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Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Venom Snake posted:

I'll be at a meeting of the Florida Baword County dems tomorrow to discuss rebuilding
did everyone grow a spine and collectively decided to tell the rich fucks to gently caress off? Glad things are going better than they seemed yesterday.

Pollyanna posted:

I mean I want to get involved, it just becomes an energy and effort investment for me, which doesn't always go well. but i'm interested in doing what I can, anyway. the DSA is still meeting the rest of this month, so i can go to the next one. the dem party, though, real tough to break in. oh well.
I'd focus on working with the DSA, it's a lot easier to reach/upend the democratic party from there than it is directly going to them (a telltale sign that your DNC chapter is loving useless), and it seems to be the case here in southern california as well

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Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

I've got three DSA chapters within 2 hours' drive - one new, one well-established but fulla oldies, and one established but full of terribly earnest young activists. As a fledgling in the area of socialism and politics I should probably stick with the new group, right?
That and you have to increase communication between the three groups so the new people actually stay motivated.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

i suggest forcing your way in, like half of the people on this forum trying to get involved had to do that because the democratic party is a shitshow

ps you don't need money to do this just some form of transportation and the capacity to be belligerent

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsD59byZkl0

It is worth shoving this video in a lot of faces when you get the chance to. White working class is not a neolithic voting block.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Barracuda Bang! posted:

3 is a bad idea and will disproportionately impact the working class in a negative way. Do you think that someone making minimum wage is going to get paid for that holiday? Of course they won't. They'll be short $100+ for the month, and two weeks of early voting with enough polling stations would be sufficient to make this unnecessary.
there are countries that have multi-day voting, the best suggestion i've heard of is make voting last a week instead of a holiday, and extend early voting to a longer period of time.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

to be very charitable, this thread is more than what the supposed "debate and discussion" forum has, and i'm not sure the IKs will want several threads about points of attack when the activist portion of this dead gay forum doesn't go past maybe 25 people

with this many, galvanizing what's already there though suggestion lists like that and getting local support is the best thing to suggest to people at the moment

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

that reminded me that i almost typed "monoliberal" an hour ago

where is my mind

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

gonna go up to the county dem offices this coming week to get some helpful materials and networking because six college kids annoying the gently caress out of reps can only do so much

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Homeless Friend posted:

No wonder they always bonk women over their heads and drag them back into the mancave.
eventually this won't actually be a joke

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Ace of Baes posted:

Got about 6 people so far willing to help me throw a coup of the local DNC. :getin:
:patriot:

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

my idiot dad broke his hand, hips, and feet putting up christmas lights on a ladder on unstable ground and have to tend to him so i can't go to the dem office meetings today and i go on a japan trip the week after :(

will probably start when i come back from japan

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democrats-open-to-replacing-obamacare-232589

i think we should start putting pressure on these people maybe going as far to ask if they'll eventually sign off on gas chambers

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Trabisnikof posted:

Why are you assuming Perez is against strong local grassroots? Just because Obama likes him?
that is hyperbole (he's done a lot for unions, especially on the legal side) but there's a more important factor

ellison knows how to rally the democratic base, perez not so much

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Trabisnikof posted:

People overestimate what the DNC chair can actually do.
if your benchmark of what the DNC chair can actually do is debbie wasserman schultz and not howard dean (granted, he was operating under the world of realpolitik which turned out to not make any loving sense at all come the tea party) i can see how you can think that

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Trabisnikof posted:

But what makes you say that?
keith ellison consistently wins a working class base (that happens to be mostly white) and locks down state legislature for the dems very well, perez is a very good legal agent for unions and workers, but doesn't have all that much experience in the election stuff

plus perez's race baiting bernie as the "white candidate" left a bitter taste in a lot of mouths here

Trabisnikof posted:

No even under Dean, I would say he wasn't that powerful. As much as liked the 50 state plan, his DNC never actually implemented it.

The DNC chair is important, but to me, I'm far more worried about this being a nasty DNC fight rather than who actually wins.

Democrats don't have the time or power to spare on infighting and bickering. Like if we have people later saying "yeah but you supported ____ for DNC chair" as an insult we're hosed.
the democratic leadership has spent roughly 30 years burying any progressive policy while pushing a largely right-wing economic model, even if this is purely symbolic the electorate just abstaining to vote for this election should at least be a wakeup call for congress dems for where the wind is blowing

Anime Schoolgirl has issued a correction as of 21:10 on Dec 16, 2016

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Does anyone have any ideas on inexpensive or free options for online meeting spaces. Stuff like WebEx or Google Hangouts? I'd like to have a few options try them out and see if they're suitable for larger scales. I'd like to make it easier for people who live in the outskirts or are disabled to participate in democratic meetings, even if it means just setting up phone conferences or something.
Facebook is usually an option for this sort of thing, but if you want live interaction phone conferences could work as well, though i don't know any internet services for that off the top of my head

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

unbutthurtable posted:

So, join and propose to the channel the idea of starting a committee to look into endorsing discord, present your reasoning, have people vote on it, and then schedule a time for a working group to meet to discuss the action, and then present that plan to the wider membership.

How is this so hard...?
taking a stand is a difficult thing for people too acclimated to the democratic party, give it a few days

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

bump_fn posted:

is there a better term for those than "anti-worker" or "anti-union" thats catchy? loving "right to work" is as bald faced a lie as "clean air act"
"right to be enslaved"
"right to be unpaid"
"right to minimum wage"

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

My dad's condition is improving except for the part where he's acting like a giant baby so I might actually start my democrat county office participation proper among the 50-60somethings trying to save Medicare :unsmith: next week :toot:

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

yellowyams posted:

locally we had some good wins, i'll be focusing on overthrowing republicans from our state govt but when I look at congress and see dems approving trump's cabinet picks and poo poo legislation even after these huge publicized showings of support like the women's march and constant phone calls to their office from constituents asking them to represent their interests i feel scared and powerless. like all this effort still isn't enough even for people who are supposed to be on our side. is there anything i can do if i'm not in their state?
these people didn't come into being out of nowhere. they failed upward into the system because enough people gave a negative poo poo.

getting involved in local politics is a great start, and if you can take office, that's even better.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

bump_fn posted:

hey this is the best thread i can think to ask about - anyone familiar with the DSA? they have a "what is the DSA?" introductory meeting and their (very very bad) now lists a whole bunch of related things that seem cool around chicago
the DSA is the only organized civic pac for the democratic party

let that sink in for a minute

and then join

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

if we want change to last it's also gotta be from the bottom up

which is why some of us are aiming for low-level government positions because congresspeople might actually listen to those instead of constituents that may end up not voting

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Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

bump_fn posted:

yup and think about those states and the fossil fuel industry
and the only damage they're going to end up doing is in those states b/c it turns out renewables are lucrative :capitalism:

literally voted to kill themselves :perfect:

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