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Tippis posted:What PANTONE® Coated number is that? I would say "Radiant Orchid" - Pantone 18-3224. Color of the year SQ42 was supposed to release when first announced.
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The ever shifting start date. How can CIG release something that never truly started ?
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Sunswipe posted:I don't want to piss on anyone's chips, but the gameplay footage for ME: Andromeda looks like more of the very average same. ME did not gather a rabid fanbase for its gameplay. It does the shooty part correctly, with just enough satisfaction to bring you to the next story nugget without being boring. The second and 3rd game improved on the gameplay but still people clamored for more and more story. Very few recall doing long kiilstreaks in ME3 PVP, But nearly everyone remember having to kill Wrex , hearing Sovereign voice the first time, picking up who dies between space racist and space puppy or saving everyone but a single crewmember on the suicide mission. Its the little things, like Headbuting a Krogan rear end in a top hat during negociation, Wrex and Tali elevator banter, Mordin singing the Major general song.
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TheAgent posted:I started final fantasy a gaijin doubter I completed 7, 8 and 10 once, 12 three times (it was a christmas vacation ritual, once every years). I tried real hard to like 13 but the completely nonsensical plot and "bolted on rails" storyline made me quit after maybe 12-13 hours of gameplay. Does 15 somehow redeem 13 or is it just the same with prettyer graphics ?
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Dec 2, 2016 21:00
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TheAgent posted:here's my FF story So its like a stag party roadtrip with your crew before you go off to mary the princess ? If the main protagonist is more articulate than Cloud/Squall i could dig that.
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TheAgent posted:nah Noct (pronounced knocked) is v verbal I prefer them doing what they are good at, even with some grating cultural differences, than have them try to be "west friendly" and result in another Spirit Within,
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Dec 2, 2016 21:25
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Sarsapariller posted:So here's a picture of all of the funding to date that I compiled from that community tracking spreadsheet. Warning: Huge. Its the planets. People already see themselve as fearless explorers claiming a homestead, a desire most backers had in real life but where denied by (fate/the economy/republicans/democrats/muslims). What DLC sold more for Skyrim ? Heartfire, the one where you can build a house. Sci-fi fan where burned by NMS but instead of learning most of them decided "This will be No Man Skys done right !" and they keep chasing the dragon tail. People look at the Demo at Gamescon and judge then like they judge big AAA demo at E3 - Ie. We show you something now to be released november/early next year. The interesting part is that if you divide the 130M$ by half a million backers (the number turbulent released), its only about 65$ a year over 4 years. About a single AAA title, something many would call a resonable spending for a hoby. And who know ? Maybe SQ42 will be a loving masterpiece revitalizing the genre. Maybe lightning will strike twice. The Pyramyds and the Great Wall show that if you throw enough money and human suffering at a problem great things are possible. Its wastefull and barbaric for the slave doing the works, but your legacy still stand the test of time. Who know what will emerge from this dumpster fire at the end ?
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SelenicMartian posted:Who's running the funding tracker? Turbulent. They outsource most web desing and infrastructure.
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alf_pogs posted:i dont know that lightning has struck once yet Wing commander was a success that helped put Origin system on the map beside the Ultima series. This one can be attributed in major part to Crobberts. Thoatse posted:So where are we now on Mount Funding? We are, strangely, begining to climb the ''expectations'' skyway. The backers ate the Gamescon planet promise and Starmarine standalone (and soon to be left to rot like AC) for a fruitfull November/December season and like a toystore making 80% of its yearly income in those two months, we are good for another years of ships concepts, missed deadlines and PU slow growth untill CIG either A) Release SQ42. B) Allow ships to be purcheasable in the PU with PU money. C) Do something illegal and be investigated. D) Publish another demo reel of upcoming features to prime the hype pump for another year (it worked 4 time already, why stop ?). aleksendr fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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Scruffyhawk posted:Will CIG ever release that SQ42 demo they failed to deliver for CitCon that they made some dumb apology documentary video for? How long has it been now? Did they just give up and brush it under the rug? Why release a demo of features than have already been refactored and replaced with BETTER FEATURES! Buy a Polaris!
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Solarin posted:Hanales in discord said this is the best reator design he's seen since he was a very small child Who the gently caress design a reactor with control rods you have to lift between the fuel rods ? This is ''Unshielded Deathstar ventilation port'' level of stupidity.
