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If you want to give an alternative to suburbs you are probably going to have to go a European if not Soviet route of high density public housing and inordinate investment in public transportation. In the case of the US, there was actually some improvement on the transportation front but really housing still remains the core issue.
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Neurolimal posted:A lot of problems around suburbs could be solved if we dismantled the housing industry and froze property values That would only work of course really if you had the state itself handle housing nearly completely. In cities, the issue is both an issue of supply but also price. Cicero posted:The problem is neither the left or the right is very on board with denser housing. The right isn't on board because they're scared of poors and public transit. The left is more on board in theory but in practice isn't on board because they hate when old things get demolished by ~*~for-profit~*~ developers and replaced with bigger, newer things (just look at how many people in SF scream about 'Manhattanization'). There is a natural resistance to density, but usually the resistance is harder when people don't feel like they are getting anything out of it. People in poor neighborhoods know they aren't going to be able to get an apartment in those new buildings, they aren't "meant" for them. That said, in the US public housing was purposefully poisoned back in the late 1960s by the federal pulling out of maintenance but other countries have had far more success. It is going to be ugly there is an actual solution there but the US just needs to be desperate enough to try it (give it a century). Ardennes fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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OneEightHundred posted:Automated carpooling is probably a more practical solution for suburbs where things are very scattered. The safe assumption to make is that while some people would use automated ridesharing, most of them would use their own cars because there is no detriment to doing so beyond today. If anything automated cars might make urban sprawl just a little bit worse. Also, getting rid of zoning laws without an massive increased infrastructure spending is nuts.
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blamegame posted:w/automated cars you can basically work while you're commuting, for some jobs anyway, so enjoy all that extra productivity citizen. i guess thats true for public transit but like, much less so? i dunno. anyway its not a bad thing neccesarily im just thinking about worst case scenarios The type of work you would be doing would probably be in the same in both cases, checking/writing emails on your phone.
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