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PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

Monaghan posted:

It's sorta depressing that what should be a net benefit for humanity, in that we won't be stuck doing repetitive and monotonous tasks, will ultimately prove disastrous to huge segments of the population, because yay capitalism.

Pretty much. This transition period will be more or less 'communism or bust' for the majority of us. For the economic and political elites, it'll be a game of balancing greed vs. The need to not be eaten alive by poors. If they play it right, we all fall into abject poverty or die off squabbling about the ethics of hard work and capitalism until only the elite, their automated servants, and a relative handful of underclass workers remain.

It'll be like Wall-E except instead of a junkyard it'll be the mass graves of the underclass.

This is the real Agenda 21!

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PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

Mozi posted:

It's only disastrous if you hold to the idea that everybody must work a job for a living wage.

I don't think it's reasonable to expect that people must graduate college in order to have a chance at a healthy life - I think it's a bit crazy, actually. Not to mention my friends who are struggling with student loan debt a decade after graduation, working in a field completely unrelated to their field of study. But that's a digression.

Buckminster Fuller's quote is nice and all, but good luck getting humanity to shake the 'hard work is necessary to justify one's existence' mentality. The sub-upper class seem more than willing to blame each other, rather than the 1%, for the state of the economy and what's to come. Because one day they will be the one wearing the boot!

Cicero posted:

Programmers have been attempting to automate themselves out of a job since the first assembler. Thus far they've been spectacularly unsuccessful.

I at least half-agree: we'll probably see more and more jobs where people specifically value the human element. Live music is an obvious, currently-existing example of this; we've had excellent sound systems and recording capabilities for some time now, but people still pay lots of money to hear their favorite bands at live concerts. Similarly, even if computers were capable of being, say, therapists, in terms of raw analytical/language ability, you'd probably still want a human to be the one actually talking to you.

Art is not a viable employment solution because it requires popularity to be economically beneficial. It relies on the fact there's only 1 mega popular celebrity making music/movies/etc. for every million regular schlubs who consume it. There will be no art based economy to replace our current paradigm of work.

And the computer therapist doesn't have to replace a human expert entirely, but if it effectively handles many low priority concerns and simply problems effectively, then less human experts are needed as many are simply screened out.

PoizenJam fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Dec 1, 2016

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