyone looks at it, poo poo gets coded wrong for insurance most of the time, and they're just generally miserable and catty

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

hawowanlawow posted:

one problem is doctors are super, super cheap, so they pay their receptionists minimum wage. so all of your important poo poo sits in a to-do pile for three days before anyone looks at it, poo poo gets coded wrong for insurance most of the time, and they're just generally miserable and catty

This does seem like a natural side effect of doctoring being the profession for "get reliably rich" as opposed to for "help people"

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018

Gripweed posted:

Medical professionals get too much respect. It's a holdover from when only the richest, whitest men were allowed to look at a corpses or a nude woman without going to "gaol". That notion that being a doctor is somehow more noble or prestigious than any other job is just a relic from that time.

Doctors are just trying to sell you expensive poo poo, they're basically the same as car stereo people. If anything they're worse, if there's something you want at the car stereo shop and you've got the money, they'll do it. But doctors are so high on their own fake authority they'll refuse to perform procedures or give you medicine unless they think you need it. That is insane, no other service person in the world acts like that.

They’re plumbers for the human body. Nothing more, nothing less. 99% of their job is naming things, that’s something we expect of 4 year olds.

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


The doctors I know (I'm on friendly terms with my GP and my prior GP, and my one partner is a specialist) all went into medicine because they wanted to help people, but over here the problem is that they are overworked and underfunded.

Like, when I went to ask if I could get a bridging prescription for HRT, my GP's face literally fell and he explained that he ideally he would want to, but he does not have enough time in the day to research that properly and is essentially terrified of doing a fuckup especially in terms of malpractice. He's been great with accommodating my access needs and making sure I get medical care with other issues. The reason I'm stuck on waiting lists at the moment is because the clinic I need care from can only afford to operate 1 day a week, so they have a backlog of like 100 people that it'll take a year to see. Everyone in the system generally means well, but we're all victims of medical filibustering.

The receptionist problem over here is they started shifting work from receptionists to doctors out of privacy concerns. Which, I get, but realistically that means that my doctor is stuck after hours typing up a fuckload of notes by hand when ideally a secretary should be transcribing them.

Personally after being in and out of hospitals my entire life, I did consider going into medicine, but decided against it because differential diagnoses are hard as gently caress and I don't want to be responsible for inadvertently causing another individual catastrophic pain. I don't like the idea that I could have the power to prescribe someone else medicine and accidentally gently caress up a decimal place, etc.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Opera singers should tone down the vibrato to a reasonable level.

When done in moderation, on selected long notes, vibrato is fine. Great, even. But it seems like opera singers do it all the freaking time, to such an extent that it sounds like they're going AAAAooAAAAooAAAAoo.

I freely acknowledge that I am an uncultured, uneducated philistine who knows nothing about the art of the opera. (I can't even put what I'm complaining about into proper terminology.) Those of you who do have some idea what you're talking about, feel free to shoot me down. Still, this is a good chunk of the reason I've never cared for that particular art form, and I suspect I'm not alone. These people would be amazing singers if they weren't doing every note like it's a fire engine on fast forward.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Performances are long and it's almost impossible to have the stamina to go without without damaging your voice or losing steam.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Gaius Marius posted:

Performances are long and it's almost impossible to have the stamina to go without without damaging your voice or losing steam.

See, I had no idea that it was easier to sing with a deep vibrato than to sing the note straight. (See my "uncultured, uneducated philistine" note above.) But wouldn't that make it all the more impressive to be able to sing a constant note?

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Powered Descent posted:

See, I had no idea that it was easier to sing with a deep vibrato than to sing the note straight. (See my "uncultured, uneducated philistine" note above.) But wouldn't that make it all the more impressive to be able to sing a constant note?

It's incredibly controversial through history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrato#In_opera

Opera fans are incredibly opinionated and as someone who enjoys it, but is no means an expert I find a lot of the more knives out discourse to be bewildering and contradictory.

