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Sazabi posted:The melee doesn't feel anywhere near satisfying as vermintide, and it's a real simple press 'Q' to melee and nothing more except a block button. The guns feel but save the default auto cannon which recoils all over the place. Regular bolters are good, plasma cannons are better. It seems a really odd decision to make this primarily single player. Partly because it's a harder job, because then you have to code non-retarded bots, partly because it'll inherently have less replayability, and partly because they've built 90% of what they need to make it into Vermintide In Space even if that isn't what it was originally planned to be. Plus we already have a single-player Space Hulk video game that's only a couple of years old. I guess I'll see what the consensus is like on release but I'm not nearly as hyped as I was. Oh well. edit: it might even be worth adding a line at the very start of the OP saying "THIS ISN'T VERMINTIDE IN SPACE" and/or changing the thread title, because I think a lot of people are expecting it to be exactly that.
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Zephro posted:Thanks, that's really helpful. Fixed spawns really do sound like they'd kill the replay value, as does the non-persistent levelling. Even if it doesn't have a ton of replayability, I would still much rather play through the campaign with humans than bots. I hope that is at least possible. I'm also thinking the non-persistant leveling was just an artifact of the beta? They also didn't even include all the weapons (no flamer), which further leads me to think the beta was very targeted towards certain issues.
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Ended up refunding it. I know it's a beta so the stability issues, soft locks, etc. will hopefully be gone by launch, but the gameplay itself seemed really boring. Teamwork and coordination didn't really feel all that necessary and the game play felt clunky, slow, and unfun. Compared to Space Marine everything seemed weightless and floaty despite the fact that you're supposed to be in terminator armor. In Space Marine you were a power armored super soldier crushing your way through combat with weapons that felt like elephant guns and doomsday devices, in this it felt like I was firing weapons with the visual and audio oomph of an electric feather duster. The assault cannon was extremely disappointing as was the plasma cannon. I feel that the only audio thing they got right was when someone is firing one of their guns in a far off hallway. I didn't feel like I was in a huge fuckoff tank suit mowing things down or making a final stand against overwhelming odds. Part of what makes L4D and Vermintide fun is that you actually legitimately need your teammates there to bail you out or cover for you while you're doing something. In this there doesn't seem to be any equivalent to hunters, jockeys, pack masters, gutter runners, etc. that require the team to stick together and actually cover each other. It doesn't feel like the sort of gameplay where turning on friendly fire, reducing your hp, and increasing the enemy hp will make the game more fun so much as it will just lengthen the time you have to spend in the hallway walking simulator. It's a huge disappointment with how much I like Vermintide, Space Marine, and EYE. Beyond the honeymoon period that lasted the first hour I was as bored as the voice actors were. Commoners fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Dec 1, 2016 |
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Skandranon posted:Even if it doesn't have a ton of replayability, I would still much rather play through the campaign with humans than bots. I hope that is at least possible. I'm also thinking the non-persistant leveling was just an artifact of the beta? They also didn't even include all the weapons (no flamer), which further leads me to think the beta was very targeted towards certain issues. The non-persistent levelling is a deliberate choice to make it feel more like a MOBA because reasons. The flamer is omitted from multiplayer partially due to performance issues but also because it was apparently super overpowered.
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Mystic Cave zOWNd posted:it was apparently super overpowered. I see no problem with this.
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I really haven no problem with the lack of persistent leveling and given the design in the game we've seen so far it seems way more consistent with that then some hypothetical design; there really aren't enough advancement options to make persistent leveling (as we currently see it anyway) enjoyable. As a vehicle to gradually amp up encounters as the game goes on, I think it works pretty well. L4D had no persistent advancement.
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Mendrian posted:I really haven no problem with the lack of persistent leveling and given the design in the game we've seen so far it seems way more consistent with that then some hypothetical design; there really aren't enough advancement options to make persistent leveling (as we currently see it anyway) enjoyable. As a vehicle to gradually amp up encounters as the game goes on, I think it works pretty well. L4D had no persistent advancement. Neither does Vermintide, really. If Deathwing has the in-game leveling scheme, paired with loot like Vermintide, could be very interesting.
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Does it seem like this will go the same way as Vermintide and eventually come to the Xbox One? It seems the status of if it's pc only or not has changed every time some progress is made in this game, and it would be really nice to play it. It tickles the long dormant part of my brain that enjoyed Vengeance of the Blood Angels far too much.
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ravinghobo posted:Does it seem like this will go the same way as Vermintide and eventually come to the Xbox One? Their main website has been saying for a while "coming ton consoles in 2017" so I would say your chances are good.
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Looks much better and sounds nicer too. That shotgun bolter sounds excellent. Could still use some heavier footsteps and whining servomotors. The redone voices remind me of the Space Hulk videos by FlashGitzAnimation. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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Does this game have psychic phenomena when you do your Librarian-stuff? Perils of the Warp?
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The Lone Badger posted:Does this game have psychic phenomena when you do your Librarian-stuff? Perils of the Warp? Not the the Librarian that I saw. I think the hybrid psykers can blow up when killed, though I cannot confirm.
