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Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Ive always thought this and not just cuz of the last thread getting gassed: gassing threads just because they get derailed or someone shits it up is dumb. If it's being derailed a mod can just post "hey relax" or whatever to get it back on track, or probate for a few hours the offending posters. Instead the threads are just gone with no explanation, and usually its only a few posters out of many that ruined it for everyone.
It's worse in gbs, but still, its a crappy way to govern the threads, especially since there is no post mortem as to why most of the time.

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Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
One of the best ways to judge the character of a person is how they react to and treat children. Their own or otherwise

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Absolutely. I agree with all your points.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Changing behavior or appearanced to appease grandma or dad or uncle whoever to avoid conflict is dumb as hell, especially if you're hosting. The idea that you have to change to avoid conflict is cowardly

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Tiggum posted:

Making minor sacrifices to get along with people you can't avoid: cowardly. :rolleyes:


Minor is not bringing up a sensitive topic like politics after a tough election. Crossing the line is lying about who you voted for or removing artwork or decorations because it might offend nana.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
More cuz im frustrated but doubling down: changing behaviors, hiding things or ideas because elders dont agree with them is dumb as hell. For example hiding out of wedlock babies, living situations, job choices, etc from old conservative folk is dumb and cowardly. They can, and should, be told to shut the hell up if it isnt their business whether they are 35 or 95, and deal with it.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

This is a slippery slope to eugenics, when you start having a government intervene in "You can have a child and you can't."

Eugenics isn't bad.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

hard counter posted:




jastiger pls no, we already discussed this: eugenics explicitly frames itself in way that it's the science of controlling genes at the population level for the benefit of society, even without abuse (which there is so much room for) and with the noblest of intentions it's still a p. spooky endeavor considering the means it requires to realistically achieve its ends

what you probably actually want is just the normal science of medicine, one that isn't afraid to use therapeutic gene manipulation to treat inheritable disease

I dont see how the top paragraph conflicts or is even necessarily different than the bottom one.


Phuo: its worth discussing things more than once if it means more content is created, it brings new people into the discussion, and it is something enough people find interesting to talk about. If a topic pisses you off, post something interesting yourself to change the topic instead of just posting complaints about it.

Addendum: jastiger is one of the best posters on SA. :911:

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
I watched Steven Universe a few times and it seemed really dumb and kiddy. It didnt makensense why it was so popular to me.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Aramek posted:

I keep trying to like SU, because it really is good and stuff, but it's just some sort of personal incompatibility, I can only take one ep at a time. It's so full of empathy and "it's okay to be different" crap that I just gotta take it slow.

Content:

- As much as everyone loves a good beefsteak, I honestly think that, overall, I like pork more. Bonus that it's 1/10th the price sometimes.

Iowa chop fan spotted. <3.

Phuo: old movies and stuff suck. The level of acting talent today is far and away better than anything from the old school famous actors. Romanticizing them is a bit foolish imo. Respect them for blazing trails, but John Wayne is in no way close to say, Bruce Willis in acting ability.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

fruit on the bottom posted:

North by Northwest exists, so that can't possibly be true.

Seriously though, I think this is true to a point, but a lot of it comes from the evolution of acting as styles evolved away from their stage and silent film roots. I don't think that makes older movies any less worthwhile, but you've got to be in the right frame. I also don't think it's really relevant once you hit like the 70s.

And so help me if you're going to tell me that Shia LaBeouf is a better actor than Cary Grant, Jastiger. SO HELP ME.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwsOdsxDZh0

Is far better than

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHat1vlUOM8

Sorry bro.

Just like the one from more recent is far better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMG8DhwvrGg

its just evolved into a much more complicated and nuanced craft than what the old school folks did. They aren't on the same level.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

WampaLord posted:

His name is Clint Eastwood.

I almost put him down. But yeah Clint owns Wayne. The acting chops today are far more developed than the old actors. Sorry duder.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

steinrokkan posted:

Excessive pathos is not better per se, and that is what most of today's "better acting" is based on.