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cool new Polack jokes posted:I'm a video game idiot. What's no-clip? The original DOOM had a cheat code that allowed you to move around without colision detection (i.e trough the walls). That code was ''idnoclip''. In the context of SC its the feeling of ''weightlesness'' you get from the ship flight model. You would expect, since you are simulating the effect of a thruster pushing off a mass in space, to start slow and have the velocity ramp up untill you begin thrusting in the opposite direction, making it slow down gradually untill you stop. The worse the Thrust/Mass ration would be, the longer the whole process would take. SC ships dont do that. They accelerate and stop on a dime in any direction with nearly no inertia. Whatever marketing spiel they shill to the backer about ''Simulating each thrusters correctly'' is blatantly false. Compare : SC landing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ye5Z4ZUyGw#t=02m29s Elite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRXeNBslEf8#t=06m50s SC ships behave like a Farcry3 jeep with Noclip.
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Winter Stormer posted:That's actually standard for boiling-water reactors, since the steam separators and dryers have to be directly above the reactor core That is indeed the case. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to learn. From the wiki : Disadvantages: Control rods are inserted from below for current BWR designs. There are two available hydraulic power sources that can drive the control rods into the core for a BWR under emergency conditions. There is a dedicated high pressure hydraulic accumulator and also the pressure inside of the reactor pressure vessel available to each control rod. Either the dedicated accumulator (one per rod) or reactor pressure is capable of fully inserting each rod. Most other reactor types use top entry control rods that are held up in the withdrawn position by electromagnets, causing them to fall into the reactor by gravity if power is lost.
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Wrecked Angle posted:Who actually made this gif? It's the absolute closest thing to cig.gif that exists. I agree. If i had to resume SC in a single image that would be it.
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TheLightPurges posted:I have returned. Game still poo poo and unreleased. Go back having fun.
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TheAgent posted:
But it has already been presold to the vast majority of its audience since 2014 at the jolly tune of 45$. They should know if it is a success...
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Astroniomix posted:The best part about this is the Elite video is almost two years older than the SC one and it still looks more polished. To be fair, SC developpement only started last month, so they are making great progress. TheLightPurges posted:Old backer money doesn't count. And remember they've been telling themselves and potential future investors that they're only 10%of the market. How the release go will be interesting. Will they accept giving Valve and other digital channels a cut and release as a stand alone game or double down on their own release channel, reducing visibility ? aleksendr fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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TheLightPurges posted:How far do you think the "well you cant judge them on this release they're a rookie dev studio on their first time out" will carry them? In the backer's heart of heart ? Forever. Real world ? Maybe first release. But if it is not a top of the line game any critics worth his salt will get a poke at the 140m$ dev price.
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cool new Polack jokes posted:wtf is santaball Wordplay on "Sataball" the supposed zero gravity sport of the SC universe. Think handball played in Ender's game war room. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54HLixcWbM It never got further out than a map, not even a playable prototype.
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Dec 4, 2016 19:14
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Sabreseven posted:I think they know that the game isn't ever going to be released in 'completed' state. Of course at the point when 90% of it is done, the core of our solar system, Sol the giant ball of really hot gas, will have expanded its boundries way beyond the point in which our planet is consumed, much like how dohnuts are consumed by the ever expanding land based lard formation known as Lesnick-B. ('is fat' jokes have been sparse in this incarnation of the thread) The biggest challenge they will face is transitioning from the current funding model of massive macro transaction fueled by Hype/marketing trikery (sizzle reel, artificial scarcity, new cash rebate) to an "ongoing" operation. From what we gather this game has serious infrastructure needs, if only in patching bandwith and while the current whale are perfectly fine with spending a few bricks to fuel the dream, once they have something they can immerse themselve in game they will gradually stop spending. If you love cargo running, once you have a Hull E with your Where will the money needed to cover maintenance and further dev will come ? How will they retrain the whales from spending a lot on concept to spend a little every month ? They dont have levels or tiers so they cant have premium account get %more rewards. Gun renting schemes never sold good on PC platforms. Allowing backers to own while new player to only rent would please backers but keep out a lot of new money. They dont have enchants or tech upgrades, so no selling enchants or protection items. Selling fuel and ammo might work, but nothing crash immersion like having to pay your fuel like you do with your car. They promised no subs They promised no p2W - all sould be skill based. Unless they go back on the pledge (not that its above them) i really wonder how they will pull it off. aleksendr fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I spent a lot of time arguing with backers over this, and in the end the only way I could think of making it work was a secondary cosmetic only currency. It would be exchangeable in game so that lazy players could buy credits with cash, and since it's only for cosmetic items Pay2Win isn't an issue. Plus it's a good way to counter inflation. For that to work you would need a serious churn rate of new players buying one-two cosmetics before moving on while a few social butterfly have to try them all. The usuall fremium MMO is bult on the idea of making you spend 10$ before you gently caress off to other games but the game is built on that model form ground zero. SC is the absolute opposite of ''just download it to try it out' this week end'. The control scheme alone could turn a good % of newcomers off and they have no tutorials yet. A cosmetic market would probably reach saturation quickly and they already gave about 1500M UEC to backers in pre-reg, not counting the pyramid scheme rewards they put in place to entice word of mouth. Add the fidelity madness of the crobblers taking a day to describe a jacket and i dont think cosmetics alone can keep them in the black, especially if the backers are as obessive playing the game as they are defending it. 200k person playing 6-10 hours a day (many are unemployed-disabled) without p2p matchmaking eat a lot of upload. The moment they put a ship for sale for in game money it will come crashing down.
