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Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Well What Now posted:

ever go to Sooners games or OKC sports bars?

Not really. I did go to a thing in the city a few weeks ago with some state legislators but it was a nonpartisan organization hosting and the only big name there iirc was House Minority Leader Scott Inman.

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mrfreeze
Apr 3, 2009

Jon Arbuckle: Master of pleasuring women

Well looks like I will be on the rules committee from my district in advance of the Michigan State Convention in February. Assuming my District Chair doesn't stab me in the back and pick someone else. I don't think many other people want the job though so I should be safe.

My best advice for new politigoons: be respectful as hell to everyone you meet. You never know who's important. I sat next to a guy at a state central meeting talking for an hour and only found out yesterday he was the chair of the Veterans Caucus that I had been trying to get on the phone for over a week.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

GlyphGryph posted:

Glad the meeting is back on!

hosed up the spelling of Brevard p bad lol

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
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ARROOOOOO!

mrfreeze posted:

Michigan goons, this is what is coming up!

So our state convention is on February 11th. You have to be a registered member of the party at least 30 days before that to get a vote. You can join by doing the electronic application at https://michigandems.com or print off a paper copy if you can't afford to donate to the party right now. If you do the paper route, and are in the metro Detroit area, pm me because we will be having someone hand deliver a stack of new member applications to Lansing soon to make sure they don't get "lost in the mail".

Also, this Friday we are having an event at US 12 bar and grille in Wayne. We have speakers from the major state caucuses, from an outside progressive group, and an incredibly amazing judge all coming out to speak on what you can do and why you should get involved. The event starts at 7 pm, and you can RSVP here

https://www.facebook.com/events/1823005154647500/?ti=cl we will have party sign up sheets on site, and all we ask is you eat and drink well and tip the wait staff.

I'm doing a lot more stuff but it would take too long to phonepost about. Will try to make an effort post later.

I will be at this, and want to get more into Michigan politics. Are you in District 13?

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

I've got three DSA chapters within 2 hours' drive - one new, one well-established but fulla oldies, and one established but full of terribly earnest young activists. As a fledgling in the area of socialism and politics I should probably stick with the new group, right?

mrfreeze
Apr 3, 2009

Jon Arbuckle: Master of pleasuring women

The Groper posted:

I will be at this, and want to get more into Michigan politics. Are you in District 13?

Yes I am! I will be more or less mcing the event Friday night so definitely come up and ask me about the lack of stairs in my home! Also in case you don't know already, district 13s monthly meeting is Saturday morning and the holiday party is Saturday evening. Drop me a pm if you want more info I could definitely use some solid younger folks at our meetings!

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008
If you're in California and you're trying to be an assembly district delegate, it sounds like it'd be really useful to try to get into contact with one of your local clubs. Beyond bringing your friends to vote for you, they might have a slate of delegates they tell people to vote for. Try to get in on that, if it exists. I think you'll be way more likely to be successful than if you're on your own. Assuming there are more than 14 candidates that is.

mrfreeze
Apr 3, 2009

Jon Arbuckle: Master of pleasuring women

Meeting with the guy in charge of the UAW political wing today to ask his advice on how to get an amendment to the state party rules through that would provide more representation to the under 35 crowd as well as minority groups within our party structure. (Women are already guaranteed a 50/50 split of seats, so I didn't forget them!)

Then I have to go pay for the venue for Friday and tell them how I want it set up.

Then a job interview.
Today is going to be stress city.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

I've got three DSA chapters within 2 hours' drive - one new, one well-established but fulla oldies, and one established but full of terribly earnest young activists. As a fledgling in the area of socialism and politics I should probably stick with the new group, right?
That and you have to increase communication between the three groups so the new people actually stay motivated.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Lemming posted:

If you're in California and you're trying to be an assembly district delegate, it sounds like it'd be really useful to try to get into contact with one of your local clubs. Beyond bringing your friends to vote for you, they might have a slate of delegates they tell people to vote for. Try to get in on that, if it exists. I think you'll be way more likely to be successful than if you're on your own. Assuming there are more than 14 candidates that is.

