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Umm I'm going to need some more time before I post this, but hooooooly poo poo I've got some ~emerging information~ regarding the Melbourne One Nation thing
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Recoome posted:Umm I'm going to need some more time before I post this, but hooooooly poo poo I've got some ~emerging information~ regarding the Melbourne One Nation thing Can you post this before tomorrow? There's a lot of interested groups rallying together because of this.
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Recoome posted:Umm I'm going to need some more time before I post this, but hooooooly poo poo I've got some ~emerging information~ regarding the Melbourne One Nation thing You can't have more time. post now.
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Nautilus42 posted:Can you post this before tomorrow? There's a lot of interested groups rallying together because of this. Basically, the situation as presented is a sham (and this somehow hasn't been reported in the media). The Independent Jewish Council of Australia in a completely fictional organisation, and has not ever existed in any shape or form beyond potentially some dude's fever dreams. This is completely evident when you check out their About Us page, which lists the supposed exective team. The problem is, "Rabbi Moshe Gold" isn't a person, the .jpg for his name just links to a generic rabbi url and a reverse image search reveals that it is actually Barry Freundel. Hilariously, the front page has "news" correctly attributed to Freudel and uses his picture. It's safe to assume that no-one on this page exists, and a whois search of the domain reveals that the [domain was only registered late November, and the domain is set up through an anonymous host. The problem here is that in news reports such as this one from Sky News, the Independent Jewish Council of Australia is legitimised as an actual conservative body of Jews, where the site and story doesn't even stand up to 5 minutes of scrutiny. Their Facebook page has only a handful of likes, and has a phrase which I can only surmise is a bastard form of Yiddish, although a person who could speak/write Yiddish would know that although the pronunciation is pseudo German, it is written in the Hebrew. I reckon that the person who wrote this only has a cursory knowledge of Judaism (even I know more about it through my girlfriend, and I'm not even that accultured). I'm going to be forwarding what I have to Mediawatch or something, because frankly this is bullshit that this has gotten so much airtime with such little scrutiny. e: The rest of the stuff basically just reinforces the point that this is some bizarro performance art piece by a crazy right wing dude I guess? I'm not sure
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Starshark posted:My sister in law got fined for not voting in the council election. She lives alone and was sick on the day. Does she need a med cert or will they accept something else eg a stat dec or something? I got a fine waived by just saying "I was sick that day" with no proof, she should be right. If they do want a medical cert she'll have a chance to provide it later. Ed: Should note this was for a NSW council election. ephphatha fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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Dec 3, 2016 02:24
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I was reading about the One Nation thing on Slackbastard and apparently we have a new flag now? http://tripleflagflags.bigcartel.com/product/triple-flag
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Dec 3, 2016 02:27
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open24hours posted:Spending your career working on and learning about things actually makes you less qualified to talk about them. I'm not an out of touch latte-sipping elite, you're an out of touch latte-sipping elite! Stating the opposite of reality and having people accept this as fact has to be the worst political strategy. Gotta keep feeding into the idea that Aboriginal people are all lazy welfare kings/queens who just happen to like living in poverty since it gives them an excuse to get drunk all day every day.
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Amazing What's truly amazing is how conservative commentators have used this as a centerpiece of their argument regarding ~free speech~ and ~protesting~.
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Ten Becquerels posted:I'm not an out of touch latte-sipping elite, you're an out of touch latte-sipping elite! Politicians and the media have been doing it for decades, it's a winning strategy. Case in point: First Contact. For all the show was worth and the talk afterwards it may as well have been called the David Oldfield Show.
