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Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

quote:

Conclusions James Bond’s level of alcohol intake puts him at high risk of multiple alcohol related diseases and an early death. The level of functioning as displayed in the books is inconsistent with the physical, mental, and indeed sexual functioning expected from someone drinking this much alcohol. We advise an immediate referral for further assessment and treatment, a reduction in alcohol consumption to safe levels, and suspect that the famous catchphrase “shaken, not stirred” could be because of alcohol induced tremor affecting his hands.

http://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f7255

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CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


That's why you watch the movies instead, where he hardly even gets a chance to finish his drink

Pneub
Mar 12, 2007

I'M THE DEVIL, AND I WILL WASH OVER THE EARTH AND THE SEAS WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF ALL THE SINNERS

I AM REBORN
Pretty good lists, but I think people are overrating Dr. No (being the first thing in a good series doesn't mean poo poo to me).

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
Diamonds are Forever is the absolute worst, i'd rather watch Die Another Day. Diamonds is boring, Connery phones it in, no memorable lines, villains, stunts, or anything. The worst action scenes of the whole series and the worst, lazyest low budget special effects.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off
Hold on aren't we all forgetting that Quantum of Solace is the worst because of getting shafted by a writer's strike? It's sub Die Another Day.

Living Daylights is pretty cool, though. And at least Live and Let Die has the sweet boat chase.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Turbinosamente posted:

Hold on aren't we all forgetting that Quantum of Solace is the worst because of getting shafted by a writer's strike? It's sub Die Another Day.


No way is it worse. Die Another Day has a Madonna cameo.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off
Die Another Day is somewhat coherent. Still stupid as hell but much more comprehensible then Quantum.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Qos is alright. I dunno it's not all that special. Diamond are forever is absolute poo poo , excluding mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd

They own.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Yeah QoS isn't really a good movie but it isn't a loving terrible one, which makes it better than the worst half dozen of the non-Craig Bonds

The list guy is right about From Russia With Love tho holy poo poo what a movie

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




In qos, why were the bad guys hanging out in an explosive hotel?

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

bitterandtwisted posted:

In qos, why were the bad guys hanging out in an explosive hotel?

It's a James Bond film, that's why.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
First half of Die Another Day is loving great, then they enter Invisible Car land and WTF.

On Her Majesty's Secret Service is loving great, Bond can't keep his dick dry and fucks up the mission. Plus Diana Rigg as the only woman that could match Bond.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

The invisible car is great. Not sure why people had a problem with it. It was the lackluster battle between the two cars that was a travesty. That scene had all the flair and drama of a trade show demonstration. How do you make Bond Car vs. Bond Car that boring? Driving through the ice hotel was way better.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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It's when the invisible car comes in that the movie sucks. If the car was in a actually good movie, it might be okay.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

I don't remember enough about the movie to remember why it sucked. Terrible CGI parasurfing, lame car fight, and I feel like the North Korean --> British dude makeover was a bit of a stretch but everything else is hazy.

monkeytennis
Apr 26, 2007


Toilet Rascal

Remulak posted:

First half of Die Another Day is loving great, then they enter Invisible Car land and WTF.

On Her Majesty's Secret Service is loving great, Bond can't keep his dick dry and fucks up the mission. Plus Diana Rigg as the only woman that could match Bond.

Plus the best theme music of any Bond file, ever. But yeah, Diana Rigg is like a 13/10 in that film :swoon:

https://youtu.be/LfjL9uX2leg

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

I'm convinced Maurice Binder had the best movie job in the world for two decades.

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



The ones with Joe Don Baker are all p. good. Also, the one with Everett McGill.

Really, the only one I outright hate is Diamonds Are Forever. It's dogshit, and not in a fun way, like Die Another Day is.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
Diamonds are Forever had a Shirley Bassey theme song, and it's pretty much a rule that no Bond film with a Shirley Bassey song can be The Worst.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Well What Now posted:

Diamonds are Forever had a Shirley Bassey theme song, and it's pretty much a rule that no Bond film with a Shirley Bassey song can be The Worst.

Well yeah because A View To A Kill and Spectre exist.

