Why are Identity politics so bad?

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Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

deep web creep posted:

I'm not emptyquoting but I should be because these are the only two things that need to be posted in this thread, again and again, forever.

nah, just every time a fishmech shows up

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Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

otoh i am enjoying the deafening silence of the "poor privilege definitely exists!!!!" people at this point in time, i hope it lasts

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 20:14

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Deified Data posted:

What is this? Do you mean poor white privilege?

they don't limit it to poor white privilege, there's also poor gay black privilege, there's poor cishet asian privilege...

the sewer hole never ends

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 20:18

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Brainiac Five posted:

A pretty good example of why "we need both" is a facile lie is that the people saying it are pushing respectability politics for the minorities. Thus, since LGBT people can't put pressure on society in general because that's "alienating" and can't put pressure on corporations because that's "neoliberalism", what would actually happen in Freddie the Boor's ideal leftism is that LGBT liberation and LGBT people as a class would slowly get strangled into oblivion.

is there an otherworld variant of fox news you're subscribing to because not once have i ever seen your type give a poo poo about the most vulnerable of minority classes, trans/gay sex workers

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 20:22

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

is this the routine where you pigeonhole yourself into a 34-depth identity thing and berate everyone who gets it wrong while you speak from a position of economic safety, because there's only one correct answer to that

e: oh, it's our favorite idpol-only bourgeoisie effectronica, should have figured from the rapsheet :thumbsup:

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 20:27

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Cugel the Clever posted:

Guys, take a breath. Literally no one in this thread is saying that gender equality, racial equality, or LGBT issues aren't essential to the future we want to build. I can sympathize with your fear and frustration. There remain huge segments of American society that would deny you your right to exist, but the majority of people on these forums and in the broader left have your back. Can we not slap labels on other posters to invalidate their concerns?

keep in mind these are the same people who would throw poor lgbt/minorities under the bus simply because they're sex workers

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 20:42

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Business Gorillas posted:

yeah we pretty much answered the question on the first page and the rest of this thread is falling down the same rabbit hole

at least we get a live illustration of the kind of agents that are useful for the elites to employ to destroy wealth inequality discourse

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 21:21

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

JeffersonClay posted:

It's a tricky road to navigate because racism is a tool to get poor white people to vote against their own economic interests. We can't have more welfare, because those lazy browns will get it.

outside of the incest belt white people seem to be falling for that thing less and less as time goes on

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 21:24

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

imagine being so politically illiterate that your definition of "elites" includes b-list celebs who require the proletariat to have money to function and advocate for socialism by necessity, instead of the fair-weather wall street billionaires who engage in wage thievery but keep putting up smokescreens like this to make people think they don't exist yet keep suckering the DNC into adopting class-exclusionary idpol

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Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

rip effectronica, killed by terminal to-the-letter obsession with labels

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