I disagree that they arent better actors. Look at the videos i posed and the way they deliver their lines. They are acting like the do on the stage. Loud and exaggerated motions. Bad pantomime of action scenes. Relatively little inflection in voice or facial features. It just wasn't as refined a craft like it is now. The old actors. Like the old gymnasts, just arent as good as modern day.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Das Boo posted:

There are a poo poo-ton of people that will deride you for taking a central stance on anything, implying that you're weak-willed, uninformed or contradictory if you're not absolutely [A] or [B]. It's not the first time I've heard that analogy and I think it came up the last time we tried discussing agnosticism in one of the previous iterations thread.

Sorry, I didn't mean to target you or anything. :(

Usually its true though. Being in the middle is often a cover for ignorance.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Das Boo posted:

I guess if you're incapable of empathy, sure, which is why it's such an unpopular opinion on here. :v: I just seriously can't imagine going into any kind of relationship with the incapacity for compromise. Not everyone's got your needs.


I genuinely like buying people gifts and it sucks when people deride you for buying into the commercialism. I just wanted to get you something cool, bro. :(

Relationship wise i totally agree. I meant more politically or Issues based discussions.

I also enjoy buying gifts for others. It feels good man.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Its an indictment of humanity and the American education system that propeganda and advertising works the way it does. Fake news shouldnt be a think in 2016, but because most conservatives are illiterate and morons false information has and will continue to influence the direction of the most powerful country in the world.

All because a significant minority of people are too stupid to check their facts or make a rational critical decision.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

WampaLord posted:

Why limit yourself to America? People all over buy into propaganda and advertising.

Becuase I live here and also we're supposed to have the most advanced education and social systems in the world. just lol.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

yeah I eat rear end posted:

"Fake news" isn't a recent thing. It has been around since news has been around. There is no truly objective news source anyway so this isn't the "gently caress the south" issue you wish it was.

Nah it actually is. Fake news has always been a thin, and what also has always been a thing has been the ability to
A) Create a cohesive argument that makes loving sense. Ex: LOL OBAMA USES A TELEPROMPTER WHAT AN IDIOT (everyone uses one) or KEEP YOUR GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY MEDICARE. By every measure this is retarded, regardless of political position.
B) The ability to discuss ideas in an educated or at least somewhat cohesive manner. Ex: I'm voting for X because he will help Y because X said and campaigned on doing Y

What has not always been the case has been the ability to immediately and easily and cheaply verify information. Ex: Obama spent 9 billion dollars on a personal armada to India in 2013. Ex: Clinton has had people killed personally and verifiably.

poo poo like that. Its one thing to not trust someone, its another to be a supposed intelligent member of a democratic society and be unable to comprehend and process basic information. A lot of Americans and people can, but unfortunately, a large minority can't.

And that is hosed up.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

yeah I eat rear end posted:

The people who were prone to believing fake news about Hillary were going to vote Republican either way, just like the people who can't see through the heavily biased pieces on the other side of the spectrum. It's such a silly thing to focus on. If "fake news" had an effect on the election outcome it wasn't statistically relevant.

Lol if you don't think a substantial number of people voted for Trump/Didnt' vote at all because of the fake news about her indictment, murdering people, and liesa bout OBama for the past 8 years.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

yeah I eat rear end posted:

The things that seemed to matter to people, like Comey re-opening the investigation and just news about the investigation about her emails in general, were not fake news. Those were things that actually happened. If I had a dollar for every person who was swayed solely based on the really out-there stuff like pizzagate I'd be lucky to have a single dollar. The only people who buy into that extreme fake conspiracy theory poo poo are just hardcore anti-Hillary people who would believe pretty much anything if it aligned with their preset viewpoint.

That poo poo has a latent effect. Everyone hated Hillary not because of any specific reason, but because of the years of anti-Hillary messaging they have had ever since Clinton was elected back in the 90s. Sure you probably can't say "Is the Comey thing swaying you" they'd say "no, but everything else has and this is just another log on the fire". It mattered significantly in this election.

Also Comey re-opening the investigation was a TOTAL nonsense thing because it intentionally stirred up sensationalism over something that had nothing to do with Hillary. But that sure steered the narrative among the idiots, didn't it?

The left has its fake news and things like that, but they don't swallow it whole the same way the Right does. THey don't share and reshare poo poo, and more often than not its satire or wishful thinking on liberalnewslol.com or some poo poo. It isn't like the Denver Guardian that sounds legit with complete false premises that soft headed Southerners eat up.