DIA is right up there with them though.

marioinblack
Sep 21, 2007

Number 1 Bullshit
Die Another Day is everything horrible about Star Trek: Into Darkness turned up to 11. Plus the villain is basically just an entitled rear end in a top hat and not memorable in any way. Then you get dumb para-surfing away from a space laser which sounds like something an 8 year old thought would be the coolest poo poo ever. The second especially the third act of it is some of the worst poo poo I've seen.

I will say it doesn't have the dumbest thing ever in a Bond movie. That belongs to using a loving slide whistle during a car jump.

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Die Another Day pretty much couldn't decide whether it wanted to be a gritty modern military take on Bond, an camp tribute to the 60's, or video game 90's X-Treme Bond. So it was some terrible mismatch of all three.


But the phrase "X-treme 90's Bond" is pretty much all anyone needs to know about that movie.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Die Another Day and Spectre are both garbage and Spectre even did it's damnedest to retroactively ruin the good Daniel Craig movies too which was unforgivable imo.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

CelticPredator posted:

Well yeah because A View To A Kill and Spectre exist.

DIA is right up there with them though.

Diamonds Is Always?

Die Inother Ay?

Dr. Isn't Absolute?

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
i was gonna watch some bond movies but amazon prime lost the rights to hulu. lol like i'm giving hulu money.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off
Wait why was Spectre poo poo? I never got around to seeing it because I am the only person on Earth who doesn't really like Daniel Craig all that much and didn't like Casino Royale '07. (The book was waaaaay better).

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
Roger Moore is the worst James Bond but that's because so many of his movies just kinda suck compared to other Bond movies so it's not really his fault.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

egon_beeblebrox posted:

Really, the only one I outright hate is Diamonds Are Forever. It's dogshit, and not in a fun way, like Die Another Day is.
Bullshit, it's terrific fun.

It had Kidd and Wynn, my favorite gay-coded baddies, and a constant series of fuckups by EVERYBODY. Off the top of my head:
* Bond dodges a mirror and crashes, getting captured.
* Bond does an elaborate breakin to the baddies' HQ then drops right in as expected ending up at gunpoint.
* Bond then shoots the WRONG Blowfield.
* Kidd and Wynn throw him in a frigging incinerator but don't stick around to make sure it finishes.
* SAME THING with an oil pipeline.
* The high-tech "cassette" tape is swapped.
* The very normal Howard Hughes analog shows up with no reason for being a hermit.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Baron von Eevl posted:

Diamonds Is Always?

Die Inother Ay?

Dr. Isn't Absolute?

lol

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Turbinosamente posted:

Wait why was Spectre poo poo? I never got around to seeing it because I am the only person on Earth who doesn't really like Daniel Craig all that much and didn't like Casino Royale '07. (The book was waaaaay better).

Despite its bad rep for reasons of plot and pacing, it's actually an alright movie. Like 3/5. Lots of brilliant cinematography if you're into that kind of thing.

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

egon_beeblebrox posted:

Really, the only one I outright hate is Diamonds Are Forever. It's dogshit, and not in a fun way, like Die Another Day is.

Maybe it's because I grew up in and have subsequently grown to hate the American Southwest, but something about seeing Bond tooling around Nevada is painfully unappealing to me. Like, ooh, Bond's exotic caper where my grandma goes on vacation, yeah, that's fun.

Come to think of it, it's actually probably the only movie I've ever seen that manages to make Las Vegas seem boring.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Turbinosamente posted:

Wait why was Spectre poo poo? I never got around to seeing it because I am the only person on Earth who doesn't really like Daniel Craig all that much and didn't like Casino Royale '07. (The book was waaaaay better).

It's not that it's necessarily completely bad but it's a dramatic change of tone from the other Daniel Craig movies. It's much more like a silly Roger Moore movie, where most of the plot is advanced through crazy coincidences and Bond is back to having superpowers and everything works out for him. At one point he shoots down a helicopter with a pistol with like two bullets.

