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HazCat
May 4, 2009

Halloween Jack posted:

I could explain at length the difference between Giger's work and tentacle porn. But I've been around the Internet long enough to know that when someone makes these false equivalences, they're trying to trick you into talking to them about their favourite porn forever.

:justpost:

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Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Giger's advice about trying not to master the airbrush since you'll suck at it is top tier pro tip.

quote:

Stay away from the airbrush. You'll never master it, hardly anyone ever has.

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

I'm waiting for someone else to use the words 'transgressive art' in defense of Kingdom Death. Once they do, I think it'll be bingo.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
KD missed the mark by not going for transgressive fiction.

"John was worried about his student loans and, of course, the doorway to the death dick dimension in his grandmother's old wardrobe."

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



why are rape games and titty models the only kind of "art" these people worry about being censored

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
I wouldn't hang Anima Mia or The Fisherman's Wife prints on my wall either

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Halloween Jack posted:

I could explain at length the difference between Giger's work and tentacle porn. But I've been around the Internet long enough to know that when someone makes these false equivalences, they're trying to trick you into talking to them about their favourite porn forever.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

I wouldn't hang Anima Mia or The Fisherman's Wife prints on my wall either

DING DING DING DING DING DING DING

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

do the balls come with a pin-up model

HazCat
May 4, 2009

DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:

do the balls come with a pin-up model

Nope.

But you can get a pinup model who literally represents a giant ball of poo poo.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer

Cat Face Joe posted:

why are rape games and titty models the only kind of "art" these people worry about being censored

Because it's a slippery slope, mang.

Just don't ask why it's slippery.

Wazzu
Feb 28, 2008

Are you sure I'm winning the Rumble? That does'nt seem right.....

HazCat posted:

Nope.

But you can get a pinup model who literally represents a giant ball of poo poo.



I almost don't get why Poots doesn't make it easier for people to use the pinup versions of the monsters by just offering Pinup Dung Beetle kit for people who don't want any monster in their game, just sexy ladies.

But he knows that people are willing to pay all of the money. Dung Beetle Knight - $30. Pinup Knight and Dung Ball - another $30. Give it time and pinup white lion, pinup screaming antelope etc. will be released until it can just be sexy people fighting in a sexy wasteland of sexy death.

Cat Face Joe posted:

why are rape games and titty models the only kind of "art" these people worry about being censored

I think the only think censoring Poots is his wife and possibly friends.

Unless Kickstarter actually has a thing where your Titty Miniatures can be erotic/ridiculous, but NO NIPPLES

Wazzu fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Mar 14, 2017

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Cat Face Joe posted:

why are rape games and titty models the only kind of "art" these people worry about being censored
People also get quite sensitive about you censoring their rape/titty anime as well thank you very much.

Also congrats to the OP. Even if the game is gross at least you didn't close down the thread like a big baby when people started making fun of it. That same level of courage was not displayed by the Age of Sigmar OP who closed the thread when someone actually played the game and broke down why it was awful.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
the op hasn't posted in this thread since posting the op

JackMann
Aug 11, 2010

Secure. Contain. Protect.
Fallen Rib
I made this thread purely to get Kingdom Death discussion out of the TG Kickstarter thread. By all means, make all the fun out of Kingdom Death.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Wazzu posted:

But he knows that people are willing to pay all of the money. Dung Beetle Knight - $30. Pinup Knight and Dung Ball - another $30. Give it time and pinup white lion, pinup screaming antelope etc. will be released until it can just be sexy people fighting in a sexy wasteland of sexy death.
See this sounds great until you realize there's no Jojo or Tom of Finland miniatures doing impressive poses with their dicks 'n balls hanging out everywhere. I would play that game with my friends in a local game store and we would not be ashamed.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Ah so this is like the second AoS thread that was posted by someone who isn't a thin skinned baby.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Chill la Chill posted:

See this sounds great until you realize there's no Jojo or Tom of Finland miniatures doing impressive poses with their dicks 'n balls hanging out everywhere. I would play that game with my friends in a local game store and we would not be ashamed.

um excuse me



it's equal, and art

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


That's ONE pair of balls. :mad:

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
This is a MATURE game for MATURE gamers, thank you very much.

Now let me tell you about how I punched a lion in the ding dong :heysexy:

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Chill la Chill posted:

See this sounds great until you realize there's no Jojo or Tom of Finland miniatures doing impressive poses with their dicks 'n balls hanging out everywhere. I would play that game with my friends in a local game store and we would not be ashamed.