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The voices are much better and it looks like you can in fact control individual units so that's cool. Maybe this'll actually be ready for a full release by this time next year.
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Elendil004 posted:Game is like 33 bucks on steam, less on GMG, but is it good? I played the beta a bit. Shooting feels good. Looks to be lots of guns. Feels fun. I have high hopes.
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Elendil004 posted:Game is like 33 bucks on steam, less on GMG, but is it good? Beta felt like a pre-alpha. Ran like poo poo on my i5 w/ 970 and 8gbs of ram. UI's pretty bad, shooting is merely ok, and it just honestly doesn't feel like what I expected a Space Hulk FPS to play like at all.
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Werix posted:Game is delayed until next Wednesday the the 14th so they can work on more bugs. Thank loving god, they should just delay it until some time next year instead.
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Deakul posted:Thank loving god, they should just delay it until some time next year instead. whoa man sick burn
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Here, I'll actually post a link to their announcement. I loved EYE so much that these folks have enough goodwill built up that I'm fine with it. If you take them at their word they've already done a lot of optimization for the performance issues. I'd rather a company come clean like this and delay over poo poo like Batman Arkham Knight or Dishonored 2 happening.
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They're confident enough in their release date that they did a Launch Trailer for Wednesday.. The stuff in the first like 30 seconds is new, but the rest of it comes from their better "Rise of the Terminators Trailer from last year.
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Deakul posted:Preordered this garbage fire and am fully anticipating a same day refund when it releases. You sure do complain a lot about this game, maybe it's not for you??
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Mr. Crow posted:You sure do complain a lot about this game, maybe it's not for you?? It's Space Hulk/40k related, it is definitely for me. 
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Mr. Crow posted:You sure do complain a lot about this game, maybe it's not for you?? To be fair, his entire posting history looks to be one huge complaint.
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Skandranon posted:To be fair, his entire posting history looks to be one huge complaint. Yeah, true, everything is pretty poo poo.
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If you're getting this because it's 40k then don't be surprised when you get a streum on game and not whatever space man poo poo you're hoping for. Anything from this developer should be treated as hilarity that sometimes miraculously turns into a good game; as a pile of legos which you hurl against the wall and rarely, somehow, falls to the ground perfectly assembled into a lego masterpiece, but which is far more likely to just leave a bunch of pieces spread around the room that hurt your feet when you step on them. One time in ten the legos will tell you that you got a 4/10 on kladuum's ladder.
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Technical concerns are definitely valid and I think a lot of us are worried about that. Shadow warrior 2 is the only game I've played recently that looked good and also wasn't a technical mess. It's getting really bad in general. Almost no one seems to give a poo poo about optimization anymore.
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Digirat posted:Technical concerns are definitely valid and I think a lot of us are worried about that. Shadow warrior 2 is the only game I've played recently that looked good and also wasn't a technical mess. It's getting really bad in general. Almost no one seems to give a poo poo about optimization anymore. I think a lot of that is because PC seems to be an afterthought these days with larger publishers where the game is primarily coded for consoles and shipped out to a third party to be ported over. This isn't every case, since many big name publishers have great optimization too. It is just the reality of the marketplace; there are more consoles than gaming rigs, so you go where the market is. Shadow Warrior 2 (which I loving loved) was made by a smaller team who was focused on PC. That is the same with deathwing here. Part of it is I think streum on isn't as good at programing as others. But drat they got great art direction.
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It's also because game budgets are ballooning and the cuts are always made to testing before the release. The multiplayer is not the focus despite being the big selling point is giving me second thoughts on this.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:It's also because game budgets are ballooning and the cuts are always made to testing before the release. It's easier to tack on multiplayer changes post release than it is to redo the campaign. Obviously we know nothing about the campaign and it may be poo poo and repetitive, but I'd rather they do what they're doing than the reverse. Putting out functional multiplayer AND singleplayer is obviously ideal but budget concerns etc. That being said I do hope they come back and improve multiplayer, I'm hoping it can be my friends new co-op game. I'm looking forward to this despite not playing it; haven't pre ordered thought given the technical issues and potential for repetitive gameplay. How long can you refund a game in steam and how many refunds so you get?
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Mr. Crow posted:It's easier to tack on multiplayer changes post release than it is to redo the campaign. If you have less than 2 hours playtime, can refund. Might be a 30 day limit on that, not sure (I could refund 75% of my library otherwise...). I'm hopeful for the multiplayer. The beta had bugs, but I thought it felt like how it should to plod around in Terminator armor and shoot Xenos. If they fix the netcode, I can see this being a fun multiplayer experience for at least 100 hours for me.
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Skandranon posted:If you have less than 2 hours playtime, can refund. Might be a 30 day limit on that, not sure (I could refund 75% of my library otherwise...). Hmmm I might just pre order for the discount and if it runs like poo poo and/or limit playing it till reviews come out to potentially refund it then. Thanks. Did they use the voxel voice modulation for the in-game voice chat? Would be cool af in multiplayer.
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Elendil004 posted:Game is like 33 bucks on steam, less on GMG, but is it good? it's not 33 bucks good in my opinion.
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