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steakmancer
May 18, 2010

by Lowtax
Wouldn't mind making a tennis stadium to sodomize that guy!

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Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Just point where you want to go...

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
The only other time you see Violleo that sad is when his soccer team loses.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

It's how her species communicates

Oh drat, that was a bummer. But I guess mission accomplished because people are hella into the church now.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
I mean, is he dead for real, though? Because the show is called "The Young Pope" and isn't there going to be a 2nd season? Are they gonna get another young Pope to take his place?

That said, holy poo poo this series. Incredible

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009

He's passed out before, in the arms of Esther. I didn't read him dying necessarily in the last scene of the show.

remusclaw fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Feb 14, 2017

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro
drat, that was an amazing show...

quote:

Paolo Sorrentino is already writing the second season of The Young Pope. The news was confirmed by producer Lorenzo Mieli Wildside that with Sky, HBO, Canal +, Haute t Court TV and MediaPro has put together a 40 million euro budget for a production with great ambitions.

:neckbeard:

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

I totally thought he died as I was watching it. But season 2, so obviously not. Unless they pull some ressurection poo poo or something which I wouldn't put past this weird show.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Where was he giving that final speech?

Butt Reactor
Oct 6, 2005

Even in zero gravity, you're an asshole.
Just finished the last episode and now I know I made the right choice in buying a new TV just to watch this show. :homebrew:

Caufman posted:

I did notice that. In one of the shots, you can even see Las Mudas Cantina written on the front of one of the buildings.

Not surprising since they take place in the same universe.

Ha, had I cheated and read the first page I wouldn't have even posted this in hindsight. But some of us do try and follow rules, though :colbert:

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009
Great season finale----they really nailed every aspect that makes this show amazing in these last few episodes.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

nooneofconsequence posted:

Where was he giving that final speech?

That was St. Mark's in Venice. That looks like they really shot it there too.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
This thread combined with John Oliver name dropping it on LWT have convinced me to watch this, I finally have something to look forward to when I get home

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

CountFosco posted:

That speech is riddled with heresy. Absolutely riddled.
Yeah, I'm certainly no theologian but even though I'm an atheist I grew up in a 98% catholic country. This stuff right here?

quote:

You want to look me in my face? Go see God first!
I won't help you, I'm not gonna show you the way.
Search for it, find him... and when you have found God, perhaps you will see me as well.
"Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus", there is no salvation outside the Church. Wars were fought and millions died because the Church reserves for itself the role of sole guide and gatekeeper. Pope Luther here is in dereliction of his duty as top shepherd.

It was an awesome speech and just the thing a Pope would say if a Pope decided "it would be awesome if we started our own Catholic State of Latium and Campania", sure to bring out the zealots. But it felt outright heretical at several points.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

MeLKoR posted:

Yeah, I'm certainly no theologian but even though I'm an atheist I grew up in a 98% catholic country. This stuff right here?

"Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus", there is no salvation outside the Church. Wars were fought and millions died because the Church reserves for itself the role of sole guide and gatekeeper. Pope Luther here is in dereliction of his duty as top shepherd.

It was an awesome speech and just the thing a Pope would say if a Pope decided "it would be awesome if we started our own Catholic State of Latium and Campania", sure to bring out the zealots. But it felt outright heretical at several points.

I never noticed that he replaced his imaginary heresy from episode 1 with a different kind of actual heresy in his first speech!

God Hole
Mar 2, 2016

At times it feels like he's winging it but at others it feels like he's been playing the long con for like 30 years and knows exactly where he's going, which would invalidate his entire journey of self-discovery throughout the whole season. He's made it very clear he knows exactly how he presents himself and how he's perceived by others, so some of these "revelations" he's had about his duty as pope would have been arbitrary and beneath his intellectual station. Really makes one wonder what his ultimate goal is.

I'm really appreciating the symbolism in this show, in particular the one shot of him collapsing into Esther's arms in a way reminiscent of La Pieta, which received significant attention in the first couple of episodes.

What the gently caress did they do to the false prophet with the stigmata??

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Loved this show. Catholicism does and always will have a soft spot in my heart.

Hot Dog Day #82
Jul 5, 2003

Soiled Meat

Boon posted:

Loved this show. Catholicism does and always will have a soft spot in my heart.

Absolutely. I am a lapsed catholic and I ate this show right up, it was entirely in my wheelhouse.

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler
The last three episodes were incredibly moving. I'm going to start a rewatch tonight.

steakmancer
May 18, 2010

by Lowtax
I love how unserialized the show was

Lord of Garbagemen
Jan 28, 2014

Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!
The Young Pope and Jude Law were cool and good.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
I found it pretty hard to slog through the first few episodes of this show, tedious, tedious, tedious. Like Wes Anderson, but oh god, tedious.