But its not just this election, its just in general. The American populace has been shown to be actually unable to internalize facts and data, and its embarrassing.

We were never at war with Eurasia.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

There are a few pretty good reasons to hate Clinton.

Actually no there isnt when faced with the alternative. Also more info coming out about Russian tampering hohoho. Fuckin idiots

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

spit on my clit posted:

the russians hacked all the ballots, even the paper ballots!!!

Brb sharing this on social media and making it a main plank of muly candidacy.

Almosy everything is improvrd with vanilla

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
This thread right now, from a ridiculously good movie:

https://youtu.be/ss0jLHvMO20

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Many "classic" books are often well written and innovative for their time.

But.

I feel like this newest generation, and it probably started with my generation, is going to be so far removed from a lot of the social and economic constructs in these books that they seem boring snf tired beside more modern and relevent iterations and thus, become more relevent for their historical rather than their authoritative impact.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Its been true for a long time but for serious now, every day that goes by and someone believes in a theistic god like for real, its another day the human race is closer to destruction.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

spit on my clit posted:

listening to athiests whine about theists is much more insufferable than listening to theists whining about atheists

Check ur privilege

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Being mean to sales people makes you a piece of poo poo.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
It really isn't. People are assholes to sales people all the time and are often proud of it

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Grandmother of Five posted:

i can sympathise with this to the extent that it would be nice to see higher conviction rates and more focus on these types of crimes, but there needs to be a very strong correlation between a punishment that restricts areas of work and the crime comitted; like paedophiles not being allowed to work with children.

as far as an unpopular opinion goes; crimes shouldn't be punished outside of the criminal justice system. it doesn't really matter how heinous the crime is, it isn't the job of individual citizens, other inmates, private corporations or shareholders to punish crime, and restricting access to work is a very serious punishment. once time is served, former criminals ought to be able to enter the work-force on equal footing with everyone else; it is perhaps the single most important issue when it comes to rehabilitation. these restrictions should be court mandated and not left to the discretion of individual employers.

Correct with some caveats. Normal employment sure, but any kind of executive exempt position, there should be allowed some discretion for sure.


As for theaters i enjoy the movie experience, especially when they have food and beer and stuff. What sucks ut the enjoyment is the price. Its stupid to pay a ton for popcorn or poo poo. Thats dumb as hell. At least the restaurant places serve gourmet stuff.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
I know they make a ton of money on snacks because the mark up is insane but id legit go more often and buy more if it wasnt a $30 experience. Just the audacity they have to even ask that turns me off from even going.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Liking Fireball is another of Jastigers Mark of the Riff Raff. It is bad. Dont drink fireball, dont be Riff Raff.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Someone hasnt had Hawkeye vodka

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Biscuits and gravy are disgusting and it is shameful its so popular in the midwest

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Solice Kirsk posted:

Thought that was a southern thing. Unless you mean you're upset that people eat it in the midwest, which doesn't make a lot of sense since you can walk into pretty much any diner in the US and get them. So maybe what you're trying to say is you don't like it?

All of the above

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
If you have a storm door and a regular door and you lock your storm door, you are riff raff. Kill you are self if on top of that you dont have a door bell.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

spit on my clit posted:

do you smell burnt toast

Nah. Just people pissin me off

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

spit on my clit posted:

big bang theory is just two and a half men except everyone is the guy that isn't charlie sheen (or ashton kutcher)

The only thing worse than liking big bang theory and two and a half men is voting Republican.




Barely.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

veni veni veni posted:

How much does anyone want to bet Jastiger was drunk as poo poo and locked out of a house when this was posted?

No i travel to peoples homes for my work and they have a storm door and an actual door and no doorbell. Hey fucker how am i supposed to let you know im here for thr appointment if you've turned your house into a fortress. Yes let me ineffectually tap on some plexiglass instead of actual knocking.

Idiots.


Also why is Toy Story 3 so reknown for being good? It was kinda cute, kinda racist, kinda dumb. Whats so great about it?

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
I think ive even posted it in this iteration of the thread, but eugenics is actually good.

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Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Pick i love you but no. Toxic Slurpee is right. Its immoral not to select for non cancer genes or terminal diseases for example if we had the capability.

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