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Only time I've been drugged tested was on hire both times in finance, not sure what's up with that. I've never had random drug-tests or anything.
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I can be randomly drug tested and polygraphed
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qntm posted:handing control of your computer to a third party by installing their software on it seems reasonable to you?
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Gazpacho posted:so that candidates can't cheat for the 60 minutes of a test? sure if your hiring process is so bad that you might actually accidentally hire someone who is enough of an idiot to cheat on an employment screen test just lmao
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Dec 9, 2016 17:24
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just have a separate laptop open for cheating, duh
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it's not a question of hte process being bad, rather that amazon is a huge company and thus is a target for scoundrels
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lancemantis posted:I can be randomly drug tested and polygraphed lol at polygraphs.
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St Evan Echoes posted:just have a separate laptop open for cheating, duh
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*opens email editor* dear conhugeco hr recruiter, even though I sent you guys a resume with my PII on it I've been reading some richard stallman essays and suddenly I feel like fighting the system. Will you please bend your early hiring process to my whims? Signed, berkeley bozo *hits send*
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nah, amazon deserves to be shamed for treating people like that and it is the responsibility of people who go through those experiences to let the world know that amazon's HR practices can suck a dick
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amazon is a prestigious cubicle farm you should be so honored to submit to their inspection
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nah for real tho, i'm not gonna work some place that doesn't start from the assumption that I'm a professional adult capable of generally doing work and stuff
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Dec 9, 2016 18:06
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Gazpacho posted:GL pulling that off on camera
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St Evan Echoes posted:"I don't have a webcam sorry" *proctor moves mouse to new tab, opens amazon website, orders most expensive webcam using your saved payment information*
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:nah, amazon deserves to be shamed for treating people like that and it is the responsibility of people who go through those experiences to let the world know that amazon's HR practices can suck a dick it seems that everyone who has ever worked at amazon says that it's a horrible meat-grinder company whether you are in corporate or packing boxes in a warehouse, so running people off early is doing them a favor.
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:amazon is a prestigious cubicle farm you should be so honored to submit to their inspection The_Franz posted:it seems that everyone who has ever worked at amazon says that it's a horrible meat-grinder company whether you are in corporate or packing boxes in a warehouse, so running people off early is doing them a favor. Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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amazon's stupid hiring practice is actually a filter. if you aren't willing to put up with that, you aren't willing to put up with their lovely culture and treatment of employees, so you shouldn't work there anyway. consider it their way of doing you a favor and warning you how terrible they are.
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yeah id believe that also lol @ "rampant tech job applicant cheating", its almost as toxic as the "we have to drug screen welfare recipients" attitude
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I wonder if there's still a 25 minute line for the men's bathrooms in amazon hq
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I've had phone interviews where I could literally hear the guy typing my questions into google and have him read me some answer from a website. upon deeper interrogation these things always fall apart because if they don't know the answer, finding it on the internet doesn't actually give them any insight into the details of the issue. any competent interviewer should be able to sniff this out easily.
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part of me is debating applying to smaller companies partly because I could use a raise cause I'm underpaid and can't rely on getting one (I also haven't interviewed in a long rear end time so practice helps), but in more general terms the companies would probably all be downgrades so it feels like why bother :\
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lancemantis posted:yeah id believe that i don't think it's rampant but it does happen. it happened to me: we had a contractor who gave us a fake resume and then (because the interview was remote) had someone else do the interview. the room was dark and you know, they looked similar enough that no one noticed he was a different person. things got weird on his first day when he didnt know what a text editor was. within a week he'd admitted to me that he'd faked the whole interview process and then he got canned. it was weird.
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lancemantis posted:yeah id believe that
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and lol if you didn't a) call them out on it b) just not hire them or even just wrap up that interview early nope lets just take the passive-aggressive nerd option and just subject candidates, already anxious due to this being an interview and everything, to a panopticon that is probably as measurable in effectiveness as online advertising
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During my phone interviews when they ask me a specific question that I don't know the answer to, I tell them I can google it real quick, but then explain to them what the significance of the answer is, and why I should care what it is. For example, "what is the 4th comparison for the BGP path-selection algorithm?" It's a reasonable thing for me to be aware of, but I don't immediately know what the answer is, but in the REAL WORLD, if I were in a position that I needed to figure out why traffic was taking a specific path. I'd google "BGP Path-Selection" and then work my way down the list so that I could then intelligently decide how I want to influence that path.
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lancemantis posted:and lol if you didn't
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Gazpacho posted:you're thinking about catching one cheater in one interview. A company of Amazon's size has to catch them out of thousands but it's at the cost of screening out all of the interviewees with self esteem
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the kind of self esteem that asks for money while refusing to prove itself, should be screened out
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Captain Foo posted:i have a good + cool job Sam e
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Gazpacho posted:the kind of self esteem that asks for money while refusing to prove itself, should be screened out lol 
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Gazpacho posted:the kind of self esteem that asks for money while refusing to prove itself, should be screened out maybe we should start having candidates start wearing some pretty pink panties during their on-sites i mean if they really want the job at Such A Prestigious Company they should be willing to submit to whatever hazing we choose, for whatever underlying motivations we might have for them
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if you're innocent you have nothing to hide
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lancemantis posted:maybe we should start having candidates start wearing some pretty pink panties during their on-sites its harder to program with a boner. pretty good idea, like goku wearing weighted clothing? next tier should be programming while under the desk of a pantyhose-laden babe. senior positions bark out their codes while strapped to a st andrews cross in a spiked chastity cage and getting flogged/electrocuted by a cadre of latex clad hr millenial vixens. needless to say if you can master Pwning by Logic under those circumstances, the holiday rush will be a breeze. some strats i learned while getting my mba at pepperdine. hth
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Dec 9, 2016 21:19
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if panty-wearing is specifically what the company is hiring people to do, sure go ahead if programming is what the company is hiring people to do, then candidates shall prove that they can program
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i guess amazon is hiring people to answer easily google-able programming trivia while under surveillance
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have a second phone under the desk and wear a bluetooth earpiece under long hair. checkmate
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poty posted:have a second phone under the desk and wear a bluetooth earpiece under long hair. checkmate *adjusting my loise brooks bob wig, straightening tie, spritzing binacca* Game time.
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kids on the bus loved binacca
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:nah, amazon deserves to be shamed for treating people like that and it is the responsibility of people who go through those experiences to let the world know that amazon's HR practices can suck a dick
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