I dunno I only saw Spectre once but I was rolling my eyes the entire way through because the plot was nonsense, none of the characters' actions and choices made any sense, and things just continually worked out for Bond anyway like magic. Like "Bond has two minutes to search this ten storey abandoned building for a prisoner before the building explodes, and he finds the prisoner after twenty seconds" kind of nonsense. And to top it all off they retconned the previous three Craig movies to make Christoph Waltz's character responsible for everything in them while also being James Bond's brother from childhood for some reason. It was really stupid. I really like liking movies and I hated Spectre.

The absolute best part of the movie is literally the first shot, as there's some really incredible cinematography during a long continuous shot of Bond just walking through a Day of the Dead parade and onto a rooftop. That was amazing and I thought I was in for a real treat if that was going to set the tone for the movie and then the whole thing was downhill from there and I ended up really disappointed. My wife too, she loves DCraig Bond movies and she hated Spectre.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Turbinosamente posted:

Wait why was Spectre poo poo? I never got around to seeing it because I am the only person on Earth who doesn't really like Daniel Craig all that much and didn't like Casino Royale '07. (The book was waaaaay better).

First off, it's real boring. None of the action scenes have any pop. Despite being mostly real. The Blofeld twist is super lame and the fact he was responsible for everything that happened to Bond in all the Craig films is insanely stupid and really cheapens everything he's been through. It's all just been some lame half-baked revenge plot.

I never watch a Bond film for the story, but that to me is some serious dumb poo poo. Like why couldn't Blofeld be pissed they killed Quantum or something.

Andorra
Dec 12, 2012
Casino Royale would be the best movie if the third act didn't last for nine hours. Actually, the best movie would be if they turned the book Moonraker into a movie, because that book is fantastic.



Turbinosamente posted:

Wait why was Spectre poo poo? I never got around to seeing it because I am the only person on Earth who doesn't really like Daniel Craig all that much and didn't like Casino Royale '07. (The book was waaaaay better).

You'd probably like it. It's more lighthearted than the other Craig movies. There's some goofy sight gags, like during the car chase, the fight on the train is outstanding, and M is cool. Although on the other hand there's a few times in the film that I just had to stop and ask, "So why are they here?", plus they had to ruin everything by trying to add continuity between films which is something they never had.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

I liked A View to a Kill because Christopher Walken almost floods silicon valley which should happen in real life.

Goldfinger is my favorite but it has one big flaw. Why is Goldfinger (the guy) first presented as someone who is obsessed with gold in a fetishistic personal sort of way but then turns out to want to blow up the gold in fort knox so the value of his gold increases? It makes it seem like his goal is just money rather than gold which seems like inconsistent characterization.

Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Dec 6, 2016

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Shibawanko posted:

I liked A View to a Kill because Christopher Walken almost floods silicon valley which should happen in real life.

Goldfinger is my favorite but it has one big flaw. Why is Goldfinger (the guy) first presented as someone who is obsessed with gold in a fetishistic personal sort of way but then turns out to want to blow up the gold in fort knox so the value of his gold increases? It makes it seem like his goal is just money rather than gold which seems like inconsistent characterization.

That's a thing that happened in adapting the novel into a film. The novel has Goldfinger literally trying to steal all the gold from Fort Knox. Someone pointed out that gold is actually really goddamn heavy and the robbery wasn't physically possible so it got changed to just dirty bombing Fort Knox.

heffsay
Mar 5, 2013
Moonraker is my favorite because it feels like a very self aware, goofy rear end movie

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


CelticPredator posted:

First off, it's real boring. None of the action scenes have any pop. Despite being mostly real. The Blofeld twist is super lame and the fact he was responsible for everything that happened to Bond in all the Craig films is insanely stupid and really cheapens everything he's been through. It's all just been some lame half-baked revenge plot.

I never watch a Bond film for the story, but that to me is some serious dumb poo poo. Like why couldn't Blofeld be pissed they killed Quantum or something.
I liked Spectre up to the secret enemy base, then it feels like they just loving ran out of ideas somewhere in there and adlibbed whatever the gently caress they could to move the plot along. Totally lost me

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

heffsay posted:

Moonraker is my favorite because it feels like a very self aware, goofy rear end movie

This is why I like the Moore films. They treat the concept of Bond with the contempt it deserves.

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Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
In terms of Roger Moore movies, nothing beats Fahrenheit 9/11.

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