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mango sentinel posted:Most of the expansions and lots of the non pin-up figures have breasts out models experiencing varying levels of sexual menace, and lots of dick flopping monsters. The core rulebook is basically pornographic. There are two separate arguments floating around. I can get behind the 'plopping a boardgame full of dicks and tits on the table in front of some family and their young children is bodypillow waifu levels of gauche' argument, though I think the actual base boardgame lacks the dicks and tits; someone would have to go out and buy the alternate sculpts for that. The 'buying a game with tits and dickmonsters makes you an objectively bad person who wants to normalize rape' argument, on the other hand, is a tired moral panic on par with 'Dungeons and Dragons makes children worship satan', 'heavy metal makes kids sacrifice hobos', and 'DOOM trains people to murder'.
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That's why I used the term problematic and not immoral. Liking tentacle rape doesn't make someone a bad person. Refusing to critically examine that kink, calling people prudes when they do, and then insisting it's appropriate for general consumption makes someone a bad person.
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Mar 2, 2017 23:28
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gently caress it when this game comes in I'll just resell it at like 100% markup
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Mar 3, 2017 00:13
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:"it actually has significant artistic merit???" You're trying to shitpost, but that film in particular has had parts of it shown in galleries and studied in crit theory classes, not to mention the essays written about it. quote:Refusing to critically examine that kink, calling people prudes when they do, and then insisting it's appropriate for general consumption No one has done this in this thread. That's a whaddya call it, rapeman?
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Mar 4, 2017 21:18
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Is this thread the TG equivalent of the Patrick Rothfuss hatethread over on TBB?
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Lightning Lord posted:Is this thread the TG equivalent of the Patrick Rothfuss hatethread over on TBB? Yeah, with SaviourX playing the role of JivJov.
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Mar 5, 2017 00:44
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It's more like the star citizen thread
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Mar 5, 2017 14:11
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SaviourX posted:All I see are optional cheesecake chicks (and dudes), half of which wouldn't be out of place in cosplay, and one optional dick monster. It's an optional expansion in the second but Satan is represented by twin lesbian dickgirls in an incestuous relationship, each wearing bikinis made of tongues.
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Mar 5, 2017 15:31
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One of them has a skirt of dicks.
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Mar 5, 2017 17:08
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:It's an optional expansion in the second but Satan is represented by twin lesbian dickgirls in an incestuous relationship, each wearing bikinis made of tongues. The twin models aren't included in the expansion, they're still just ruleless pinup models. They're still by far some of the dumbest things in KD, but you can in theory play the Goya-inspired demon without needing to spend any time at all painstakingly highlighting dick skirts. On the other hand, there are two new expansions that do require dumb titty models - the Abyssal Woods includes the flower witch and her disciples, and the Red Witches comes complete with pigeon-toed busty girls in nothing but leather straps and cloaks. Weirdly, there are a lot of complaints about the latter (for blurring the line between game models and pinups), but not the former 
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SaviourX posted:You're trying to shitpost, but that film in particular has had parts of it shown in galleries and studied in crit theory classes, not to mention the essays written about it. B-b-b-b-but artistic merit!  Here, let me put it into perspective for you. 1) This 'game' is the biggest Kickstarter board game so far. The general public is going to look at this and say 'This is what people who boardgame like' 2) It's full of titty monsters with a side of rape, not to mention a load of other fetishes. 3) People look at this and say 'Yep, this confirms my suspicions about boardgamers.' Many people own or like things with questionable taste, but most people aren't delusional enough to claim artistic merit to justify the things they like. That's just trying to paper over a truth that you know is unpleasant. Menstrual Show posted:It's more like the star citizen thread 
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Mar 5, 2017 17:37
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Gotta love it when people cry for games being taken on artistic merit, then cry relentlessly when people apply the criticism that artistic merit entails.
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Mar 5, 2017 18:02
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SteelMentor posted:Gotta love it when people cry for games being taken on artistic merit, then cry relentlessly when people apply the criticism that artistic merit entails. Every time someone tries to excuse weird KD stuff with canon explanations, I just end up thinking about the lore behind the white speakers. They can't wear clothing because their skin is super hyper magically sensitive but they can wear leather straps tightened snuggly directly over their nipples, which they do because they suffer magical seizures and leather straps are useful in managing that... somehow. Also they are able to wear stiletto heels because ??? It's so obvious that the design (fetish-wear ladies who use blood magic) came first, and all the canon attempts at justifying it are just puerile trash.
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Mar 5, 2017 18:22
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Thermian arguments are amazingly tiresome and it's laughable nerds think they hold any water. See also: that chick from Metal Gear who has to trounce around in a bikini because she breathes through her skin.
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Mar 5, 2017 18:31
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you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds
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Mar 5, 2017 20:18
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SteelMentor posted:Thermian arguments are amazingly tiresome and it's laughable nerds think they hold any water. Didn't Kojima own up to that one and say it was because he wanted to see cosplayers?
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Mar 5, 2017 20:22
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds but, sadly, not your choice of board games
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Mar 5, 2017 20:36
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:but, sadly, not your choice of board games 
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Mar 5, 2017 22:52
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the most confusing thing about this whole experience, to me, is that even if someone were to want to buy all the rape miniatures with the intention of playing a barbie game with them, the board game is almost impossible to buy. was the second kickstarter supposed to fix this issue?
