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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
i don't think i disagree with anything in clinton's deplorables speech

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Feb 18, 2012


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Badger of Basra posted:

half might be lowballing it

yeah

tha chapo boyz say it's more like 2/3 deplorable

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Irom posted:

That...is why you failed [/yoda]

it's hard to argue with, and just about the only thing i can remember her saying that wasn't "trumped up trickle down"-level nonsense. so of course liberal commentators freaked out about it at the time, lol

quote:

[the other half] are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they’re in a dead end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.

i think people are fundamentally not getting the "economic anxiety" thing. these trump voters are petty bourgeois, they're "anxious" not "deprived" — that's their neighbours, their wider communities, etc.

the opioid addicts aren't voting at all.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Badger of Basra posted:

was this a setup to get me to agree with them

:mrgw:

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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apologies, livingtrope

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/PissPigGranddad/status/800615318502641664

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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rip, rip, rip, rip

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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i'm also glad

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Disinterested posted:

these animals will all die soon

no

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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is there a nate argent who's predicting le pen will lose

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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wish people in the lyin' media would stop using "white nationalist"

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/lerdybines/status/801008599363268609

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Randler posted:

Nah, I think he's going for an "All Americans are nationalists, so why single out the white ones." woke-strafe.

they don't see nationalism as a bad thing, no. it's barely any stronger than "alt right"

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/NZParliament/status/801160085435101184

uh huh

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/800966830718390272
it can't fail

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAFZKcYn8qI

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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pictured: uspol

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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is an ambassador appointment an "i'm making you leave the country to kill your ambitions and stop you causing trouble for me" thing in the us?

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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rip

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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right, but ime ambassadorships get given out to retired politicians

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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@badge

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonnyc/status/801061519119286272

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Badger of Basra posted:

The hacked emails didn't help but IMO if they had run the exact same campaign BUT Hillary never had a private email server she would have won

i reckon being the subject of multiple fbi investigations didn't help her campaign

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Badger of Basra posted:

y'all should try working for the government

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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GhostofJohnMuir posted:

the fbi is a blatant fascist political tool

yeah, and americans love it

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Avshalom posted:

also when the fbi were like "HEY THERE'S NEW EVIDENCE WE'RE REOPENING THE CASE" like a week before the election and then "HAHA JUST KIDDING THERE'S NO NEW EVIDENCE, WELP HAVE FUN VOTING" at the absolute last moment even australian conservatives were like are you loving kidding me

ppl going "NO! not the sanctity of the fbi!" was pretty funny tho

Badger of Basra posted:

everyone in new zealand has a pension though, and free milk courtesy of big govt

quaffing a frosty 2L as we speak :cheers:

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Badger of Basra posted:

is every pension called a superannuation or only the one run by the government off payroll taxes

all of them https://fma.govt.nz/compliance/superannuation/

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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remember this from a couple of years ago, lol

Berke Negri posted:

the guy that i can't remember is the tankie or not is right on this, at least

it's thirdpartyview

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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i'm mad at the nz greens, again

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI_pMYtVSTE

as part of their continued journey to being the party of middle-class national voters who also like bicycles, they now support "sustainable" immigration (massive cuts)

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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GhostofJohnMuir posted:

they smell the nazi tide on the wind and adjust accordingly

at least this looks good compared to australia's concentration camp strategy

as i've always said, ecology is a worthless ideology on which to base a political movement. last election they dropped the 'left wing economics' bit of their platform to get more votes, and failed to get more votes :thumbsup:

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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GhostofJohnMuir posted:

the real pros know that it's left wing economics and virulent xenophobia that's the real winner

national socialism if you will

that's the 'new zealand first party' (if by left wing economics you mean mainstream 70s policy)

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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GhostofJohnMuir posted:

i await their collaboration with the trump administration

they're quite a diverse party

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/mikiebarb/status/801609526382358528

mikey

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/801586158689992704

:discourse:

'in which grew up in'

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Volkerball posted:

At work til 7 and all the bosses took vacation and nobody gives a poo poo about poo poo. What's a good YouTube documentary i haven't seen to watch on my phone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pDE4VX_9Kk

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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this owns:

Uber came to Parliament today hoping to win over MPs deciding what the future of the taxi industry will look like.

But the company's Australasian executives ran into some resistance from MPs who appeared to be struggling with the very concept of a disruptive ride-sharing business.

Appearing before Parliament's Transport Committee, Uber New Zealand general manager Richard Menzies tried to argue that the company should not have to adopt outdated taxi requirements like logbooks, signage and stringent driver and vehicle checks.

But first he was forced to explain to the committee, over and over again, that Uber was not a "rank and hail" taxi company.

National MP Alastair Scott was the first to bite.

"We're concerned that you could get some gypsy operators who are not licensed by anyone appearing on a taxi rank."

Labour MP Sue Moroney interjected, offering a more politically-correct term: "Cowboys".

"Cowboys, gypsies, whatever," Scott said.

Menzies politely explained that an Uber vehicle could only be ordered through its app.

"People can't simply spot at Uber and jump into random car," he said.

Labour MP Sue Moroney wasn't convinced.

"How do you know that? How do you know that people who are your drivers are not sitting at taxi stands or being hailed?"

Menzies, looking slightly bemused, said: "We don't use taxi ranks."

Green MP Jan Logie noted that the law change would allow Uber to use taxi ranks - how did Uber feel about that?

Menzies, again: "The way our system is currently set up, we don't need taxi ranks."

At that point National backbencher Paul Foster-Bell appeared to sum up the situation: "Do you think Parliament should be grasping that this is a different paradigm we are talking about?"

Menzies began spelling out the benefits of the company. By putting more people in fewer cars, he said, the company had reduced carbon emissions in New Zealand by 55 metric tonnes.

Moroney had more pressing concerns. Under the law changes, Uber cars would be able to use transit lanes on New Zealand motorways.

Wouldn't it be worth signing up as an Uber driver just to use transit lanes? she asked. And how could you tell whether it was an Uber car using a transit lane if it was unmarked?

For once, Menzies appeared to be caught off-guard. "I'm not 100 per cent familiar with all the details," he said.

As it was becoming apparent that no MP on the committee had ever used the Uber service, National MP and technophile Maurice Williamson piped up that he was a "massive fan".

But he did not favour the ordinary Uber, he said. He wanted to know when Uber New Zealand would roll out Uber Black - the company's VIP service.

By now, Uber's committee appearance had gone well overtime. But Moroney wanted one last shot, asking Uber whether it would actually follow any rules set by Parliament.

"All I want to hear is that you won't be breaking the law," she said.

Menzies raised his hands in front of his face, wordlessly, as the committee chairman brought the session to a close.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Swan Oat posted:

how can you tell it doesnt have a finished basement from the picture

nz houses generally don't have basements. we're in the midst of a housing crisis, and the government is selling off state houses 😂

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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kustomkarkommando posted:

You could always use the traditional line of selling housing stock to raise money to build more state housing

lol

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