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HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

ScrubLeague posted:

The GOP is not going to kill Medicare. It's incredibly politically popular and essential to the people who keep the GOP in office. Medicare will be fine.

Best case scenario, the elderly get to keep their current benefits and everyone else loses theirs. Do not underestimate how distanced from reality the GOP is right now

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HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
I'm in the process of moving out of Austin, TX so I'm not really in a position to go to any meetings right now, but I plan on getting active when I move to Seattle in January. There's a special election in a lean R district in the Seattle suburbs and if the Dems can win it they'll have full control of the Washington state government, so I'm hoping to do some work to help win that seat.

This thread has been super :unsmith: to read right now, watching people make a change in their local parties. The upside of no one caring about local politics in America is that it doesn't take too much to make change happen on a local level if you can organize and get new people on board.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
You could probably make some quick bank for offering to make functional websites for local Dems on the cheap

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Here's something that's been floating around that might be of interest for this thread. Some former congressional staffers wrote a paper on how to resist Trump based on the political strategies of the Tea Party: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DzOz3Y6D8g_MNXHNMJYAz1b41_cn535aU5UsN7Lj8X8/

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Probably the best thing we can be doing in the short term is calling Dem party members and getting them to support Ellison, cutting the legs off of Perez's run early. Everything we're doing in this thread is for naught if we can't get a DNC chair that recognizes the value of building strong local grassroots support for the party.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
The problem with Perez isn't his ideology, it's his experience. The DNC needs to completely rethink the way it supports local parties and builds grassroots support, which is something Ellison is running on and Perez has no experience with. Perez's entire campaign is just him taking Ellison's ideas and hastily saying "me too", which says to me that he has no real ideas or plans moving forward and is just running because the Obama camp wants someone from their circle in charge instead of an outsider. There's nothing that Perez brings to the table that isn't being offered already by Ellison in a more competent and energizing way.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
speaking of reddit, are there any worthwhile subreddits for Dem organizing?

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
You should also grill him on obstructing the Republicans. One of the most important things we need to do right now is to radicalize Dems Tea Party-style by pressuring against "compromise" with Trump.

(btw, the link in your post is broken for me)

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Race Realists posted:

looking on the OP, and i dont see any mississippi/north carolina/new orleans/tennessee goons listed

we need to be everywhere, guys :smith:

Veyrall in the DND Effective Leftism thread is trying to organize in Mississippi. The link should probably go in the OP: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3798064

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

I posted this a few weeks ago and got slagged because it didn't have any sections on how to primary neoliberals. Really glad to see that this strategy is already paying dividends though.

It would be really cool if there was a guide on how to successfully primary incumbents, but I think that most people forget that the Tea Party's power was mostly psychological; they weren't that successful when it came to primarying incumbents but they were able to successfully project the appearance that they could using these techniques.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Gringostar posted:

Bob Bennett, David Dewhurst, Cliff Stearns, and Eric Cantor would disagree with you that they weren't that successful in primarying incumbents, but primarying incumbents is a bitch no matter what and for each of those successes there were a bunch of failures.

I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, just that the ability to make a politician beleive that they could be successfully primaried is more important than the primary challenge itself

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

GlyphGryph posted:

Hey I figured setting up a discord room would be cool if anyone is interested.

https://discord.gg/JUfxf

The link is broken.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
News is trickling in from the California ADEM elections and it's looking pretty good. Candidates on progressive slates won:

- All 14 seats and the election board seat in the 9th District: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalRevolutionCA/comments/5ms1vy/we_won_1414_seats_and_eboard_in_the_9th_district/
- All 14 seats in the 29th District: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalRevolutionCA/comments/5mo5bc/bernie_democrats_will_all_the_delegate_seats_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalRevolutionCA/comments/5mre2e/29th_district_tally/
- The entire progressive slate (13 seats) won in the 68th District, unseating 20-year Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalRevolutionCA/comments/5mojgk/today_was_a_great_day_for_progressives/
- No tallies made public yet, but apparently progressives won majorities in the 26th, 32nd, and 34th Districts in the Central Valley: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalRevolutionCA/comments/5mwkfj/progressives_win_big_in_ad_26_32_and_34/
- 6/14 seats and the election board seat in the 17th District:
https://twitter.com/SFyimby/status/818380262790705152
- All 14 seats and the election board seat in the 78th District:
https://twitter.com/theguessworker/status/818440847028948992
- All 14 seats in the San Luis Obispo Count Dem committee: https://twitter.com/jonathantasini/status/817895581859213312
- This guy is tweeting about statewide ADEM results: https://twitter.com/jonathantasini Progressives won roughly 500/1120 delegate seats, with 15-20x the normal turnout in many districts

We won't know the full official tallies until around next week, but it's great to see increased activism already starting to pay off in practical ways.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
On the same note, progressives in Washington are making a lot of gains too: http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/progressives-want-tina-podlodowski-not-jaxon-ravens-to-lead-the-state-party/

Only a third of Dem committee seats have been voted on so far (elections are staggered out through December/January) but progressives have been seeing similar electoral sweeps and successfully ousted some major establishment figures, with the main goal being to elect enough delegates to replace the chairman of the WA Dems.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
found a semi-complete list of CA ADEM results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MRMu7qklC-8boWbid4ETHvIA0jnfMjo4WfTStYdNKIk/edit#gid=0

there's a few results that haven't come in yet but it's looking like progressive candidates won a majority of delegate and executive board seats, with many districts having most or all of their delegates primaried in favor of progressive slate candidates.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Ok, this really sucks, but you might be in a position to be a real troublemaker if you can learn the bylaws and other rules.