My district appears to have a total of five candidates, what the hell? Supposedly they are electing 14 (7 men and 7 women).

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Vox Nihili posted:

My district appears to have a total of five candidates, what the hell? Supposedly they are electing 14 (7 men and 7 women).

They might not have finished updating the page yet, it's manually done and slow. I sent mine in a day and a half ago and I'm still not up.

It's also possible not enough people will sign up at all, so you should put your name in and win probably!

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Also, any idea what the E-Board (Executive Board, presumably) does relative to the regular delegates?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Vox Nihili posted:

Also, any idea what the E-Board (Executive Board, presumably) does relative to the regular delegates?

iirc you get to go to one more state party convention

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008
I think it's actually 2 more, and there's only about 300 total instead of 3,000, so you are More Powerful

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Well I signed up for the regular delegate thing, don't know if I have the time for E-Board shenanigans.

Going to get my girlfriend to sign up too, why the gently caress not.

Former Everything
Nov 28, 2007


Is this right?
A quick note regarding the Kentucky Democratic Party:

I have attempted to contact the state communications chair, the state head of the party and the local chairs of the Kentucky Democratic Party regarding involvement including possibly meeting with party leaders to discuss potential local or state-level candidacy. I got back a single form email from the local Democratic party asking me to sign up for the newsletter, which I did.

I got two form emails asking for donations, both of which were addressed to a name other than mine. Sounds like things are really getting organized.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


I wonder what trying to join the Republican party is like? Is it equally difficult, or is it more streamlined? That might explain why they've got better ground game.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

:toot:

ChickenOfTomorrow has issued a correction as of 22:14 on Jan 21, 2017

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

The first rule of No Avatar Club is: you do not talk about No Avatar Club. The second rule of No Avatar Club is: you DO NOT talk about No Avatar Club
Grimey Drawer

Pollyanna posted:

I wonder what trying to join the Republican party is like? Is it equally difficult, or is it more streamlined? That might explain why they've got better ground game.

My understanding of the Tea Party is that they basically ran into similar issues with the Republican Party local groups when they were getting started, and that part of their ferocity had to do with how frustrated they were because of it.

The Republican Party seems a lot more responsive and open than the Democratic Party right now, and I think that's because the Tea Partiers cracked it open like ten years ago (not actually sure about the exact time frame).

I don't have any quotable evidence for this, but I'd be curious if anyone has any supporting or contradictory opinions.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Former Everything posted:

A quick note regarding the Kentucky Democratic Party:

I have attempted to contact the state communications chair, the state head of the party and the local chairs of the Kentucky Democratic Party regarding involvement including possibly meeting with party leaders to discuss potential local or state-level candidacy. I got back a single form email from the local Democratic party asking me to sign up for the newsletter, which I did.

I got two form emails asking for donations, both of which were addressed to a name other than mine. Sounds like things are really getting organized.

Send me an e-mail.

surfacelevelspeck
Oct 1, 2008

communism's sleepiest soldier

Barracuda Bang! posted:

My understanding of the Tea Party is that they basically ran into similar issues with the Republican Party local groups when they were getting started, and that part of their ferocity had to do with how frustrated they were because of it.

The Republican Party seems a lot more responsive and open than the Democratic Party right now, and I think that's because the Tea Partiers cracked it open like ten years ago (not actually sure about the exact time frame).

I don't have any quotable evidence for this, but I'd be curious if anyone has any supporting or contradictory opinions.

This doesn't surprise me in the least. Operational obscurity and intentional stonewalling of potential newcomers (and thus, potential threats to your power) is not a uniquely Democrat thing. We just have to make sure that angry Dems and progressives are mad and active enough to actually do the same thing the Tea Party did and make a hole in the wall.

