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Mar 4, 2007

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khwarezm posted:

Now, honestly I'm not much of fan of Clinton and much preferred Sanders, but I don't see how Identity Politics really damaged the Democrats on the whole, or leftist movements in general. Surely if we expect to create a unified opposition to right wing movements across the world we need to prove to various marginalized groups that we care and will address the unique issues they might face, even if sometimes they are not simply economic issues? What use is it to us to place the blame on identity politics so much, especially when the opposition can exploit it as much as they want and win as a result?

i googled white fragility and didn't find an easy link posted:

White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress be- comes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation.

Basically white people have no experience dealing with race issues, so any amount of that stress just causes meltdowns. When a minority starts seeing articles that say "turns out everyone is racist and everythings stacked against you" they say "yeah duh" but a white person seeing the same poo poo has been tricked by American culture into thinking that that isn't true.

The thing is, it's not like giving up on "identity politics" is actually going to win any arguments or votes. You'll lose the support of anti-racist activists and voters, and even if they don't flip that just makes D votes go down, and there will just be a new battleground that Repubs will be obstinate and awful about. And the dogwhistling won't even go away.

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