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trucutru posted:As soon as CR says that mandatory subscriptions are for the best the backers will realize that they have always loved subscriptions. Will the whales accept a 90$ box fee+ 15$subs+ micro/macro transactions ? If he really pull this off then i will applaud CIG marketing dept, putting them on the same pedestal of mind fuckery as Apple. When was the last subs MMo you saw launch and not fail or go f2p in the folowing 2 years ? Even SWKOTOR, the biggest IP with one of the top 3 publisher in tow had to do it.
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Daztek posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5grftr/any_other_young_dads_stoked_to_multicrew_with/ See, my son, see, my daughter, one day you will have to provide healthcare or desing products for those who where raised by backers, while they complain they have no jobs and its the government fault.
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MeLKoR posted:This is the correct answer. Pepperoni, pineapple and shrimp is boss. When it come to pizza, less is more. Cherry tomatoes, mozarella, garlic, fresh basil. Good quality ingredients, wood oven cooked.
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The Titanic posted:I don't think pizza has health value in any form. Thats because your corner store pizzeria selling two large pie for 10 bucks is using the worst quality of cheese with a horrible protein/fat ratio, meat with the lowest % of protein possible authorized by law while still being called ''meat'' and adding lots of sugar in the sauce as volume filler. A good pizza is no worse than a ham,tomato and cheese sandwich. Do it on anything other than white bread and dont go overboard with the mayo and its perfectly fine. Eldragon posted:I wish Elite was 10% as fun as that video makes the game look. I will take that ''less than 10 %'' and run with it compared to the ''fun'' the SC streamers are having running around in a fps while using spaceships as transport anyday. aleksendr fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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ahmini posted:Because he doesn't have the hammer of needing to sell an actual stable working product to stay afloat hanging over his head. FD are motivated to do that because they'd be crucified if people paid for their product and found it to be bugged to poo poo. Braben got burned by that before (Frontier: First Encounters), which arguably lead to the death of Elite as a franchise for well over a decade. Indeed. People often call SC a 140M$ disaster while it is, in fact, only a 60-70m$ disaster, the Crobblers hollywood dreams having engulfed nearly half the budget for mocap with nothing to show for it after 4 years. Money is frungible and move around so it would be difficult to ascertain the real cost of SQ42lude when it release but from leaks and sources nearly half the budget was blown on mocap alone, something with very little use to SC.
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Percelus posted:when this game finally releases, will the war between humans and the vanduuls in sq42 be the grand space opera that redefines both gameplay and story telling for generations to come? From various leaks Sq42lude has only human involved. Apparently the Vandull characters where made to the wrong scale compared to the levels, so they have to redo/adjust all of the mocap where they appear. If they maintain the current funding/produced material ratio you will have to wait another 4 year for the next chapter of Crobberts 60M$ mocap magnus opus.
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DogonCrook posted:http://www.pcgamer.com/kingdom-come-deliverance-is-fast-approaching-completion-heres-an-update-video/#article-comments Yes, CIG is after the "layering" clothing tech they have developped for Cryengine. Apparently some peon told the lord roberts that cloth layers could not be done in SC due to how starengine was designed. crobberts pointed to Warhorse and said "If they can do it, so can we" and thus the starmarine code was forked again and pushed back another 6 month...