Speaking of being active (perfect segue, 10/10)! The Williamson County Democrat Party is having their monthly meeting tonight at 6:45 at the Allan R Baca Center, Round Rock TX. If at all possible I'm going to be donating to join and volunteering/nominating myself for the position of Precinct 160 chair, because I really don't feel like waiting an entire month for something to maybe happen. It'd be nice if I could be joined by fellow goons doing the same for their respective precincts (if they're empty, since appointments can't be made to filled chairs).

Also happening today in Travis County, the Black Austin Democrats are meeting at 6:00 at the Precinct 1 Constable Building, 4717 Heflin Lane, Austin TX. If you're a black dem/progressive, or want to support black dems/progressives, or just want to go to a dem meeting and don't want to drive all the way up to Round Rock for a county meeting that's not even your own county, go to this meeting. There's no time like now to start building up your network of contacts, especially in communities that are likely to be hit hardest by Republican legislation.

GlyphGryph posted:

Send me an e-mail.

Something you might consider for your site: maybe a page that lets people submit requests for information for their local parties and sends an email to people willing to root out that information? I'd be willing to try to find information regarding Texas parties, especially since I've already traded contact info with about a dozen or so connected people and might have a better chance to get information that a layman might have issues finding. Also could be useful is a resource that shows the meeting times/locations of state and county parties, either as some sort of searchable database or as State > County page links?

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
That's a good idea - if not for the site, at least for the OP! I'd be happy to have people take over regional investigations. Especially from Florida, since like half of my requests so far have been for there. :v:

If nothing else, do you have an e-mail I can use to send people your way when they come looking after Texas info?

quote:

Also could be useful is a resource that shows the meeting times/locations of state and county parties, either as some sort of searchable database or as State > County page links?

While this would be great, that's a pretty massive undertaking that I have nowhere near enough time to manage. Certainly something I would like to see the national party do, though.

surfacelevelspeck
Oct 1, 2008

communism's sleepiest soldier

GlyphGryph posted:

That's a good idea - if not for the site, at least for the OP! I'd be happy to have people take over regional investigations. Especially from Florida, since like half of my requests so far have been for there. :v:

If nothing else, do you have an e-mail I can use to send people your way when they come looking after Texas info?


While this would be great, that's a pretty massive undertaking that I have nowhere near enough time to manage. Certainly something I would like to see the national party do, though.

Sure, sending you a PM. And to the second point, yeah, I thought it might be a little too ambitious for a single person, but a list of "here's who to contact to get information about your local parties" is a really good first step.

mrfreeze
Apr 3, 2009

Jon Arbuckle: Master of pleasuring women

Yeah you can point any Michigan folks my way. I'm still learning where all the battle lines are in my local party, But I can at least make sure they know where their meetings are!

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

mrfreeze posted:

Yeah you can point any Michigan folks my way. I'm still learning where all the battle lines are in my local party, But I can at least make sure they know where their meetings are!

The majority of people who contact me don't have PMs, so if you could send me an email address it would be much appreciated.

mrfreeze
Apr 3, 2009

Jon Arbuckle: Master of pleasuring women

Sure. bass5020@gmail.com

BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


Trip report from Montgomery County, OH's dem holiday party/meeting:

Party membership is behind a minimum $25 paywall, which is necessary to become eligible to be nominated to the Central Committee, or to be elected to a Central Committee position during a Reorganization (the next one is during the 2018 primary). The Central Committee consists of 360 seats, one for each voting precinct, and is responsible for all policy decisions of the Party. Getting on this committee should be the primary goal of anyone wishing to change the direction of things here, as this is where the power lies. It seems that this party has very tenuous ties with the state level party as organizations (little more than the name and maybe some funding), meaning that making inroads to the state party and the local party need to be conducted as seperate independent efforts: one does not necessarily lead to the other.

There are several interest groups and regional/ethnic/age-based groups within the party, they seem to serve the purpose of fundraising and networking, but that's about it.

