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What will die first?
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ROH 20 22.47%
America 69 77.53%
Total: 89 votes
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Jun 10, 2013
2017 Wrestling: https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/817393338991120384 https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/817393441114091521

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Jun 10, 2013

Thauros posted:

i remember most people thought ROH was gonna be on board with FloSlam in the period between announcement and launch. Know if something happened there, or were negotiations never that serious to begin with?

The negotiations were very serious. I don't know what happened other than it was probably nixed at the Sinclair level. First I realised that things went south is when Flo was bidding on the Bucks. Flo were offering a lot of money for the team. More than WWE and it took two companie's budgets and very favourable terms to outbid Flo.

They are or were bidding on Kyle O'Reilly. I don't what to believe anymore as the establish Wrestling media only mention WWE.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/817614572395888640

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Very muddled situation https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/817784776635596800

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/KORcombat/status/820305992114143232

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Kyle's situation and that of a few others is a bit of a hot potato currently. Sit tight for a few weeks. Hope someone takes the bullet and talks about it soon.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

coconono posted:

is WWN money better than ROH money?

Historically no. Gabe keeps a tight reign on payouts but WWN is far less restrictive than ROH on third party bookings.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
More good news https://twitter.com/SeanRadican/status/821467082877440001

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/realBobbyCruise/status/822201677147213825

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Jun 10, 2013

Uhaacrewz posted:

Donovan Dijak appears to be finishing up here as he's not currently scheduled for anything beyond the February TV taping in Pittsburgh (although one source noted that could change). That may be a by-product of WWE interest as the word that has been making the rounds the last two weeks is that WWE isn't comfortable offering anyone who was under a ROH deal an offer until they are 60 days out of their ROH deal expiring, obviously because they don't want to be accused of contract tampering. So, it's a case of talents now having to give notice to ROH, then wait a few months while working the indy scene to see if they will get a WWE offer. That likely explains why Kyle O'Reilly disappeared after his contract expired on 12/31.


From pwinsider

This what Meltzer was cryptically referring to on WOR two weeks ago re: contract tampering. Allegedly/apparently Corino's NXT tryout displayed on the WWE website was contract tampering. So ROH sent WWE a legal letter. Dijak aren't the only ones effected. Use you imagination who is.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/TheAOster/status/825039560031739905

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
There's a pretty big ROH story set to break over the next few hours/days. I don't think anyone will view it as positive. Sit tight.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/PWInsidercom/status/827354161784160256

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

EugeneJ posted:

Wasn't he like the guy holding everything together backstage
During Delirious's disappearances yes.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Benne is smart

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
NotQuiteQuentin offered a very intelligent answer.

But the human side is that Joe Koff ROH's CEO considers Delirious like a son. There's been outright coups to overthrow Delirious but Koff want listen to criticisms/grievances.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Kelly left ROH as he needed a nap per Meltzer: http://www.f4wonline.com/ring-honor/kevin-kelly-leaving-full-time-position-ring-honor-229486

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

Roque11 posted:

Kevin Kelly is not even 100% gone. He just left his office job due to the added stress of doing commentary for New Japan. He'll still be doing announcing work as freelancer. Just more ammo ROH haters are trying to use against the company. Even if he was gone it's no big deal. Kelly has been mediocre at best as an announcer dating back to his WWE days. Him being the voice of ROH has made the company look lame as he presents an uncool image. His claim to fame is being the guy The Rock would always make fun of and refer to as hermie.

Btw, War Machine are booked on the Honor Rising shows, but wait they are headed to WWE.

Cool gimmick

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Ian Riccaboni and Silas Young announced at tapings last night.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/BookItGabe/status/828769857768476672

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
As revealed on MLW Radio last night ROH is no longer using Kevin Sullivan. Personally I thought his stuff was the worst part of the recent product. BUT he was greatly liked and helpful towards the locker room. Sullivan was a political actor back in the day but now he's a 67 year old man who was just happy to get out of the house these days. But a paranoid Delirious and Koff felt he was too much of a threat so they axed him.

