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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Tiggum posted:

If you think well done steak is objectively wrong but you like crispy bacon, you are a fool and a hypocrite. Overcooked meat is overcooked; either acknowledge that different tastes are equally valid or stop ruining your bacon.

Crispy bacon, unlike an overdone steak, doesn't have a bone-dry center. Also people actually try to achieve some crust on their steaks, similar to crispy bacon.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Take some white bread and soak it in steak sauce.

Will taste the same, for much less.

My unpopular opinion - we owe it to animals to ensure that their flesh is used in the best way possible. More seriously, though, I do genuinely get angry / sad when people waste meat, either by throwing away leftovers or by letting it spoil, and I think it speaks about their character, it doesn't seem right to be so careless about what used to be a living animal.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Even the "best anime" is garbage made by people trained to use what are fundamentally cheap cost-saving animation techniques borne out of the economic conditions of their era, and as a consequence anime can't hold a candle to proper animated movies.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Imperialist Dog posted:

Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc becoming their own countries was a bad idea and we should have become a super federated British state.

Literally laughed out loud at the idea somebody would voluntarily want to be associated with the UK in 2016.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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doverhog posted:

It's pretty clear from the post that I'm making no comment about the situation of any of these countries, but rather about the arguments used against refugees and/or immigrants.

Refugees and "expats" using their privilege to escape first world inconveniences are in no way comparable, so it is a very bad post. If anything these people are more similar to tax dodging, haven based corporations.

Naturally there are going to be people with legitimate reasons to escape, but those tend to be the ones least able to afford it.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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doverhog posted:

no u

The citizens of a country are under no obligation to stay and improve it if they want to go elsewhere instead.

They abandon their own people to their problems, and in fact actively make things worse for them.

It's cowardly and reckless. And then they wonder why so much of the country despises them.

To clarify I'm speaking exclusively about all the wealthy liberals who threatened to emigrate to Canada if they didn't get their way even though they stood to lose absolutely nothing in the election. They in effect said they would abandon their supposed fight for justice because of what ultimately amounts to petty personal grievances, while leaving the downtrodden classes they supposedly champion to their own devices.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Pick posted:

There's nothing wrong with exotic pets per se, and many of them are less dangerous than dogs which absolutely anyone can have. Either require training and permits for dogs, or shrug your shoulders when someone wants to own flying squirrel.

It's not just about danger, it's also about animal cruelty. Who can say they can provide an adequate habitat to a flying squirrel, not to mention something like a leopard.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Pick posted:

The same is entirely true of a dog or cat, though. I don't object to a ban per se, I object to the double standard where it's okay to have a Great Pyrenees crated in your 1br, but a possum is right out.

Well, I'm strongly in favor of greater owner and seller responsibility in raising and choosing certain dog breeds, though I don't know how it would be enforceable.

But for example in Switzerland it is punishable to only own one guinea pig / hamster, because they are social rodents. You can even rent hamsters as temporary companions for your pets if one of them dies and you can't get them a new companion right away.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Definitely. And I think the breeders who sell high maintenance dogs without vetting their new owners should be held equally responsible as the owners themselves.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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The Saddest Rhino posted:

Steven Universe is what the creators of Dragon Ball Z wish DBZ could have become, as SU contains more action, intrigue, character development and the lesson of the value of friendship in one season compared to DBZ's various seasons, spin offs, revival series, and mmo.

Steven Universe fans are one step below bronies. DBZ is a garbage show for five year olds, so comparing your darling crap to it does you no favors.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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San Andreas is definitely the high point of the series. The newer games seem... pointless? I dunno, they lack the spirit that made SA awesome.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Olive Garden tonight! posted:

The 'thing missing' is that you're not 15 years old any more.

Nah.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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I've never watched South Park, but this is the first time I've heard it described as hard right-wing propaganda.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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It was good for as long as basic zombie costumes and stabbing people in the head can be engaging - about fifteen minutes.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Decrepus posted:

All this thread does is normalize unpopular opinions and get other people to agree with them.

It's good for people to challenge the existing discursive universe, im a huge prick.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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The Saddest Rhino posted:

threatening violence, rape or death on people on the internet is sociopathic behaviour that should be condemned.

So is disliking dogs.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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100 degrees Calcium posted:

" just lets me know that you listen to anime and video game soundtracks.

As far anybody sane is considered, those don't count as music.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Two for three, not bad.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Animation is good when it adds something to the film form as a whole. E.g. movies like the Illusionist are amazing because they use animation to precisely track each frame to correspond with the emotion intended by the director in a way distinct from a live action movie. Alternatively movies like Hedgehog in the Fog or There Will Come The Soft Rains use the texture and physical properties of animated materials to evoke moods that would be otherwise impossible.

Also stop motion puppet movies are still impossible to replace with CGI, anybody can tell the difference between the two techniques, and the physical one just looks better if given enough effort.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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What exactly is non-Japanese anime?

PHUO: The only good animated serials are King of the Hill, Beavis and Butthead and Aeon Flux.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Jastiger posted:

I almost put him down. But yeah Clint owns Wayne. The acting chops today are far more developed than the old actors. Sorry duder.

Excessive pathos is not better per se, and that is what most of today's "better acting" is based on.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Don't worry, I'm happy to agree that comics are EVEN WORSE than manga!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Tiggum is a good poster with an open mind, exciting opinions and a zest for life.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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ToxicSlurpee posted:

Noisy, aggressive music isn't as popular as it deserves thanks to the social stigma surrounding enjoying it. It isn't OK to assume that every person that enjoys the heaviest metal they can find is a drug-addled loser who wants to spend his life being unemployed and getting into fights

Right, they are terrible and insufferable to be around for completely different reasons.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Pick posted:

My very unpopular opinion is that Blue Star, provided they're not a hoax account, is entitled to whatever perspective they have as a function of their experiences.