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


I don't mind too much about opera but I wish there was more appreciation of "people strong singing voices" within other forms of music.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
I probably should learn to enjoy opera but I probably never will.

I feel the same way about most art—there’s tons of great art out there but I don’t really have the will to experience most of it

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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thetoughestbean posted:

I probably should learn to enjoy opera but I probably never will.

I feel the same way about most art—there’s tons of great art out there but I don’t really have the will to experience most of it

just get into movies, they're the best kind of art

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018

thetoughestbean posted:

I probably should learn to enjoy opera but I probably never will.

I feel the same way about most art—there’s tons of great art out there but I don’t really have the will to experience most of it

Operas are just old musicals. Imagine South Pacific but everyone is singing in Italian.

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

alexandriao posted:

I don't mind too much about opera but I wish there was more appreciation of "people strong singing voices" within other forms of music.

Sorry, best I can do is power metal.

saladscooper
Jan 25, 2019

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Powered Descent posted:

Opera singers should tone down the vibrato to a reasonable level.

When done in moderation, on selected long notes, vibrato is fine. Great, even. But it seems like opera singers do it all the freaking time, to such an extent that it sounds like they're going AAAAooAAAAooAAAAoo.

I freely acknowledge that I am an uncultured, uneducated philistine who knows nothing about the art of the opera. (I can't even put what I'm complaining about into proper terminology.) Those of you who do have some idea what you're talking about, feel free to shoot me down. Still, this is a good chunk of the reason I've never cared for that particular art form, and I suspect I'm not alone. These people would be amazing singers if they weren't doing every note like it's a fire engine on fast forward.

vibrato isn't something opera singers like, force on themselves, it's actually a naturally consequence of the muscles working in tandem as they're supposed to and the breath freely moving

now, there's a difference between bad vibrato and good vibrato, and -that- you can argue about all day

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!

alexandriao posted:

I don't mind too much about opera but I wish there was more appreciation of "people strong singing voices" within other forms of music.

Whatever gets me more Tom Joneses and Shirley Basseys.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Robobot posted:

Operas are just old musicals. Imagine South Pacific but everyone is singing in Italian.

The quality of music is significantly better in Opera. As in it's actually enjoyable to listen to.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Does this apply to all musical theatre in your opinion?

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Gaius Marius posted:

The quality of music is significantly better in Opera. As in it's actually enjoyable to listen to.

Gaius I hope you realize that your elitist attitude actively repels people from the art you say you want them to experience

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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“Woods porn” was nowhere near the widespread common childhood experience people act like it was.

AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

Gripweed posted:

“Woods porn” was nowhere near the widespread common childhood experience people act like it was.

Sorry your local woods were a barren wasteland. That's no way to grow up smh.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Gripweed posted:

“Woods porn” was nowhere near the widespread common childhood experience people act like it was.

Oh it totally was. You just weren't in the right woods.

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


thetoughestbean posted:

Gaius I hope you realize that your elitist attitude actively repels people from the art you say you want them to experience

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

Gaius Marius posted:

The quality of music is significantly better in Opera. As in it's actually enjoyable to listen to.

Look at IRL Frasier Crane over here lol

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Have you opera and other music enjoyers heard (about) Nightwish? Combines operatic vocals, power metal, and score-like orchestration. Finnish band, been quite popular overseas too, mayhaps check it out.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

One of the sups I used to work with used to be way into them. I thought it always sounded terrible, but we were also listening to it on a blown out old speaker in a restaurant filled with fryers and timers going off. Listening to them now it seems alright, but also like the kind of band that only really hits when you're there in person.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Gaius Marius posted:

One of the sups I used to work with used to be way into them. I thought it always sounded terrible, but we were also listening to it on a blown out old speaker in a restaurant filled with fryers and timers going off.

I hate this, some people at work listen to music on their phone speakers, or on the internal speakers on computers, and I just wanna say what the gently caress are you doing...

