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silence_kit posted:It's actually way cheaper to automate semi-skilled white collar jobs where the only inputs and outputs are information than it is to automate some blue-collar work where complicated, costly, high-maintenance mechanical contraptions are needed to do certain types of assembly. Confirm. It took me about 2-3 months to automate a process it that had 4 full time Business Analysts running it. I did it in my spare time of being the 5th person running the process.
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Cicero posted:To be fair, by this definition there's basically never a shortage of anything anywhere. Like you couldn't say "there's a shortage of [game console] at launch, it's sold out at stores" because hey there are some up on ebay for 2 grand, right? The nature of the word 'shortage' is that it means 'harder to find than expected/reasonable'. This is scarcity vs shortage. Shortage is when there isn't enough supply to equal demand at a given price point. Scarce means the amount is limited by something. Almost everything is scarce. The general rule of thumb is that baring wage controls there is never a shortage of labor, only a shortage of wages.
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Dec 8, 2016 16:37
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Taffer posted:You are describing basic algorithmic software which is typically written by a human. This is not how neural networks work. Take image processing for example, if you have a network built to detect fruit, you don't define the attributes of apples and bananas and use detection algorithms like edge finding and blob finders to narrow down the possibilities and classify the results, Instead you simply feed it data, tons of data. Let's say, 500 images each of a variety of fruits. Then, when you feed it a new image of a fruit, it will be able to narrow down the possibilities by using only data it has received as not an array of complex but ultimately dumb algorithms. It works similarly to the human mind, albeit not as sophisticated, requiring significantly larger amounts of data than a human to make a determination. https://studio.azureml.net/ If you have any MS account it is free. Play around with it a bit. They made it trivial to implement.
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Feb 27, 2017 02:24
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Malcolm XML posted:Hell Keynes predicted a 15hr workweek and yet we toil longer than that Keynes was wrong because he failed to realize that people have an infinite desire for consumption. If we wanted to live a 40s life style we could be working 15 hours a week.
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Jun 26, 2017 15:56
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mobby_6kl posted:It's not just that somebody could turn your lights on and off, by hacking them they might also a) use it to run denial of service attacks and b) gain access to other devices or services on your network. This is something that needs to be taken absolutely seriously and we should avoid making critical devices accessible to the whole internet. But I also don't think it will (or should) prevent progress. The Accessibility factor for IOT and smart home stuff is huge. The first guy I know who jumped on it was my uncle. His wife his problems with fine muscle control. She doesn't need to fumble with switches anymore she can simply tell Alexa to turn on the lights she wants on. If she is too hot or too cold she can adjust the Temp. She can make calls with out dialing a number or fumbling with menus.
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Jul 10, 2017 15:08
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Slavvy posted:Ok I see. No the problem is you've missed the uncounted times when goons get bizarrely angry about, and invested in arguing about, self driving cars. To the point where it just results in massive idiotic debates about one of the less significant automation technologies as far as impact on society goes. Which is why nobody wants to talk about them. Car talk leads to urban planning talk Urban planning talk leads to half the thread advocating genocide and/or other crimes against humanity the other half until there is a full meltdown and the probations and bans start flying.
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Dec 5, 2017 23:31
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Former DILF posted:its pretty funny that european capitalists classify things like pants as wealth when they're really more of a burden to people in warm climates Pants are a tool of capitalist oppression.
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Dec 8, 2017 17:20
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Trabisnikof posted:What's the big deal about people wanting jobs? Why most people were serfs or slaves for centuries and we can just return to that! I've wondered if UBI will end up being a return to serfdom. You're kept barely alive, unable to change or improve your situation, just in case you are ever needed for "service" to the state.
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Dec 8, 2017 21:56
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Doctor Malaver posted:This is interesting but I admit I don't have the stamina to read and digest the whole paper. Can someone with a stronger economy background comment? It points out that the report doesn't say that at all and that with in the report it shows that Automation is currently less of a factor in employment & wage trends than trade is. And that the report shows automation is trending down at the moment because at this point we're hitting diminishing returns on automation. TL;DR the media is still poo poo at reporting on science and their headline is usually dramatically overstating the argument in the paper.
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Dec 9, 2017 16:14
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StabbinHobo posted:economists are the ones telling us to dig up all the carbon and set fire to it in order to afford a new phone every 2 years instead of 3, generally speaking, gently caress their take I'm just going to assume this was an attempt at Cunningham's law and not the dumbest take in the last 10 years of D&D.
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Dec 9, 2017 17:16
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Doctor Malaver posted:They also say that it's not an issue just with that article but that generally speaking there is no evidence that automation leads to joblessness. That's a bold claim. It isn't though. We automated agriculture from 60% of the population to 5% in a century (1850 -> 1950) and were still at near full employment.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:09
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I wonder how corrosive to society it is that current american pop culture fiction has been stuck on dystopias for several decades. Dystopian fiction has been around a long rear end time. Metropolis has strong dytopian themes. Hell, even during the 60s and 70s dystopias and post-apocalyptic was a thing. I think there is a Chicken and the Egg aspect too. People have a feeling of decline. That feeling is reflected in Art.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:17
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1337JiveTurkey posted:It’ll definitely happen at the business level that some merchandising AI is gonna poo poo the bed and start ordering and stocking just the weirdest stuff until some human nominally supervising it notices. That started happening 10 years ago. Inventory Management isn't a strong AI, but it is still a rats nest of rules and exceptions that might as well be as far as the ability to understand it's logic goes.