If a perspective is so bad that anybody's first though is "this must be a hoax", you may be entitled to it, but holy poo poo, should you reconsider it

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Aramek posted:

Star Wars kicks rear end because it's got magic and kung fu and space ships and laser swords. It's like a huge pile of awesome poo poo for winners.

EPIC BACON AWESOMESAUCE FOR THE WIN

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Why would anybody waste money on all these Star Wars and Star Trek garbage projects, when there is a perfectly good series of Lexx waiting to be made.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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A very appropriate post in this thread.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Aramek posted:

Even this poo poo is better than sad and boring movies.

It takes a sad and boring person to post the sort of commercialist garbage you've been writing in this thread. I hope you are just trolling with that.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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I don't understand why a newspaper would carry articles other than train timetables and technical descriptions of new elevator models.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Pick posted:

The "basic income" idea is flawed because people do need to have tasks. If they don't, they flounder. It doesn't matter if the task is ultimately of any use, as long as they think it is of some use. That said, people aren't being given a fair income to survive on, and this undercuts the entire system which relies on a perception of fairness.

People can occupy themselves if they have enough income and opportunities to meaningfully engage others vis a vis their interests. Even just spending time in various hobbyist groups would be more productive for the public well-being than forcing people into meaningless jobs de facto as punishment.

If people feel aimless and lost without guidance from somebody in charge of them, it is because they have been torn away from society (and from the means to pursue their passions), which severely limits their possibilities of being creative and productive out of their own volition.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Das Boo posted:

On the flip side, I say Stalin was worse than Hitler.

As bad as Stalin was, he didn't even come close to being on Hitler's level. The Nazis even killed more Soviet civilians in a couple of years than Stalin managed during his entire reign, including famines.

I say the Japanese were as bad as Nazis, in quality and quantity of their crimes.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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The figure is something like 6 - 12 million, depending on what you consider to be avoidable deaths. The figures in tens of millions usually come from Cold War pamphlets or from some demagogue demographic magic (if in 1918 Russia had 150 million people, then under constant annual growth of x%, there should have been Y million people in 1953. If there were fewer people, it's because Stalin had them killed).

Meanwhile the number of Soviet civilians exterminated during Barbarossa is around 10 million.

Anyway, both regimes were equally awful for broad groups of innocent people, and superficially beneficial for other, more fortunate groups, while putting a constant pressure to conform to the totalitarian norms on any individual. Ultimately at least as many people were devastated at the news of Stalin's death as were happy.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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doverhog posted:

Indeed. Normative clothing is a signal to the man that you've grown old and are ready to surrender to his will.

Normative clothing is a sign that you have grown out of the teenage rebellion phase and are able focus on substance over style in your politics, and elsewhere.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Pick posted:

Stephen Fry's husband is way too young for it to not be gross. Although Stephen Fry was always pretty insufferable.

Stephen Fry has made a living our of having interns stream smart things for him to say into his earpiece. Except quite often those smart things happen to be extremely dumb and wrong.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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He has an extremely regressive aristocratic British voice. Every time I hear him or anybody using the same sort of accent, I instinctively begin to sharpen my guillotine.

Jerry Cotton posted:

That would be because he's an actor. His job on QI, for instance, was to appear smart and knowledgeable, not actually be either of those things.

That would be OK, except most people actually think he's the poster boy for what smart people are like.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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doverhog posted:

Ok Jerry. Name a writer that is good if Alan Moore is bad.

Tolstoy? I don't care about Moore either way, but lol if you think he ranks anywhere outside the decidedly mediocre part of the spectrum.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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doverhog posted:

So did you actually read Tolstoy, or pick his name from a list of classics to have someone you know is safe to call "good"?

Jerry, that's a fine opinion to have, but you didn't answer the question.

Yes, I have read Anna Karenina and War and Peace as well as his collected correspondence.

Anyway, I went with the one indisputable example. There are literally hundreds of contemporary authors who are leagues ahead of anything the trashy graphic novel genre has ever produced.


doverhog posted:

Any writer outside of superhero comics is good?

Not really, it's just that superhero comics are so bad they make everything else look great in comparison. Stephanie Meyer wouldn't be considered a real author under most circumstances, but put her next to a comic book, and suddenly she looks like the new Charlotte Bronte.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mu Zeta posted:

Fun Home and Maus too

doverhog posted:

Read Sandman, From Hell and Promethea and report back to the thread to be graded.

I've read Maus and some issues of Sandman, and really my reaction was "Why are they ruining this story by chaining it to these pointless visuals?"

Comics and visual novels take written fiction and visual arts and clip both of their wings to produce truly mediocre results.

doverhog posted:

From Hell, for example, is over 500 pages, in black and white, and about the police investigation (and freemasons and other stuff) of the Jack the Ripper murders in late 1800s London. The target audience is not teenagers, and there are no superheroes in it.

That My Little Pony Fallout crossover fanfic is like twenty thousand pages long and prides itself on being gritty.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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doverhog posted:

Yes, well if you feel that combining text and pictures is inherently bad, there's not really much to say to that, other than I don't agree. :11tea:

It's just that comics are the worst, most naive and superficial way to go about it!

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