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Recoome posted:What's truly amazing is how conservative commentators have used this as a centerpiece of their argument regarding ~free speech~ and ~protesting~. tbh, conservative commentators latching onto fake news stories to justify their world view isn't all that amazing. What would be amazing is if any of them acknowledged that it was fake after the story has been debunked. e. unless that was the joke
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Sorry it's not some amazing mindblowing piece but it's pretty laffo
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Recoome posted:The problem is, "Rabbi Moshe Gold" isn't a person, the .jpg for his name just links to a generic rabbi url and a reverse image search reveals that it is actually Barry Freundel. All Jews look the same, so it's an easy mistake to make 
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open24hours posted:I was reading about the One Nation thing on Slackbastard and apparently we have a new flag now? http://tripleflagflags.bigcartel.com/product/triple-flag That's a parody Facebook page that revs up mobs like UPF by showing that they are more patriot because their flags are better. They were supposed to be doing a flag burning party in Melton, not sure if it went ahead because all those dumb arsed humourless racists took it really personally
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Tokamak posted:All Jews look the same, so it's an easy mistake to make What makes it even more  is that particular Rabbi was involved in the high-profile voyeurism scandal. From the fictitious IJCA pageRUBBISH LMAO posted:Chief Rabbi Freundel issues urgent statement on tzniut Like this is a serious loving oversight here on the part of any "journalist" who's visited this page. e: Like read this, it's like a legit Markov chain bot. The journalist "Exxy Saint Laurent" is referring to a brand, etc. Recoome fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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You Am I posted:That's a parody Facebook page that revs up mobs like UPF by showing that they are more patriot because their flags are better. They were supposed to be doing a flag burning party in Melton, not sure if it went ahead because all those dumb arsed humourless racists took it really personally They're certainly better artists than the real patriots. https://www.facebook.com/millionflagpatriots/photos/a.703263093146729.1073741828.699420480197657/776484642491240/?type=3&theater
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Ten Becquerels posted:I'm not an out of touch latte-sipping elite, you're an out of touch latte-sipping elite! In this case I don't think it's primarily a latte-sipper jab, it's an Abbott-esque ~authentic aborigine~ jab.
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open24hours posted:Spending your career working on and learning about things actually makes you less qualified to talk about them. Having theoretical knowledge of a subject is just a tad different to practical knowledge. It's a blatantly disingenuous and dismissive point to make when faced with criticism though. QUACKTASTIC posted:tbh, conservative commentators latching onto fake news stories to justify their world view isn't all that amazing. Politicians/people of all beliefs/ideologies are always keen to trumpet something that supports their argument whether the source is real or not, it's not a uniquely conservative thing to do.
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Recoome posted:What's truly amazing is how conservative commentators have used this as a centerpiece of their argument regarding ~free speech~ and ~protesting~. Cultural war astroturfing, the more things change the more they stay the same. The reason it works is, as we've found, that post-facts are things no one gives a poo poo about. Giving a poo poo about them then marks you as being On The Other Side, and in this way racists and authoritarians hope to muddle the argument their way, cf. the infamous Protocols, which reads today like a neolibertarian laundry list. Who can deliver the resounding blow, is Mediawatch the right vehicle? Do we have nothing better than Snopes these days?
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ewe2 posted:Cultural war astroturfing, the more things change the more they stay the same. The reason it works is, as we've found, that post-facts are things no one gives a poo poo about. Giving a poo poo about them then marks you as being On The Other Side, and in this way racists and authoritarians hope to muddle the argument their way, cf. the infamous Protocols, which reads today like a neolibertarian laundry list. Who can deliver the resounding blow, is Mediawatch the right vehicle? Do we have nothing better than Snopes these days? I guess real life me isn't as impactful to disseminate what I've found, it's really just poo poo that no-one really cares. Like for fucks sake like 2 second google would put this to bed
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Yeah you'd think general education would make someone at least double check something for anti-Semitism but apparently not. There's a thread about this sort of thing, of which this is a good demonstration.
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Their  Education Director Chaim Levy quote:The wife of a Safed rabbi charged with rape and sexual harassment says she knew about his sexual relations with two other women, a recording played Thursday by Channel 2 television apparently shows. http://www.timesofisrael.com/wife-of-accused-rabbi-says-she-knew-about-his-relations-with-2-women/
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Recoome posted:This is the tl;dr from what I have right now, sorry it's not a lot. The most fun you can have is reverse image searching everyone on the about us page.