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Dec 19, 2017 20:44
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Can't be much worse than the guy currently responsible for it. Always orders 1 or 2 pants in normal, human sizes for every clothing store and then 20 pairs of L, XL, XXL, XXXXL. The elephant pants then hang around unsold for months till they are shredded and turned into cheap wall insulation or something. Rinse& repeat for all eternity. Seriously, it's like they haven't looked at a BMI distribution of the pants buying population, ever. They account for this. They break it down by the location and the intended demographics. So you're buying clothes they expect overweight people to wear.
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Dec 19, 2017 21:26
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Mozi posted:"It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism." Because as long as someone is has something someone else wants and is willing to trade for it Capitalism will exist in some form. Even if it is two stone age tribes trading relics ripped from the ruins of skyscrapers.
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Dec 20, 2017 20:33
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His Divine Shadow posted:That's not capitalism. Whatever point he is trying make is so muddled it is completely incoherent. He doesn't seem to be able to separate the idea of "government support helps capitalism" with "government support is required for capitalism". Which is transparently bullshit if you look at black markets. Even in his Sweden vs Somalia example he completely undermines his own point. Private businesses seeking profit exist in Somalia. They're less successful than ones in Sweden, but they do exist.
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Dec 21, 2017 16:09
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Ormi posted:The only muddled thing in there is the off-hand equation of markets with capitalism. People have been exchanging and doing business in various forms certainly since the first (very non-capitalist) states were erected, and arguably before. But capitalism is a specific set of notions about how governments, trade, and people should intersect, or less prescriptively, do intersect under liberal property regimes. A working class requires enclosure of the commons, corporations require legal foundations, big businesses in general require the myriad internal improvements necessary to create a national market, and so on. People seem to be constantly shifting the goalposts of what defines capitalism to meet their ideology of "Capitalism is bad". It has shifted from trying to "profit from capital instead of labor" to "uses markets" now to "has a complex financial sector and large corporations" in the last couple of pages alone. Even under all of those things Capitalism existed long before the term did. You can find bronze age records about financial dealings, interest regulation, etc a long time before people even had a concept of economics. Xae fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Ardennes posted:Capitalism at least to me, it more than the existence of markets, but a particular relationship that developed during industrialization. Also, there are in fact different types of capitalism that need to be put into context. Part of the problem is that we're trying to force academic terms onto the real world. Right now there are thriving black markets in North Korea, probably the least capitalist state. In so far as its internal economy. But I also just shopped at an employee owned grocery store right in the beating heart of 'MURICAN capitalism.
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Dec 21, 2017 20:09
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Is the glum suicide jerk off fantasy that it'll be so cheap and ubiquitous it'll replace the job or artist or the the thirst for a grim future that it'll be so expensive no one but the rich can control it? Which ever is required for the fantasy at the moment. Internal consistency is for chumps.
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Dec 22, 2017 02:54
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Doctor Malaver posted:A friend who develops on MS Azure was telling me today how it's insane how many new services they announce on a weekly basis. Face recognition, face mood recognition, text summarizing, text analysis sentence by sentence... He tries to stay up to date but too much is going on. And it all costs like a fraction of a cent per use. And that's just Azure, AWS is bigger and better. https://studio.azureml.net/ Even if you aren't a developer see if you can log into that and run some of their basic training. In about 10 minutes you setup a machine learning algorithm that takes FAA data and uses it to predict the possibility that any given Flight will on time.
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Arglebargle III posted:Do you read history? Generally you announce your intention to end capitalism, overthrow the state in a violent revolution, execute or imprison any rich family who was dumb enough not to flee or defect, and seize all property for the state. Adjusted for the last couple of times it happened.
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Dec 23, 2017 15:32
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Nevvy Z posted:Why is it so important that this thread assign blame today with only the information reported in the news? Because the future of a multi-billion dollar industry is going to be decided based on shitposting on SOMETHING AWFUL DOT COM. Or because people are looking for a reason to get into a slap fight.
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Solkanar512 posted:All video is heavily processed to become human readable. Do the LIDAR sensors generate a visual recording by default?
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Condiv posted:it doesn't take a day or two days or three days to produce that rendering oocc Producing anything that can be used in a legal proceeding takes way more time than you think it does. You check and double check everything. You make sure everything used to generate the filing is checked in and backed up so you can reproduce it. Any changes made in the program that generated the filing are documented, reviewed and explained.
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Mar 22, 2018 16:19
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Condiv posted:No one said it’s as fast as raw camera footage. It’s deffo not a multi day process though. Like I said, you’re making it out to be more difficult than it is It is always multiple days to get things ready. And I already explained why to you. I did E-Discovery work for a couple of years. So I'm pretty informed about how long things take when you're talking about prepping data for potential legal proceedings. You don't know what you're talking about and you're wrong. Go away.
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Mar 22, 2018 19:24
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Condiv posted:that wasn't what was being discussed though xae. sorry, but try to not wander into a conversation if you can't keep up You're try to say the discussion about why things take time isn't relevant to why things take time?  You got caught running your mouth off about poo poo you don't understand. Go away and grow up a bit. Xae fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Mar 22, 2018 |
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Condiv posted:xae, we were discussing technical poo poo. no-one was talking about courtrooms or discovery or anything until you decided to interject. and quite frankly, i don't care about any of that You think that the footage and data won't be part of the inevitable lawsuit? You think Uber's lawyers aren't heavily involved in this and aren't running the show? Uber is dumb as gently caress, but even they can figure out that hitting a pedestrian is going to be a lawsuit.
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