As far as the party attitude goes, it definitely feels like it has been a largely establishment "good ol boys/gals" club type of thing, but is now shook enough to at least be receptive to new membership, and is looking for more outreach options. Since the website loving sucks, I'm dumping all future meeting dates here:

Montgomery County Democratic Party
HQ is at 313 S Jefferson St, Dayton OH

Meetings for 2017: Jan 26, Feb 23, Apr 27, June 22, Sept 28
7:30pm

surfacelevelspeck
Oct 1, 2008

communism's sleepiest soldier

Got back from the Williamson County Democrat Party meeting about an hour ago; it was pretty cool, actually. The meeting itself was incredibly boring (it's primarily business stuff) but I was able to meet more of the county party members, and made my interest in being precinct chair semi-official. I also met a fellow goon who read my posts and decided to show up, and who expressed interest in being the precinct chair for his precinct, so I feel pretty fuckin' stoked about that.

I also apparently already have become something of a known figure, because before and after the meeting people were coming up to me and introducing themselves with "You're the new guy, aren't you? I'm <name>!".

fussydutchman1
Mar 25, 2016

Syndlig posted:

Got back from the Williamson County Democrat Party meeting about an hour ago; it was pretty cool, actually. The meeting itself was incredibly boring (it's primarily business stuff) but I was able to meet more of the county party members, and made my interest in being precinct chair semi-official. I also met a fellow goon who read my posts and decided to show up, and who expressed interest in being the precinct chair for his precinct, so I feel pretty fuckin' stoked about that.

I also apparently already have become something of a known figure, because before and after the meeting people were coming up to me and introducing themselves with "You're the new guy, aren't you? I'm <name>!".

Just want to say, reading this and other goons' stories about getting involved is a fantastic pick me up. Makes me feel motivated to get involved in MN. I'm in Ellison's district so I think the local party might be in pretty good hands, but I'm curious to see the dynamics of a party meeting. I don't really know what, if anything, I can do. I'd still be down to take on some simple grunt work just to help somehow.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Syndlig posted:

Got back from the Williamson County Democrat Party meeting about an hour ago; it was pretty cool, actually. The meeting itself was incredibly boring (it's primarily business stuff) but I was able to meet more of the county party members, and made my interest in being precinct chair semi-official. I also met a fellow goon who read my posts and decided to show up, and who expressed interest in being the precinct chair for his precinct, so I feel pretty fuckin' stoked about that.

I also apparently already have become something of a known figure, because before and after the meeting people were coming up to me and introducing themselves with "You're the new guy, aren't you? I'm <name>!".

:krad:

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
How do I use my influence in my universities college dems to hijack my local DNC? In a 60% Republican city.

Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."
So trying to get involved up here in Buffalo seems to be kind of a shitshow. As far as I can tell, the local organization is the Erie County Democrats. Their website is a facebook feed + a big READY FOR HILLARY banner. Membership- as far as I can tell, which is limited- appears to be gated behind a 52$ yearly fee, which whatever, I've donated, because I got money. When you sign up, you can choose which committees you'd like to be considered for. I put a number of them, and then sent an email to the listed county chair asking for more details about what exactly each committee does and when they meet. I've got nothing back as a reply but "Thanks, look forward to meeting you!" and literally nothing else from the entire county party in the last month (I did all this in the days after the election). The absolute only thing I can find is a christmas party on Monday with a 50$ admission fee. I'm considering going out of sheer desperation that otherwise I may never actually meet any of these people. :v:

This poo poo is kind of frustrating. I also put myself in as a volunteer literally 'wherever you might need people'. I have money to donate! I have time to volunteer! Let me help you!