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Ephphatha posted:I got a fine waived by just saying "I was sick that day" with no proof, she should be right. If they do want a medical cert she'll have a chance to provide it later. It is for a NSW election so thanks! Anyway, worse they can say is 'no'.
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Uhh regarding the fake jewish organisation thingy.... Did nobody notice when you go to the location they give for their office on google maps it's the office of MIchael Danby MP? lol
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hooman posted:Uhh regarding the fake jewish organisation thingy.... Holy gently caress what is going on there? Hmm... https://twitter.com/MichaelDanbyMP/status/804880648770945024 I think something's up guys. ewe2 fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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ewe2 posted:I think something's up guys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPEvbMqpXYw
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The Peccadillo posted:Holy cow, skitHOUSE was bad It was like 99% gay, dick or drinking jokes. And 1% cricket.
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So recoombe do you want to send mediawatch the tip? This seems super bizarre, especially when you read their news section and it's disavowing the right wing guy who was lieing about not being able to get security. The whole thing is really weird. hooman fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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It's just miserably loving dull Like, compare an old hosed up kids in the hall bit, with the same premise of 'gay is funny' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuLVv56YGXQ it rules. Australia sucks at sketch so bad
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The Peccadillo posted:It's just miserably loving dull When it comes to TV, though, what do we make that is legitimately good? I mean critically acclaimed and well-known. Bonus points if it doesn't go after its ideas and/or politically allegories in an incredibly hamfisted way. Admittedly, part of it must be because it's so easy to get access to really good US and UK shows and Australia probably can't compete, but it never seems like we want to compete. And, when we do, it always looks like the same half a dozen actors in the same half a dozen shows.
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Milky Moor posted:When it comes to TV, though, what do we make that is legitimately good? I mean critically acclaimed and well-known. Bonus points if it doesn't go after its ideas and/or politically allegories in an incredibly hamfisted way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIqqiK4ncfs
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As a filthy immigrant I enjoy All Aussie Adventures? If anything that man throws himself bodily into his comedy, christ.
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I'll admit this is not a topic I know much about but it's one I've always wondered about. My extent of my knowledge really comes from a subject during my Masters which involved discussing Australian narratives in stories. To this day, I'm still trying to figure out what an Australian story is. See, the lecturer insisted that Australia had a problem: a lot of our stories tend to be about migrating from another culture or growing up in the country, stories about isolation. But when the lecturer gave us extracts to read, to demonstrate the wider breadth of Australian storytelling, they were from books that were about migrants coming from other countries and learning the Australian language and struggling with the slang and remembering the horrible boat trip but, by God, weren't they glad to be here. They weren't even biographical, they were fictionalized. When I pointed this out, that these stories were just migrant stories and that were the same stories that my lecturer was critiquing (where were Indigenous stories?), I got one of the harshest marks of my Masters. I still passed but it was the only mark I ever considered appealing. So, I have a tendency to assume that Australian media exists in a cultural malaise because we don't have much of an idea of what constitutes an Australian story. Or, how to make our Australian-ness into an interesting show that people would want to watch. And then they make something like Sea Patrol or Wizards of Aus or whatever Chris Lilley is working on these days. It's something I pondered extensively at the start of the year as I started some writing and considered setting it in Australia because I'm not aware of any Australian stories in the genre, but then I realised I couldn't elucidate what an Australian context would actually bring to it.
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meteor9 posted:As a filthy immigrant I enjoy All Aussie Adventures? Glenn Robbins is a national treasure
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Milky Moor posted:When it comes to TV, though, what do we make that is legitimately good? I mean critically acclaimed and well-known. Bonus points if it doesn't go after its ideas and/or politically allegories in an incredibly hamfisted way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9hZ7kjgFh4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVs20X1XF2E
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As much as I liked All Aussie Adventures, it was a rip off of the Wallaby Jack Late Show skits 
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