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MassRafTer posted:Me in reality: Throwdown was in Detroit with KENTA vs Roddy! You are likely thinking of Danielson vs Joe vs KENTA which happened earlier that month in New York City (550 paid, sellout.) The Shaman of Cum: TRAP SPRUNG
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I consider his reign to be the best ROH reign ever. There are a ton of genuinely great ones, but his chase and capture and reign are what got me interested in ROH beyond casually reading results and such. What chase he was out of the company for 4 months, won it, was gone for 2 months, had some OK defenses (with a couple great ones) for a few months and then things got started. Morishima's was the best ever.
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May 24, 2018 03:41
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El Gallinero Gros posted:He left after promising to leave if he couldn't win after having had multiple title shots, came back and won the title in a super emotional win, made convincing challengers out of Cabana, Delirious, and Roderick Strong (who was a nobody at the time), did one of the best sneaky heel turns ever (putting his title match with Joe ahead of helping ROH defeat CZW), had multiple fantastic title matches with Joe, Nigel, and others. The first 9 months of Joe's reign are so boring. There's a few good matches here and there but it doesn't really kick off until 2004. ROH in 2003 was just nothing special. As for the explanation for his absence, come on the guy had other commitments, commitments that kept him defending for two months. It's bad storytelling.
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May 24, 2018 15:22
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The Berzerker posted:I got nostalgic for old ROH, some of the stuff I've been watching: Watch the Black/Danielson vs AMERICAN WOLVES from Tag Title Classic, it's one of the best ROH matches from the last 10 years and a lot of people missed out on it.
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May 25, 2018 04:05
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The Joe/Magnus team owned because it led to takes about how the team being good was a sign Magnus was good, and then takes that since their matches against each other weren't so great it was a sign Joe was no longer good.
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May 27, 2018 00:34
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fart blood posted:They are helping bankroll it. Nope.
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Jun 19, 2018 18:11
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coconono posted:what did ROH do to piss off WWE so badly? It seems like as soon as ROH started doing 2k+ gates WWE started loving with them. The NXT launch, the talent lockouts and now cockblocking MSG(a building that WWE doesn't even love that much other than the McMahon statue). The Kevin Steen action figure.
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Jun 19, 2018 18:59
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Every time I feel like we need a new OP I realize we don't.
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Jun 20, 2018 03:57
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ROH keeps doing record crowds, who are you to doubt Roque?
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Jul 3, 2018 22:47
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There was nothing weird about Jay Lethal bragging in a promo about having sex with AJ Lee before CM Punk did. Nothing at all.
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Jul 5, 2018 05:23
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KungFu Grip posted:they're probably gonna run it in a smaller capacity like always Well yeah that's why it will be easy to outdraw NXT.
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Jul 14, 2018 01:46
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fart blood posted:I can't believe ROH had a show on the 20th and it got like 3 posts. Cold as in setting attendance records all the time, they are freezing!
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Jul 22, 2018 18:28
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EugeneJ posted:ROH is a vessel for New Japan talent to be showcased in America and nothing more Their last PPV was pretty much all ROH contracted guys and did great business. exploded mummy posted:Record breaking crowds aren't always a sign of a good product, look at WWE or post mid 98 WCW The company is hotter than it has ever been, the negativity is astounding. Sorry they are putting on a product no one wants to see but that is what makes money in the US right now.
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Jul 22, 2018 18:54
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fart blood posted:I uhhh can’t tell if you’re sarcastic or not Everything I have said in my last two posts is the unfiltered truth. ROH is doing great business but no one talks about them because no one knows who their product appeals to. It's a group between WWE casuals and hardcore fans. Lots of Bullet Club fans, but lots of like...not obsessed wrestling fans. It's weird.
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Jul 22, 2018 19:04
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KungFu Grip posted:that no one is watching or tweeting about it on our timelines over the nxt takeover tweets just like this year All of those sad people tweeting about the less attended event while ROH does numbers.
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Jul 22, 2018 19:35
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KungFu Grip posted:I was going to say that ROH is lucky that the NJPW partnership is so strong because of how much they rely on Bullet Club to sell out shows. But even that's not much of a help when ROH's product isn't even hot enough to keep everyone in the building for their main event this year. Yes let us just ignore all of the non NJPW shows that are doing big numbers and the big increases every year. Meanwhile NXT can't sell out piggy backing off MITB (problems mounting?) while a card built around ROH talent sold more tickets in seconds. The smarks are sad the farm league NXT is declining while ROH has more momentum than a speeding bullet.
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Jul 22, 2018 19:57
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KungFu Grip posted:Yes, lets ignore all the non njpw shows, because i honestly am unaware of them even happening from the lack of online buzz around them. I only knew there was a ROH show this weekend because ROH had a big indy name debut. My point isn't that they aren't selling out or whatever, my point is how dead the product is with people in online communities and how this thread is mostly dead unless there's big news like the MSG show. No one talks about upcoming matches in here or title matches. I don't see ROH matches being nominated in the MOTYC thread unlike years pass. You keep banging a drum about their business when I'm not talking about their business, I'm talking about their buzz and the word of mouth about them online being practically nonexistent. I'm sorry that you are so focused on nebulous concept like "buzz" instead of the fact this company is riding a hot streak like never before.
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Jul 22, 2018 20:42
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I threw Ring of Honor into the Buzz O Meter and folks the Buzz is rising.
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Jul 22, 2018 21:15
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exploded mummy posted:you mean the PPV where the top 3 matches all had Bullet Club heels, the fourth one down (the first with no Bullet Club) had KUSHIDA, and the opener had LIJ Ah yes Kushida drew that house and is worth mentioning. I love Kushida but we know who is drawing and why the buzz is charting. The Bullet Club ROH guys are hot.
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Jul 22, 2018 23:16
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It has been a good run but this thread couldn't contain the buzz. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3863989
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Jul 23, 2018 03:04
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