That said, it may not just be people trying to keep you out, it's probably also apathy and incompetence.

I think that 99% of the time it's just apathy and inertia, from old establishment Dems in districts either too blue to be challenged in or too red to have a chance in, and don't put in the effort to make things more accessible because new blood is hard to come by in the first place. I'm really hopeful that the success in the CA elections can be repeated elsewhere because those turnout numbers were huge; hundreds of people who don't usually participate in local politics suddenly showed up to vote for outsider candidates and shook things up immediately. Most American politicians depend on political apathy/inertia and a sudden influx of new blood can change things very quickly.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Here's a pretty interesting article on how to organize a takeover of local Dem parties on the precinct level: https://pplswar.wordpress.com/2017/01/09/how-to-take-over-your-local-democratic-party-step-by-step/#more-11951

It's primarily focused on NC but I'd imagine that a lot of it useful for organizing in other states as well.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Grognan posted:

Got me and my fiance on the central committee for our county party(Washoe County, NV). I know I am a salt cynic but we're going to vote some people into the executive board.

Speaking of posts like these, is there a good place to find news on local Dem party elections like this? I've been searching and haven't found much outside of a few states, and I'm not sure if that's due to a lack of organization or if the elections haven't happened yet. The next month or so is going to be critical for getting progressives inside the Dems' internal power structures and it would be nice to know where we stand as a whole.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

So uh I noticed the WA state senate has an empty seat and is currently tied R/D so whoever gets that seat would be the decider. Anyone in WA wanna check in on the status of that?

Yeah there's a special election this year in Kirkland because their R representative died, and the district is a lean R suburb of Seattle so it's definitely flippable with the right organization and turnout. IIRC there's also another special election in Pierce County because an R representative is vacating their seat, so there are two chances this year for Dems to take full control of the WA state government.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Slack just sounds like a less convenient version of Discord

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Here's something that may be of interest to the thread: https://knockeverydoor.org/

A bunch of former Bernie staffers are putting together a massive canvassing operation, with the goal being to not only discuss issues with voters one-on-one, but to also collect information on voters' concerns and use that data to build political networks on a local level.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
This is a new program that's been gaining steam in the last few days to target swing districts. Maybe it might be of some interest here:

https://twitter.com/swingleftorg/status/822962986625224704

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Someone on reddit made a pretty good guide on how to campaign for local office: https://www.reddit.com/r/Political_Revolution/comments/5pg7bq/how_to_run_for_local_office_a_small_guide_by/

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Someone made a pretty great tool for calling representatives: https://5calls.org/

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

LinYutang posted:

bernie folks basically succeeded in taking over the local convention here, because we organized and showed up

keep the fight going

What state is this?

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Hey here's a list of upcoming townhalls:

https://twitter.com/lauraolin/status/826420454739042304

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Trash Trick posted:

Hey, just found this thread and am about to catch up. After reading the OP I have a question though- the tactics described in indivisible seem to be slightly at odds with what is described in this thread, so I'm wondering if that's an accurate analysis. Indivisible talks about learning from what the tea party did right- and a big part of that is a concerted, pointed agenda of "NO" rather than actively pushing what we're passionate about. It's hard because we're progressives and we want to shape the world to be how we think it could be better, but it's more practical when the republicans have all the power.

So my question is basically, do y'all here see the tactics of constant pressure on members of congress to stand against literally everything Trump pushes as 'democratic party participation' ? Or should I maybe make a thread for indivisible if I'm looking for advice and discussions related specifically to that one strategic agenda? Because that's what I'm really fired up about. Tips on organizing boots on the ground to pressure, pressure, pressure.

Like this. this poo poo owns.

It's a two-pronged strategy. Obstruction and pressuring politicians works right now because we're not going to have a chance to change the makeup of Congress in a while, but we need to ready candidates for 2018 to flip seats and primary Dems. A Tea Party movement only works if you can convince representatives that their seats are in real danger.

I don't see why stuff like Indivisible can't go here, especially now that DSA stuff has its own thread

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Washington's elections are staggered throughout the winter, but I think the final election for party chair is supposed to be happening this month.

Someone on reddit put together a massive list of every single state office up for election this year that might be worth sharing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RBSMMtDEgrGaI4PghocLmMMCwr7M4ix3pJ56XWwiJ8k/edit#gid=430258101

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



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sincx posted:

Is there a website or other resource out there with a master list of upcoming protests/town halls/other progressive political events?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yq1NT9DZ2z3B8ixhid894e77u9rN5XIgOwWtTW72IYA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1473996386

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
White people automatically get defensive over the idea that institutional racism exists, it is not a framing issue

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Wow, that's great. Heard about the WA Dem chair race last month, glad to hear they were successful

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HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Here's an interesting look at what Indivisible is doing in Alabama

https://twitter.com/MikeElk/status/842431415904002050

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