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KingEup
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NIDA is having trouble coming to grips with the new Monitoring the Futures report:

quote:

American voters and legislatures increasingly are allowing medical and adult recreational use of marijuana, but as home-growing spreads and retail stores open, younger teens are reporting the scarcest availability in at least 24 years.

“I don’t have an explanation. This is somewhat surprising,” says Dr. Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, which commissions the annual survey.

“We had predicted based on the changes in legalization, culture in the U.S. as well as decreasing perceptions among teenagers that marijuana was harmful that [accessibility and use] would go up. But it hasn’t gone up,” she says. http://www.usnews.com/news/data-mine/articles/2016-12-13/marijuana-is-harder-than-ever-for-younger-teens-to-find


Also quotes noted shitlord Kevin Sabet who is trying to spin the stats in his favour:

quote:

"This year's results should be a wake-up call to all of us," says former presidential drug policy adviser Kevin Sabet, leader of the national anti-legalization group Smart Approaches to Marijuana.

"We are seeing heartening declines in the use of almost every category of drug -- legal or illegal -- except for marijuana," he says. "The policy environment of legalization, acceptance and commercialization is making marijuana the exception."


The news of the day though is the new Canadian report which will form the basis of their approach to regulating cannabis properly: http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/task-force-marijuana-groupe-etude/framework-cadre/alt/framework-cadre-eng.pdf

Canadian liqour accelerated the decline of National Prohibition so I'm hoping the same thing will happen here.

KingEup fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Dec 14, 2016

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KingEup
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I expect the drug laws to remain hosed for some time, especially with this guy being appointed in the Trump administration:

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/hypocrisy-of-legalizing-pot-undermines-americas-war-on-hard-core-drugs-general-says

KingEup
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Spangly A posted:

Sativex is a UK pharmaceutical, it was briefly used by the NHS I think? It has no significant clinical properties (it doesnt work).

e; if we actually want legalised medical uses then anyone using medical products that flat out don't work will not further that cause, or that of further research

Sativex is pretty much the only whole plant cannabis extract that has a significant research base. Where are you gettng your information?

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A team at Simon Fraser University has worked out that cannabis addled driving increases your risk of having an accident by a whopping 18%.

They are also kind enough to point out that driving with a blood alcohol content of 0.05 (the acceptable limit in many places) increases your risk of having accident by a mere 500%-600%.

http://drugpolicy.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/CDPC_Cannabis-and-Driving_Evidence-Review-Full_Jan31-2017_FINAL.pdf

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TapTheForwardAssist posted:

I swore an oath to follow the law – all the laws, as written by the Texas Legislature. I don’t get to pick and choose which laws I enforce

Wait, doesn't he realise that you are trying to change the law because not every law ought to be?

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TapTheForwardAssist posted:

Both in DC and here, it's always been baffling hearing people say "but you can't make weed legal, it's *illegal*!"

"Oh yeah? Well skateboards were once illegal and now they're not. It turns out you can make illegal things legal afterall!" http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36077122

This is actually I think a major roadblock to reform in my opinion. Lots of people seem to think that there are actually substances that are inherently illegal. They don't seem to realise that substances are illegal only because someone called them illegal at some point.

KingEup fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Feb 17, 2017

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nawcom posted:

Leafly Investigation: California Has a Dirty Cannabis Problem

This is a good article to read but I'll give you some highlights




This is specifically for California as Colorado, Oregon and Washington apparently have rules set for testing before legally selling. Stuff like this really makes me worry about the states that legalized it for medical use only - including my own state - as I'd assume they also have looser rules on cannabis testing.


We should have had USP medicinal cannabis products years ago.

There are only a handful of medicinal cannabis companies I would trust... and the only three that come to mind are GW Pharma, Bedrocan, Cannimed, none of which are US based. No one with a compromised immune system should be inhaling the bullshit they are selling from the local 'Farmacy'.

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Hmm... spillover. AFAIK cannabis is prohibited in some of neighbouring states who are complaining about Colorado. Is the AG arguing that the policy of prohibition isn't able to stop cannabis from crossing the border?

Here's a question for the AG: were the laws prohibiting cannabis stopping cannabis from crossing the border before Colorado legalised it? No? You say even more cannabis is crossing the border now? So prohibtion is actually even less effective than you originally believed?

The more they complain the better!

KingEup fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Feb 28, 2017

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Keith Humphries (one of Kleiman's buddies) is in the Washington Post claming that mass incarceration has nothing to do with unjust drug laws:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/02/08/what-we-get-wrong-about-mass-imprisonment-in-america

quote:

The white rate of being sentenced for drug crimes (15 percent) is actually slightly higher than that for blacks (14.9 percent) and Hispanics (14.6 percent)


See? No racial disparities, move along please, nothing to see here.

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What's moderate drinking, one or two standard drinks? As a teetotaller one standard drink would definitely put me in a drug affected state. I suspect the people claiming that not all drinkers drink to get drunk already have a tolerance and just don't realise. Why they believe that regular cannabis users don't develop a tolerance is beyond me.

KingEup fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Mar 1, 2017

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Yeah, there seems to be a belief that being drunk is an either or state with no regard for the fact that there is a continuum of intoxication.

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

"I'm not vomiting or making GBS threads myself and can generally stand erect"

Which of course are definitely not signs of overdose.

KingEup fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Mar 1, 2017

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New gallup? Shows majority Republicans support cannabis relegalisation for the first time ever.

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Heh:

https://twitter.com/tomangell/status/924764093378187264
https://twitter.com/stevefoxvss/status/924796751139233794

Wonder how noted shitlord Kevin Sabet is going explain this.