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:It won't be good 'til you can sex the fempilot I can already pictre it : Ankward, fully clothed vibrating characters slowly merging into each other untill one spaghettify and get throw out the bedrrom at 200m/s.
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Erenthal posted:Oh wow, a new concept ship????? My interest is certainly piqued! I am intriguided. They are running out of regular sci-fi "concepts" and they cant easily sell another ship with the same role without having a part of the community screaming "power creep" before its even released. What will it be ? Another single seater for quick cash or a new "ship as a job/class" big multicrew for the dreamers ? Hospital ship ? Taco truck ? Garbage scow ? Tugboat ? Coast Guard ? aleksendr fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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Strawman posted:You realize launching SQ42 alone will make as much as all ship sales thus far, right? Hmmm.. To reach that much money they would need to sell 2.9 million units, putting them in the same "class" as the original Mass Effect without any new marketing spending. Not impossible, but they start with about 500k units already paid for, so they need in reality 3.4M units moved. That is Battlefield 4, Batman : Arkham Asylum and Fifa 2004 numbers. All broad appeal titles in the 80+ metacritic score. Not impossible, but...
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TheLightPurges posted:Hmmm, PTU time of only a day or two before Live. Seems like a legit schedule. Avocado testing is super efficient. Simply melt the bugs away.
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Mirificus posted:Who would pay money for such an ugly poster? Who would want a poster of the equivalent of the golf cart thing ? The only ships i love in the whole SC debacle is the racer line, all lthe other (with maybe the exception of the seatgate ship) are average grey lump of greebled generic sci-fi.
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TheAgent posted:also my fav from the new moving goalpost thing Its an interesting situation. Spend on infrastructure, go full subscription+microT and renege on your "no subscription, no P2W" promise, losing you precious whale oil or deliver a FPS and dogfighting game where your average ping is above 400ms. Decision, decision...
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TheAgent posted:bandwidth is cheap Would you think possible that due to poor planing they are caught in a kind of "engineering ponzi scheme" where new sales of ships are actually paying for infrastructure and maintenance instead of progress on the game and that the only way out is to "sell more ships that wont exist for a long time" so they can hope to finish the game someday ?
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Truga posted:Meanwhile not space simulator developer land. I have a train license for engines under 50 tons (Used to work at a chemical factory with its own little railyard) and this things look good enough to be used as a cheap form of early training. Just having people know where everything is before they step up the real train would save lots of time. Hope it turn out to be a good game when it release.
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Sindai posted:I imagine all the people who actually know what they're doing start crying blood when Roberts suggests modelling the entire interior of anything that big. They are in the stretch goals 4.5M - Cruiser ship clas as playable 15M is "escort carrier" Battlecruiser is 17M Leak sometime reported serious problems on the bigger ships, as in "The engine is unable to determine the correct position of every part of the model, causing it to tear itself appart on spawn". I give them a pass at not having Battleships since the concept ceased to be an effective weapon halfway trough WW2. Planes outrange the biggest guns and no ammount of belt or bulge armor is going to save you from a dive bomb trough the deck (Yamato) or a torpedo on your rudder (Bismark). Battleships became nothing more than slow, juicy targets slurping precious fuel. aleksendr fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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A Neurotic Corncob posted:Wolf Larsen presents.... They are after the more resonable player who only bought a basic package. A good % of those who write the essay but dont win will end up buying in anyway after having spent so much time thinking about how they would use the conveted asset. Engagement as a sale tactic is textbook classic for high margin goods, have the fence sitting buyers create their own feeling of need. Maybe the whale oil is getting stale and they want to harvest the "middle class" of backers ? aleksendr fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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intardnation posted:just went look at hotas to see and the x56 rhino people were after is $500 Can. I could buy the warthog for the same price! I take it another reason shitizens are taking it in the rear end. And what about the SC Hotas? has anyone SC hotas will probably never exist. If you want a low cost approach to hotas you can go dual USB stick. Thats how i play Elite (not VR) and its pretty neat if you dont have pedals.
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Chunjee posted:If it were up to me and I actually wanted to deliver a game: Tier based spaceship arena MMO like WOT. Sell the assets and codebase to the Chinese and cash out.
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