Nightwish has a pretty wide array of songs, so would be interested in hearing what you sampled.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Mega Man 3 isn't that great a game. A lot of it is just nostalgia. Unfinished, repetitive (the four stages after you beat the Robot Masters, plus Wily's Fortress plus defeating Protoman, plus defeating Wily himself), and unoriginal Robot Master powers (Top Spin :laffo:). Both 2 and 4 are better games.

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!
But mega Man 3 had the part where if you hold right on the second controller you got a better jump and if you intentionally jumped into a pit it didn't kill you and then you could bump into an enemy in the pit and then drain your health but because you were in the pit you didn't die and then you could just jump out of the pit and even if you let go of the second controller you were still immune to enemy damage!

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Two words: Metal Blade.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


doverhog posted:

I hate this, some people at work listen to music on their phone speakers, or on the internal speakers on computers, and I just wanna say what the gently caress are you doing...
I can understand this when that's the best option available because you want some background sound, but what really bothers me is when there's a better option and it's not being used. Like, walking into a room in which my sister is playing music through her laptop speakers instead of plugging in the audio cable that's sitting right there for that exact purpose and listening through the good speakers.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Yeah, in case of your sister it's even worse arguably, lol. *because she has the option of better audio rather than just not listening at work

But anyway I like music so much I don't wanna half hear part of a song I like on poo poo speakers: much less most songs, that I don't like.

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doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Incidentally, if you are looking for music.

Hole - Live Through This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5bWWNbvPmY

Legit one of the best albums, ever. Better than what Nirvana ever did.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.
That looks like that one fella's avatar.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

Mega Man 3 isn't that great a game. A lot of it is just nostalgia. Unfinished, repetitive (the four stages after you beat the Robot Masters, plus Wily's Fortress plus defeating Protoman, plus defeating Wily himself), and unoriginal Robot Master powers (Top Spin :laffo:). Both 2 and 4 are better games.

Yeah 4s the best

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Gripweed posted:

“Woods porn” was nowhere near the widespread common childhood experience people act like it was.

I blame climate change. Changing weather patterns and earlier, stormier spring rains affect the migration patterns of Juggs and Penthouse species. Habitat destruction of printing presses and declining sources of subscription forage have also greatly impacted their proliferation.

These days you'd be lucky to find a scraggly colony of them holed up in an attic somewhere.

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

credburn posted:

That looks like that one fella's avatar.

Teen Witch, pretty sure it's intentional.

Panfilo posted:

I blame climate change. Changing weather patterns and earlier, stormier spring rains affect the migration patterns of Juggs and Penthouse species. Habitat destruction of printing presses and declining sources of subscription forage have also greatly impacted their proliferation.

These days you'd be lucky to find a scraggly colony of them holed up in an attic somewhere.

I grew up in South Florida, and we made do even with rain 200+ days a year. Our local woodsporn was a few magazines inside a ratty briefcase in a stand of trees in the nearby park, but there were other caches. We would also dead drop things (almost never porn) for each other in zip top bags and coffee canisters in cow pastures and parks.

Climate change will certainly affect it, but it's still entirely possible to woodsporn even in the worst of it.

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Robobot
Aug 21, 2018
Nature finds a way.

Ommin
Apr 5, 2006
I like to watch CinemaSins and Honest Trailers for all the movies I'm curious about but don't want to watch. It's like Cliff's Notes with commentary notes to use in conversation to "prove you watched it."
Truth is, like everything else, woods porn and even the very concept of hard-to-find-naked-people was irrevocably ruined by the internet. There are no mysteries to solve, no treasures left to discover.

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Nov 8, 2018

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Ommin posted:

Truth is, like everything else, woods porn and even the very concept of hard-to-find-naked-people was irrevocably ruined by the internet. There are no mysteries to solve, no treasures left to discover.

There are still some fetishes with very little porn representation, and far more fetishes with no high quality porn representation. It's a very solvable problem too, with so many fantastic artists struggling to find work. We really need the National Endowment for the Arts to step up and start providing grants to artists to service underprivileged fetish communities.

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