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Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

Peachfart posted:

Whole Foods is overpriced garbage from a company that hypes GMO fears so maybe the Amazon acquisition will help things.

Whole Foods is strange in that it's generally overpriced but their 365 product line items are (sadly) often among the cheapest options in my area. However Whole Foods fresh produce is super-overpriced so I don't see how this acquisition helps Amazon in the area where grocery stores maintain a large advantage over online shopping. I guess we'll see!

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Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

BrandorKP posted:

Another article on Sears and Lampert

The Incredible Shrinking Sears https://nyti.ms/2uOeTsH

BlueBlazer posted:

As someone else in logistics, the story of Sears must be sad to watch.

It is for me. They had their chance, could have been a much better version of Amazon and the current online incarnation of Walmart. But no. Run into the ground by a hedgefund Randoid.

The constant stream of Sears deathwatch articles are one of the unexpectedly satisfying parts of this thread. As a traditional retailer Sears was probably going to be under pressure no matter what due to competition from Walmart + online retailers and consumers generally having less disposable income. It's the know-it-all hedge fund star trying to recreate Galt's gulch and driving the company off a cliff in a highly public manner that makes it all so compelling. Too bad about all those people losing their jobs.
:capitalism:

This most recent article makes it clear Lampert understands his Randian experiment has failed and is trying to recoup as much of his investment as possible cannibalizing what remains of the company and real-estate shenanigans. A set of related quotes I thought were interesting:

quote:

In recent years, Mr. Lampert has played the role of Sears Holdings’s primary banker, collecting fees while providing loans to the operations side of the company. As a result, Mr. Lampert’s hedge fund and other entities hold a significant portion of Sears Holdings’s debt, in effect making him one of the company’s biggest lenders. The bulk of that debt is secured by property or inventory.

The debt ensures that even if Sears Holdings goes into bankruptcy, Mr. Lampert has a prominent seat at the table — and a voice in its future course — since debt-holders come before shareholders in working out a corporate restructuring through the courts.

Alternative Endings Seen for Sears and Its Hedge Fund Chief

quote:

The liabilities on its balance sheet top $13 billion, including more than $4 billion of debt or debt-like obligations and nearly $2 billion more earmarked for pensions.

I'm guessing pension holders aren't prioritized very highly during corporate restructuring.

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

Baronjutter posted:

But as a side effect no one has any money for retail, everything's invested in housing. And the bubble drives retail leases up because the previously cheap land that 1 story retail building was on is now worth 4x as much because you could jam a 50 unit condo building on it instead. Don't worry the new condo building will have some shiny new retail units on the bottom, but the lease will be 3x as expensive and they are more than ok keeping them empty until they find someone who will pony up.

I will never understand this, it's like opportunity cost doesn't exist for commercial real estate owners. AFAIK the owners in these situations are holding-out for the mythical tenant who will accept a long-term lease and can pay the outrageous rent (ie a bank branch), but there are prime-storefronts that have been vacant for years in my not-cheap area and it's unclear how the math works out.

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

BarbarianElephant posted:

K-Mart in Manhattan has a garden department. Most people in Manhattan have a balcony at best, and if they are rich enough to have a real yard, it is teeny-tiny and a landscaping firm deals with it.

Next to the garden department is row upon row of cheap junk food, still in health-obsessed Manhattan.

If you ever feel overwhelmed by city life, go to the K-Mart in Astor Place for 50,000 sq feet of beautiful solitude in one of the most expensive areas of real estate in the world.

Passing through Penn Station frequently I can confirm the K-Mart there is also as depressing and abandoned as you can imagine. I'd always assumed they only held such pricey locations due to lucking into some kind of decades long-lease signed long ago and were now paying well below market value. Looking into it apparently they're just vanity projects championed by clueless executives:

The New York Times posted:

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In a major push, Kmart is opening two huge new stores, one on 34th Street adjoining Pennsylvania Station, which opens tomorrow, the other on Broadway between Eighth and Ninth Streets, which will open next month. The company, swallowing the high operating costs, is going for volume. Each store will be expected to contribute more than $50 million in sales.
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They are intended as visible displays of corporate vigor to the often skeptical financial community of Wall Street analysts, many of whom live and work in Manhattan.

They will be conduits to a new market that most Kmarts have never touched: the foreign tourists swarming through Manhattan. Mr. Johns, the manager at 34th Street, said his head is dancing with the idea of announcements for the spur-of-the-moment blue-light-special sales in various foreign languages.
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Unique in all of Kmart's domain is also that standard-size 13-foot-high tractor-trailers cannot enter Manhattan, because of bridge, tunnel and loading dock restrictions. Thus, Manhattan's stores will be the only ones with a dedicated fleet: 42 trucks had two and half feet sawed off their tops to meet a 10-foot-6-inch restriction. They will operate from a warehouse in North Bergen, N.J.
...

Volume!

This was back in 1996 if you needed more evidence that K-Mart's problems didn't begin with Lampert.

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

State controlled liquor monopolies are a fascinating glimpse of what greater government control over the commercial sector could look like in a socialist economy. The results are mixed, for example in Ontario the govt liquor distributor is the LCBO and provides a selection and prices that compare favorably anywhere I've been in the US. Somehow the LCBO generally provides a wider selection of beers than the provincial Beer Store, which until recently strove for the "depressing warehouse" shopping experience.

On the subject of this thread I'm surprised that Amazon can't sell liquor online in my current jurisdiction (NY state), it's exactly the sort of mass-produced non-perishable commodity where they should be able to destroy conventional retail. There are of course other online distributors that deliver here but they are somehow more expensive than the stores.

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

By every single reasonable metric, average standard of living has gone up in the United States for the last 50 years. Even for people in the bottom 20%.

Admitting that things are better for the average person is not conceding that everything is perfect or saying that nothing needs to fixed.

Even with healthcare and education significantly outpacing wages, the decrease in costs for almost everything else and the increase in wages means that the average person in the U.S. has more disposable income at the end of the day after they pay for food, housing, education, healthcare, transportation, and clothing than they did in the "golden age" of the 1950's.

Inflation-adjusted median household income, median disposable income, and employment are all at or near record levels this year.

That doesn't even include the non-monetary things like the incredible access to information or "black people can live in a neighborhood with white people" that have improved the lives of the bottom quintile.





(Squints) The 50% contribution vs time does have an overall average positive slope so this is correct.

Nocturtle fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Sep 24, 2018

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Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Holdings of wealth is not even close to the same thing as standard of living.

Quoted in the USA TYOOL 2018. Also note the posted plot does NOT show wealth share but actual wealth.

But anyway we're in agreement. In addition to the very large increase in net wealth for below-median Americans over the past 50 years there are also similarly large increases in total income for the lower quantiles:

There's a lot of complaining about the immiseration of the middle class but it's not supported by the data.

On topic the demise of Sears is fascinating as will the inevitable post-mortem. At some point Lampert switched from trying to create a Randian-inspired utopia to naked looting.

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