KingEup fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 30, 2017

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https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/938550088632283136

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Oregon has a massive marijuana overproduction problem. In 2017 alone, postal agents in Oregon seized 2,644 pounds of marijuana in outbound parcels and over $1.2 million in cash.

Sounds more like the rest of the country has a prohibition problem.

lol at 'we aren't doing a very good job at preventing cannabis from leaving the state'.

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Dmitri-9 posted:

Diversion attracts federal attention. Colorado had a big problem but they limited the number of plants medical patients could grow to give less of a fig leaf to illegal grows.

They make it sound like there was no cannabis being exported from OR prior to legalisation.

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Study:

quote:

Alcohol Sales Dropped 15% In States With Medical Marijuana Laws...

...The overall conclusion of the study is that marijuana and alcohol are strong substitutes for each other.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomaspellechia/2018/01/22/alcohol-sales-dropped-15-percent-in-states-with-medical-marijuana-laws/#69a25fdc5f22

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From the official DEA twitter account:

https://twitter.com/DEAHQ/status/971838996610519040?s=20

They really are living in a parallel universe.

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Turns out Patrick Kennedy isn't the only Kennedy with bad opinions:

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JOE KENNEDY III: So this one, um, this one’s a tough one for me. My views are not do not exactly line up with my own state and it’s something I’m struggling with. I think, look, there’s—when it comes to legalization of marijuana, if that’s something that society has decided that we want to do, fine. I think we’ve got to be really careful about what exactly that means and how we do it. So, we decriminalized it when I was in the court system, when I was trying cases, or shortly thereafter, if I remember the years right, in Massachusetts. When we decriminalized it it actually had a pretty big consequence for the way that Massachusetts prosecutors went about trying cases in terms of—because an odor of marijuana was, at last initially, because marijuana was an illegal substance, if you smelled it in a car, you could search a car. When it became decriminalized you couldn’t do that. So that was the way that we hadn’t—the base case that prosecutors used to search cars for under cover contraband, guns, knives, a whole bunch of other stuff, all of that got thrown out the window. That’s not to say that’s right or wrong, but that is to say that when that went through a public referendum, which is how that law was passed, I don't think anybody had much though to you’re actually gonna change one of the foundational principles for law enforcement that we use in our court system.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/03/30/25976878/the-great-white-nope-joe-kennedy-iii-disqualifies-himself

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The year is 2018 and individuals can still get away with calling cannabis a gateway drug to heroin: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5763679871001/#sp=show-clips

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Dmitri-9 posted:

In my opinion this is good news because unscheduled drugs that come from botanical sources are exempt from a lot of FDA regulation.

Any substance which is sold with a therapeutic claim is defined as a drug by the FDA whether it comes from a botanical or not.

If I sold you a handful of walnuts and said they treat depression then the FDA would classify those walnuts as unapproved drugs. The therapeutic claim I made causes them to be a drug.

KingEup fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Apr 18, 2018

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Mark Kleiman is dead.

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RBC and Kleiman’s clique are a bunch of prohibitionists whose only distinction is that they’re slightly smarter than Michele Leonhart in that they can read a poll, so they’re furiously digging a second trench of the Drug War slightly behind the current one, where they might agree with some abstract idea of ending prohibition on cannabis but will find endless disagreements with any actual framework that attempts to implement it, whether it’s their fear of a price floor, their SAHMSA addiction figures inflated by treatment-or-jail sentencing, the ludicrous scare stories about Big Marijuana, or proposing ignorant regulations like banning sweeteners from cannabis edibles (gotta make them completely disgusting, For The Children). If it’s not some idiosyncratic Cass Sunstein fantasy like a state monopoly monitoring people’s weekly intake to make sure they’re not stoners then they won’t have it. And don’t even talk to them about any of the harder stuff, what are you some Kochhead libertarian?

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Hey guys, if we inject people with pure THC the go psychotic:

https://twitter.com/ErikMessamoreMD/status/1176585412845998085?s=20

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https://twitter.com/aribindi/status/1197304392308813824?s=21

Cannabis is more dangerous to the adolescent brain than alcohol. I did not know this

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The comments on noted shitlord Kevin Sabet’s twitter feed are quite something these days:

https://twitter.com/KevinSabet/status/1332376531327279104?s=20

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Cabbages and Kings posted:

this is my early pick for dumbest loving drug war quote of 2021.

You haven’t seen Sabet’s latest though:

https://www.newsweek.com/countless-lives-have-been-cut-short-marijuana-opinion-1584819

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Cannabis legalisation is making it harder to arrest black people:

https://twitter.com/stevetransform/status/1455989926458273802?s=21

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Inspector Hound posted:

There's always the possibility other countries are more cautious about legalization because the legalization of cannabis in member countries is banned by a UN convention that's probably followed more closely than most of the ones against war crimes

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the Single Convention is the only United Nations treaty characterising the activity it seeks to regulate, control or prohibit as being ‘evil’.

quote:

neither slavery,25 apartheid26 nor torture27 are described as being ‘evil’ in the relevant international conventions that prohibit them. Nuclear war is not described as being ‘evil’ in the treaty that seeks to limit the proliferation of atomic weapons, despite the recognition in the preamble that ‘devastation that would be visited upon all mankind’ by such a conflict.28 The closest one finds to the language contained in the preamble to the Single Convention to describe drugs is that found in international instruments in the context of genocide. For example, in describing the crimes committed during the Second World War, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights uses the term ‘barbarous acts’
https://www.hr-dp.org/contents/669

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The prohibs have found a new way to poo poo on cannabis law reforms:

https://twitter.com/nbeaudrot/status/1536002828275052544?s=21&t=YOKW6SbsiQqDh5Jibkgocg

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The Thai can be so drat cool at times.

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