There are a couple of scantily clad men currently extant and two more male pinups coming with exposed rear end as some peek at base+shaft. To their credit they are trying to branch into a broader spectrum of pervert.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Yeah gently caress it im selling my copy for like 600 bucks when it comes lol

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


mango sentinel posted:

There are a couple of scantily clad men currently extant and two more male pinups coming with exposed rear end as some peek at base+shaft. To their credit they are trying to branch into a broader spectrum of pervert.

Nice. It'll probably still be really expensive but if they're in Jojo poses I might be down.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Chill la Chill posted:

Nice. It'll probably still be really expensive but if they're in Jojo poses I might be down.

Actually more than I remembered there are male pinup versions of Dung Beetle Dancer, Screaming God, Goblin King, Nightmare Ram and maybe more. Sexy poses though, no JoJo.

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?
I've been watching Woolie's playthrough of K:D on YouTube (they're only one full hunt in so far, but it's certainly entertaining to watch), and that got me to start browsing through the game on Tabletop Online. Now, I know thread opinions on the game, and pretty much agree with the consensus, but setting aside the (glaring) problems with the setting, propensity for random gently caress-you dice rolls, and the need to farm encounters repeatedly, there's definitely some cool stuff that it has going on under the hood. I hope someone picks up its monster and AI design and builds a different shell around it.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

The Lord of Hats posted:

I've been watching Woolie's playthrough of K:D on YouTube (they're only one full hunt in so far, but it's certainly entertaining to watch), and that got me to start browsing through the game on Tabletop Online. Now, I know thread opinions on the game, and pretty much agree with the consensus, but setting aside the (glaring) problems with the setting, propensity for random gently caress-you dice rolls, and the need to farm encounters repeatedly, there's definitely some cool stuff that it has going on under the hood. I hope someone picks up its monster and AI design and builds a different shell around it.

I don't think anyone would disagree that the game has some interesting concepts. I think some of those are going to be seen in the Dark Souls game, though I haven't been following up on that, and some of those concepts may/may not show up in Level99's Seventh Cross might scratch some of the same itches.

Someone could easily mod the base game to enable more meaningful decisions, but given the fact that the game costs a billion dollars and has the subject matter that it does I doubt someone will. Coming up with a game with the same AI/hit location/survival feel without all the muck in both design and gameplay (and not having it cost a billion dollars) would be a home run.
Gloomhaven seems to have a lot of the same feel, though obviously much different gameplay design. Looks like people are really liking that one so far.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

The Lord of Hats posted:

I've been watching Woolie's playthrough of K:D on YouTube (they're only one full hunt in so far, but it's certainly entertaining to watch), and that got me to start browsing through the game on Tabletop Online. Now, I know thread opinions on the game, and pretty much agree with the consensus, but setting aside the (glaring) problems with the setting, propensity for random gently caress-you dice rolls, and the need to farm encounters repeatedly, there's definitely some cool stuff that it has going on under the hood. I hope someone picks up its monster and AI design and builds a different shell around it.

The biggest problem is that without a bunch of bullshit RNG, some sort of system to encourage people to repeat decks in one game, or both, making a separate and distinct deck for each and every monster is going to get expensive. The monster fighting part of Kingdom Death is WOW Raid The Board Game - and that's even been done with the WOW license before. It's cheaper to make and easier to play as a video game.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Wazzu posted:

I almost don't get why Poots doesn't make it easier for people to use the pinup versions of the monsters by just offering Pinup Dung Beetle kit for people who don't want any monster in their game, just sexy ladies.

But he knows that people are willing to pay all of the money. Dung Beetle Knight - $30. Pinup Knight and Dung Ball - another $30. Give it time and pinup white lion, pinup screaming antelope etc. will be released until it can just be sexy people fighting in a sexy wasteland of sexy death.

I'm pretty sure that's the game he actually wants to make, but didn't think would sell.

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

Cease to Hope posted:

The biggest problem is that without a bunch of bullshit RNG, some sort of system to encourage people to repeat decks in one game, or both, making a separate and distinct deck for each and every monster is going to get expensive. The monster fighting part of Kingdom Death is WOW Raid The Board Game - and that's even been done with the WOW license before. It's cheaper to make and easier to play as a video game.

After further examination, I finally noticed that there's all of seven unique monsters in the base game, one of which is the final boss. Eurgh. But you're right, I can't really think of how you could have more variety without shooting the price through the roof with a billion components.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

The Lord of Hats posted:

After further examination, I finally noticed that there's all of seven unique monsters in the base game, one of which is the final boss. Eurgh. But you're right, I can't really think of how you could have more variety without shooting the price through the roof with a billion components.