But I did and really ended up liking it. What a bizarre and beautiful show!

I dont know why the world really needed Italian Wes Anderson Magical Realism An Orphan Becomes A Human Being As Pope, but it was a joy to watch (and listen to! That music!).

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/832515006109458432

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

I'd like to imagine he did the globe thing.

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009

hakimashou posted:

I found it pretty hard to slog through the first few episodes of this show, tedious, tedious, tedious. Like Wes Anderson, but oh god, tedious.

But I did and really ended up liking it. What a bizarre and beautiful show!

I dont know why the world really needed Italian Wes Anderson Magical Realism An Orphan Becomes A Human Being As Pope, but it was a joy to watch (and listen to! That music!).

How is it in any way like wes anderson

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
It's just shorthand for "I don't watch a lot of movies and it's sorta quirky and arty" I think haha. Someone said the same thing about the first ep of Legion in that thread.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

dangerdoom volvo posted:

How is it in any way like wes anderson

How is it in any way not like wes anderson?

Have you ever seen his movies? How everything is framed in them? The scenery? Quirky characters? Deadpan dialog? Kids? Music?

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Feb 17, 2017

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Escobarbarian posted:

It's just shorthand for "I don't watch a lot of movies and it's sorta quirky and arty" I think haha. Someone said the same thing about the first ep of Legion in that thread.

No, no, no.

Half the scenes in the young pope were the sort of very-centered, very symmetrical, very painstakingly staged and framed shots that you see all the time in wes anderson's "symmetry porn."

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Feb 17, 2017

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
yes....it's like wes anderson because characters are in the middle of the frame and there are 'kids' and 'music'

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Escobarbarian posted:

yes....it's like wes anderson because characters are in the middle of the frame and there are 'kids' and 'music'

Yeah escobarbarian, that must be it!

Anyway watch a couple Wes Anderson movies then watch a couple episodes of The Young Pope. Pay I guess really close attention?

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Feb 17, 2017

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Do you think people are unfamiliar with Wes Anderson? This isn't like him. Just very broadly, Wes Anderson stuff is more kitschy and cute, and this is more art house. And I'm not putting down what Wes Anderson does. He's great

Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Feb 17, 2017

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009

hakimashou posted:

Yeah escobarbarian, that must be it!

Anyway watch a couple Wes Anderson movies then watch a couple episodes of The Young Pope. Pay I guess really close attention?

I love that your first response is to go "oh well you must not be familiar with wes anderson". thats good poo poo

Pokemaster #421
Jul 14, 2005

For a swift one at the wrist, down on the old main drag.

As soon as I read this tweet I started hoping and praying it turned out to be Burke and what do you know, it was! Bahahaha that's wonderful news. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy. It would be pretty rad if Francis secretly watches this show and was like hell yeah that's the way to deal with some assholes and poof off Burke goes.

What a drat fine show. I wasn't sure at all what to make of it after the first 2 or 3 episodes but almost every scene thereafter just had me completely captivated. Can't wait to see what they do with season 2

JUST MAKING CHILI
Feb 14, 2008
I just realized that Cardinal Marivaux (who is selling the sainthood of the Blessed Juana to the pope?) is played by the same actor that was Reichsminister Heusmann in Man in the High Castle.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

hakimashou posted:

Yeah escobarbarian, that must be it!

Anyway watch a couple Wes Anderson movies then watch a couple episodes of The Young Pope. Pay I guess really close attention?

this is the best thing anyone's ever said to me on SA. I love Wes but this just ain't him dude

plus if we're gonna compare this to non-mainstream film work i would probably go for the work of the european arthouse director who actually created and directed this show, personally

wukkar
Nov 27, 2009

Gonz posted:

An American cardinal who opposes Pope Francis has just been sent to the remote Pacific island of Guam
Beauty at high humidity is still beauty.

Caufman
May 7, 2007
True as that may be, it could not be said they are the wonderful words of the Nobel laureate Joseph Brodsky.

Astrochicken
Aug 13, 2007

So you better go back to your bars, your temples
Your massage parlors!

I'm at episode 5 and I'm happy to see voiello's blackmail plot was fouled so handily. Also, Diane keaton is so terrible in this. I thought she could act.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Am I high or something? I tried to watch this and it was the most self-indulgent, tryhard, meandering poo poo I've ever seen?

Born and raised Catholic by the way, that part wasn't the problem.

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Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler
High or not stick with it homie, it's good.

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