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Brainiac Five posted:Key for left-wing people to start using "identity politics" is to have a theory of politics wherein all of politics emerges from a single root. Because of the way our society is structured, most of the time, this root is class. Thus, race, gender, sexual orientation, ability, age, etc. all are manifestations of capitalist social classes and any effort which doesn't align with the speaker's understanding of communism or anarchism is thus invalid "identity politics". Because most of the people in this thread are liberals and not leftists, they blame "neoliberals" for inventing the idea of gay marriage and not reactionary bourgeois homosexuality itself. Trying to boil down all of history and human action to an all encompassing grand narrative with one root cause is an endeavor doomed to failure. It is self-satisfying though.
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Neurolimal posted:
That's not quite the issue. The problem is that you should, as a leftist, always harbor a degree of suspicion when people bellow It's the Economy Stupid because it can and does enable a narrative that all social ills will go away if we just focus on economy/class issues. It's not even a conscious thing necessarily but rhetoric like this has been used in a number of developing nations over the course of the last hundred years to marginalize, sideline, or otherwide defang women's liberation movements and the like.
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Mr. Belding posted:This stupid poo poo again. Well if someone says that then we will tell them that just fixing the economy won't erase racism. Right? I will put this in simple sentences foe you. People pushing a grand narrative are going to sideline one issue or the other. Neither a focus on economic or social justice alone is enough.
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