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

i suggest forcing your way in, like half of the people on this forum trying to get involved had to do that because the democratic party is a shitshow

ps you don't need money to do this just some form of transportation and the capacity to be belligerent

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

I'm bouncing around New England atm, but I'm registered to vote in Connecticut. Any advice for someone like me? The local Democrat party is mostly just a vector for graft in my hometown, so much so that the Republican controlled town council got a very progressive infrastructure bill passed in spite of them. CT seems like a microcosm for the problems of the larger party.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
If you are bouncing around a lot you might be better of joining a more focused butg geographically distributed advocacy group than getting involved with the Dems directly

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsD59byZkl0

It is worth shoving this video in a lot of faces when you get the chance to. White working class is not a neolithic voting block.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Mukaikubo posted:

So trying to get involved up here in Buffalo seems to be kind of a shitshow. As far as I can tell, the local organization is the Erie County Democrats. Their website is a facebook feed + a big READY FOR HILLARY banner. Membership- as far as I can tell, which is limited- appears to be gated behind a 52$ yearly fee, which whatever, I've donated, because I got money. When you sign up, you can choose which committees you'd like to be considered for. I put a number of them, and then sent an email to the listed county chair asking for more details about what exactly each committee does and when they meet. I've got nothing back as a reply but "Thanks, look forward to meeting you!" and literally nothing else from the entire county party in the last month (I did all this in the days after the election). The absolute only thing I can find is a christmas party on Monday with a 50$ admission fee. I'm considering going out of sheer desperation that otherwise I may never actually meet any of these people. :v:

This poo poo is kind of frustrating. I also put myself in as a volunteer literally 'wherever you might need people'. I have money to donate! I have time to volunteer! Let me help you!
Absolutely go to the party. Treat it like one of those campus recruitment fairs: dress up, be ready to recite what on your resume should strike them as relevant, make sure you follow the various rules (if it says bring a dish to pass, bring one) and offer to keep up their website (assuming you're capable of HTML). Chances are they will fall all over themselves to say 'oh God yes please.' Bring a friend if you can. Once you've taken a look at what needs to be done you can start either making suggestions or outright starting to do it and keeping them in the loop, e.g. 'hey you mentioned you were looking into X so I saw Y and Z and created this thing to help with X, thanks for the heads up!' Making it seem like their brilliant idea will go a long way towards letting you do what you want in getting their asses in gear.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

White working class is not a neolithic voting block.
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pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

Former Everything posted:

A quick note regarding the Kentucky Democratic Party:

I have attempted to contact the state communications chair, the state head of the party and the local chairs of the Kentucky Democratic Party regarding involvement including possibly meeting with party leaders to discuss potential local or state-level candidacy. I got back a single form email from the local Democratic party asking me to sign up for the newsletter, which I did.

I got two form emails asking for donations, both of which were addressed to a name other than mine. Sounds like things are really getting organized.

Yeah Kentucky Dems suck - just an opportunity to succeed! I think we have four Kentucky democrat goons in here, we could run the whole party. Get in close with Jim Gray or maybe Mayor Fischer in Louisville, they're probably going to run against Bevin in '19 and he should be very very defeatable by then because his ratings are just so damned low.

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Zberan Madowinty
Dec 7, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BurntCornMuffin posted:

Equally important is for us to additionally provide compelling solutions in contrast, and also be seen not as a faceless government party that only climbs out of its hermitage every four years, but as concerned neighbors who are involved our communities, and easily reached. Community outreach should be a big part of the local strategy.

Agreed. If the GOP kills medicare, for example, I really think we have to put forward how we can make healthcare work again. People will be dealing with devastating healthcare costs, to the point where even insured a car accident can bankrupt you. That's simply not how things can work.

I have two major points (need to really flesh out which of my other positions can stand as the third leg):

1) If you want to save money, there are a few approaches a government can take, but by far the best approach is investing heavily into education. Better education = less crime, less drugs, more opportunities. If I were forced to decide I could only spend money on one thing as a governor of the commonwealth, it'd be education by far. The benefits of a well-educated populace are amazing.

2) If you want businesses to grow, don't hand out tax cuts to mega rich people who are just going to fund their other rich friends' business ideas or just hoard their money. You hand out those tax cuts to middle class people who want to start new businesses. That's strong, local growth. I'll help out the guy who wants to open a Little Caesars franchise before I help out the CEO of Little Caesars. The CEO already has adequate padding that shields him from risk, we need to help the little guy get shielding from risk so we can get new ideas out into the marketplace.

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