Meltzer will likely report it as they let him go as Corino left mid storyline. Much like the Truth Martini departure.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/MrJacobCohen/status/829416722562158592

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Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/829835018788864000

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Jun 10, 2013

KungFu Grip posted:

I cant believe ROH is losing Sonjay Dutt even though he's coming back

https://twitter.com/ringofhonor/status/830053746415697920

Alex Shelley tweeted some poo poo:

https://twitter.com/fakekinkade/status/830231797308989440 https://twitter.com/fakekinkade/status/830232030084526080 https://twitter.com/fakekinkade/status/830232243104800768 https://twitter.com/fakekinkade/status/830232759771754496 https://twitter.com/fakekinkade/status/830232833964830720 https://twitter.com/fakekinkade/status/830233029197099008

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

MagicCube posted:

As dysfunctional as the backstage environment is, ROH still has a lot of cool wrestlers and good matchups so I will watch them. Marty Scurll is very good and maybe my favourite wrestler at the moment. His match vs. Ospreay at the ROH London show cemented it for me.

I've gotten the rep of hating ROH but the in ring quality is still at a high standard and the TV has been largely strong every week this year so far. But ROH is lacking in compelling stories or fan faith that a new talent can/will reach the top of the card/win the belt.

I can't fault how they handled Marty. Hope they can convince him to say on with the company past Wrestlemania weekend or so.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

oldskool posted:

It's tough to put together storylines when seemingly half your roster isn't signed to contracts...and said roster members are more hesitant to sign because of the lack of pushes and storylines...really feels like ROH has dug themselves into a vicious feedback cycle here and I'm not really sure how they get out of it.

Where the Joe/Punk/Danielson era had talent topping out on indies via ROH. The Corporate Sinclair era had Kevin Steen kinda creating the idea that being eventually pissed off with ROH and washing your hands of them is a career milestone or graduation point. Others have since followed:

Deciding "gently caress this poo poo" is the new ROH World Championship.

https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/746220129491443712

There's a very healthy post-ROH support group in WWE/NXT and EVOLVE these days.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
So in short my advice to young ROH talent is to be deeply unprofessional if you want to go anywhere in this business.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
#WarScarlett https://twitter.com/Lady_Scarlett13/status/829681581321310208

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/833354675978117120

I believe the likes of Kyle O'Reilly, Bobby Fish, Dijak and War Machine will be legally able to talk to WWE early March.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/wordsbig80s/status/833512576956899328 https://twitter.com/wordsbig80s/status/833514878619045889 https://twitter.com/wordsbig80s/status/833517495470419969 https://twitter.com/wordsbig80s/status/833518671377076225

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/ROH_World/status/834792194259111936 https://twitter.com/BookItGabe/status/834801331722391552

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Sup Roque

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Expect surprises tonight

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

Roque11 posted:

Ah ha! I told everyone he wasn't going anywhere and would eventually be back.

It is a debut. Not the Hardys either.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

ChuckDeNomolos posted:

Well, it was the Hardys. New Tag Champs.

https://twitter.com/MikePWInsider/status/838224167501774848

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

sportsgenius86 posted:

The only thing I can think of that would make sense is Ricochet.

Mike only gets excited for ECW alumni https://twitter.com/brmf_/status/838228749309071361

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

Roque11 posted:

Ah ha! I told everyone he wasn't going anywhere and would eventually be back.

Sup

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
It is March 5th IN THEORY those ROH talents whose contracts expired the turn of the year are free to talk to WWE now.

The likes of Fish, O'Reilly, Dijack and War Machine.

https://twitter.com/KORcombat/status/837357589293846529 https://twitter.com/DonovanDijak/status/838053493780930563 https://twitter.com/RAYMONDxROWE/status/838069439807520768

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/838474109961060353

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Jun 10, 2013
You are showing your hand re: being a gimmick here.

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