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oldpainless posted:

Oh yeah? Give three reasons why

1) they make all our stuff
2) if it turns into a regular war they could easily defeat us because they can make way more stuff than we can
3) they’re getting pretty good at movies and I want to watch more of their movies

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What’s the counterpoint? The élan of American troops will be enough to overcome a force with vastly superior manpower and productive capacity?

Because a lot of countries have thought that in the past, and it doesn’t have a great track record.

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

Where is this fight taking place?

If it comes to actual shooting presumably it would be in the South China Sea.

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thetoughestbean posted:

Pretty much

Edit: I don’t think a war would be good in any way, I just think Gripweed doesn’t operate in reality besides what he wants to be true

I said China has more guys and can make more stuff than America. What part of that do you think is disconnected from reality?

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Runa posted:

Much like Gripweed, China also thought they could easily take the US and made very aggressive moves towards Taiwan as a result.

What they did not expect was to see outdated American surplus equipment allowing a much smaller and unprepared Ukraine to fight a much larger and more well-armed Russia to a near standstill. So, unsurprisingly, China felt the need to stop and reassess their actual chances.

That doesn’t seem accurate. China did military exercises near Taiwan just last year.

Edit: and Taiwan and Ukraine aren’t really comparable. Russia can’t blockade Ukraine. China could fully blockade Taiwan in 24 hours. All that outdated American equipment doesn’t matter when it can’t get to the place it’s supposed to go. So I don’t understand why you think China thinks Taiwan would be another Ukraine.

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Coolguye posted:

to be only slightly less dismissive, let me expand on this slightly

both economic performance and military performance hinge on a lot of coordination and communication expertises. china has a lot of problems with these expertises. you can see this in things like the chinese GDP constantly being revised downward from publicly released numbers because there is a giant, overriding problem with communication in China: it is outright incentivized to lie to your superiors in many cases, both civilian and state. there are more effects. but frankly, what i am talking about is so fundamental to understanding the situation that i genuinely mistook gripweed's position as a low-effort troll. the edit convinced me otherwise. at any rate, though, i'll wait until someone actually gives a considered, nuanced explanation as to why china is rising and will take the crown of the world this time, for serious bro, before i devote any more words to the topic.

Hmm, I hadn't thought of that. China's culture is inferior to our own, that is why they can never defeat us. That is an interesting take.

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Coolguye posted:

lol that isn't what i said and it's extremely telling that you read it like that

I'm not sure how to take "the Chinese would not be able to win a war against us because they are incentivized to lie at every level of their society" as anything other than a suggestion that Chinese culture is inferior to our own.

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Runa posted:

I read it as more of a statement about dysfunction in China's civil and military administrative structure, myself.

I can't believe that's what coolguye meant, because that would suggest that they believe America doesn't have similar or greater levels of dysfunction in our own civil and military administrative structure. And if they really meant that, well, smashcut to montage of the last ten years of American history.

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If Disney wants to revitalize the MCU, they need to drop the Kang storyline, put the multiverse stuff to the side, and go back to basics. Create an easy to understand hook that gets people interested again; vampires. Make the bad guy in every MCU movie a vampire. People would watch superheroes vs vampires. And the new Thanos, the new big bad guy they’re building up for the ultimate showdown? That’s right, it’s Dracula.

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Spider-Man vs a vampire.

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

The Blade movie has been in development hell for years and you think they could do more vampires?

Yes. Have Blade be like the anti-Thanos, the good guy they build up so everybody’s excited to see him finally throw down

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The Outwaters is a terrible movie.

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the layered leg armor on MK2 Astartes armor looks stupid

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The opening to Beethoven's Symphony #9 absolutely kicks rear end but I've never listened to the whole song because it's simply too long and doesn't have any lyrics

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doverhog posted:

They are both Hitler. I wish I could promise that Hitler will lose, but it's not in any way guaranteed.

We were supposed to be at the end of history, according to some idiot ( Francis Fukuyama), but no. Trump might be the 3rd hitler, so I'm glad I don't have kids.

Wouldn't Trump be the fourth Hitler?

Or are Netanyahu, Putin, and Trump so bad they make the original Hitler not even count as a Hitler anymore in comparison?

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Scientists have looked into it, those cats are stupid.

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