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Mar 6, 2017 08:44
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:the most confusing thing about this whole experience, to me, is that even if someone were to want to buy all the rape miniatures with the intention of playing a barbie game with them, the board game is almost impossible to buy. was the second kickstarter supposed to fix this issue? Somewhat. Poots has kind of horrible business sense, and while all signs point to him delivering what he's promised this time (through much more sensible pricing and less freebies), the first had a cancelled expansion, and he somehow made a loss on it. Hopefully in the fallout of this you'll be able to purchase the game.....but at $400 compared to $250 kickstarter, and other similar markups across the board. So with his massive influx of money it should be available, for people full of remorse for not getting it cheaper. The fact that people are sad they didn't get in on the $1,666 level really is a sign of how much people are willing to throw at Poots, as well as how much stuff he's released.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:the most confusing thing about this whole experience, to me, is that even if someone were to want to buy all the rape miniatures with the intention of playing a barbie game with them, the board game is almost impossible to buy. was the second kickstarter supposed to fix this issue? He printed 10,000 coresets in the first print run and was expecting them to last into 2017. Instead, he sold the last 50 in April 2016. He lined up production for another 10,000 before announcing the KS (plus 5,000 update packs for previous backers), but the backers alone have already pledged for more coresets than that. He's lined up an additional 15,000 and warned backers that it's going to push the timeline for delivery back 1-3 months. Edit: Double checked my sources. Had the numbers right but times wrong. The total number of KD:M core games will be 35,000 once this KS delivers. HazCat fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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Mar 6, 2017 12:06
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Adam Poots should be thrown into the rape pits to serve as a plaything for us, the gaymers.
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discount cathouse posted:Adam Poots should be thrown into the rape pits to serve as a plaything for us, the gaymers. iawtp quote:Thermian arguments are amazingly tiresome and it's laughable nerds think they hold any water. I had no idea what this was, but after watching a nerdbeard describe it in a video, I'm not sure that's what anyone (or me, at least) is doing. Appealing to board game lore is dumb. quote:the Abyssal Woods includes the flower witch and her disciples, and the Red Witches comes complete with pigeon-toed busty girls in nothing but leather straps and cloaks. Didn't see these. Sounds dumb. Optional and dumb. quote:dick skirts This kind of owns. Despite how fetishistic people get about dickgirls. Seems like comedy here. Most of my points haven't been: Appeal To Artistic Merit, There Can Be No Criticism (peep the gang tag). More like: People Getting The Vapors From Dick Monsters Need To Examine Their Reactions To Art. SaviourX fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 05:34
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peep the gang tag
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Mar 8, 2017 09:03
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this game just defies parody
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Cease to Hope posted:peep the gang tag gently caress you I turned on avatars, hoping that I had received a dickmonster gang tag.
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This is a cool title change
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I like how the biggest defender of the game in this thread is someone who has never played it nor kickstarted it, but just wants to whine about art.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:47
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I played a campaign, or almost all of one until the guy that owns it got shipped Stateside 3 weeks out of the month.
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Menstrual Show posted:gently caress you I turned on avatars, hoping that I had received a dickmonster gang tag. You can have an honorary GRRM one if you want. He writes about rape and dicks all the time.
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My gaming group bought this to play on off-weeks between other games and I haven't shown up for a game yet because of the material, despite the fact that we've been running as a group since about 2012 now. As funny as it may be to say so when I am already playing elfgames at least once a week, I consider Kingdom Death something that I would be truly embarrassed to tell other people I play. It is pretty much everything I have always tried to avoid in gaming.
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Cease to Hope posted:this game just defies parody Our latest tribe was named after those balls, in honor of the first Lion we faced and murdered. Murdered by critically hitting it in the sack and severing them.
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Mar 12, 2017 14:41
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what do they do when you consume them? do they give you the necessary strength and vigor to defend art
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Mar 12, 2017 16:02
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dont even fink about it posted:It is pretty much everything I have always tried to avoid in gaming. Rolling dice and shuffling cards. Writing on paper and moving monster figures on a board. The pinnacle of embarrassing things. quote:what do they do when you consume them? +2 to absorb context on a roll.
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SaviourX posted:Rolling dice and shuffling cards. Writing on paper and moving monster figures on a board. The pinnacle of embarrassing things. if you had just posted "you're all prudes" once you would've communicated just as much information and saved yourself a lot of effort
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Hey guys, late to this part of the discussion but can someone tell me if the phrase "virtue signaling" has been used yet or just heavily implied, thanks.
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Kai Tave posted:Hey guys, late to this part of the discussion but can someone tell me if the phrase "virtue signaling" has been used yet or just heavily implied, thanks. We have had pearl clutching, but I'm not sure about virtue signaling yet.
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SaviourX posted:Rolling dice and shuffling cards. Writing on paper and moving monster figures on a board. The pinnacle of embarrassing things. lion balls
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:what do they do when you consume them? do they give you the necessary strength and vigor to defend art Lion testes in the game are used to create a "Frenzy Potion".
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I could explain at length the difference between Giger's work and tentacle porn. But I've been around the Internet long enough to know that when someone makes these false equivalences, they're trying to trick you into talking to them about their favourite porn forever.
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