Again, Gloomhaven has more cards for a fraction of the price.
Millennium Blades has over 700 unique cards (with duplicates taking that into the 1000s) for a fraction of the price (no minis).

I'm not sure why Kingdom Death is so expensive other than artificial scarcity and bad planning.

eSportseXpert
Jun 24, 2005

Stupid fucking white man.
These guys don't even try do they?

quote:

The Fighter is 2nd result of a collaboration between Adam & Lokman, exploring some well established tropes in fantasy art [see if you can guess which]. Originally intended as a small line of Generic Hero Classes, the results were so compelling and un-generic... The worms feed off the water and salt in her body and thus she must consume copious amounts of both to stay alive but the resulting diet keeps her body swollen, obscuring her muscular frame.

http://i.imgur.com/Dm6t9pZ.png

Compelling and un-generic = sculptor got an erection.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


LordAba posted:

Again, Gloomhaven has more cards for a fraction of the price.
Millennium Blades has over 700 unique cards (with duplicates taking that into the 1000s) for a fraction of the price (no minis).

I'm not sure why Kingdom Death is so expensive other than artificial scarcity and bad planning.

I have no idea why CMON refuses to make more flower knights at a reasonable price on their shop. They see none of the money made by secondary market sales. :psyduck:

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

LordAba posted:

I'm not sure why Kingdom Death is so expensive other than artificial scarcity and bad planning.
High quality minis don't just spring forth from the ground.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

mango sentinel posted:

don't just spring forth from the ground
um

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I have to admit, after getting a look at the rulebook, I love all the interior art that's done after the style of Amano and Terada's work for Nintendo Power back in the day. It also reminds me of the best work from Pathfinder's item card sets.

Wazzu
Feb 28, 2008

Are you sure I'm winning the Rumble? That does'nt seem right.....

LordAba posted:

Again, Gloomhaven has more cards for a fraction of the price.
Millennium Blades has over 700 unique cards (with duplicates taking that into the 1000s) for a fraction of the price (no minis).

I'm not sure why Kingdom Death is so expensive other than artificial scarcity and bad planning.

13 Plastic injection miniatures, compared with high quality multi part plastic miniatures, 7 big monsters, 34 human (28 multi part).

An important part is also that people got excited for the first kickstarter, then more excited when the game came out because playing it, or heard the hype. Gloomhaven was some kickstarter game, first time designer, not amazingly regarded company.

FiestaNinja posted:

These guys don't even try do they?


http://i.imgur.com/Dm6t9pZ.png

Compelling and un-generic = sculptor got an erection.

There are lovely things about that model, the shield, the mix of hair and horns, the monster worm on its base. But the balloon tits, skimpy clothing and awful physics on the bottle ruin it.

eSportseXpert
Jun 24, 2005

Stupid fucking white man.

Wazzu posted:

There are lovely things about that model, the shield, the mix of hair and horns, the monster worm on its base. But the balloon tits, skimpy clothing and awful physics on the bottle ruin it.

All the super detailed bits sort of just hovering around bigboobanimebabe4.jpg.

e: body"horror"

eSportseXpert fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Mar 21, 2017

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

FiestaNinja posted:

These guys don't even try do they?


http://i.imgur.com/Dm6t9pZ.png

Compelling and un-generic = sculptor got an erection.

Look, surely you can't expect them to make a parasitic infection non-sexy. Be reasonable, here.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Yeah, making half the pin-up ones with wider waists/bigger ribcages would go a long way to making them HWP. Some people want cheesecake body pillows, some want dumb minis tho. Making them actually full of bugs and other things would be pretty baller.

quote:

Jojo or Tom of Finland miniatures doing impressive poses with their dicks 'n balls hanging out everywhere. I would play that game with my friends in a local game store and we would not be ashamed.
Agreedo

Halloween Jack posted:

I have to admit, after getting a look at the rulebook, I love all the interior art that's done after the style of Amano and Terada's work for Nintendo Power back in the day.

I could explain at length the relationship between Amano's work and tentacle porn. But I've been around the Internet long enough to know not to come between nerds and their love of video games.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
You picked a really weird hill to die on, bro.

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Vlaada Chvatil
Sep 23, 2014

Bunny bunny moose moose
College Slice

SaviourX posted:

the relationship between Amano's work and tentacle porn.

Please elaborate!

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