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Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
that's the terrible secret, HR/management usually aren't surprised when people leave for more money. they know they were getting away with it.

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Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry

MeruFM posted:

we have a person with the role "distinguished architect"
he has no reports, but reports directly to the VP who reports to CTO

as far as I can tell, he basically plays with new langauges and technologies all day, create demos on the internal enterprise github, and yell at teams for how dumb they are to use some poo poo tier java infrastructure.

as a reclusive goon who can only yell at people instead of "managing" them, how do i get this position

thats a super good sign that your company will actually recognise individuals at that level without them managing people

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

it can also be a warning sign. we have "architect fellows" who are people who have been around 20+ years and they make the decisions on what technology we use. you all know what technology i work with. it can be a sign that the company sees rewarding loyalty as more important than promoting new ideas.

yeah fair enough. i'd like to say thats better than them being people managers still but it depends

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry

Illusive gently caress Man posted:

120k base/200k total comp or 1.5-2x what you make now, whichever is higher.

i'd want less at risk for a non sales role but otherwise you could do worse than making this your universal default

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry

C.H.O.M.E posted:

anyone who works in HR for a while has probably seen some poo poo, even in a normal office.

when I worked at bigtelco they had a dying at work policy covering the various contingencies that was part of the annual compliance training

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
my bonus is entirely KPI based because my company doesn't make any profit for tax reasons

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry

cis autodrag posted:

here it's every 5 years we get an extra 4 weeks off to take a trip anywhere we want and if it's to a country we haven't been to before they give you a 300 dollar per day stipend (less taxes) for it, plus flights. They basically end up covering your flight and hotels so I still had to save a bit of money to do it. im doing a big eurotrip but some stupid idiots take cruises and one extreme sperg forewent the stipend once because he just wanted 4 weeks off for the release of the new wow expansion.

hell yeah i thought leave loading was a dead concept

we get nine weeks paid leave after ten years but thats a government mandate.

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry

cis autodrag posted:

i made a new linkedin and applied for like 5 jobs. how do you fight the imposter syndrome. the whole time im filling this poo poo out my brainvoice just keeps telling me im not qualified and i could never do this stuff :(

get one of those jobs and then look around at your coworkers.

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

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ratbert90 posted:

Unless you are a single person without much stuff.

yeah if you have a family it's probably a no brainer. I did an interstate move and I was a single dude living in a share house, so I took the money, gave all my poo poo to my mates except for about four boxes, and just bought everything new

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
I gave eight weeks notice once and worked through it because it was eofy and I didn't want to ditch my sales team when they were trying to close things. also that way I qualified for my annual bonus that year. went to a competitor. at some point a decent handover is worth something to most places if they think you are basically trustworthy

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
i don't care if your resume is one, two or three pages just don't send me twelve. people still loving doing that

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
also there is an 'I'm looking for a job' tickbox you can flag that recruiters see:)

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
product manager gigs are the same, can be anything from a specialist in the marketing team to running a department with a p&l etc. gotta try to get a salary range up front or a really good JD to see how they value the role. decent recruiters understand this, the rest look up "Product Manager" on glassdoor or whatever and thats their price anchor.

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
sssh don't tell anyone but the a lot of the techbro dudes who claim to do eighty hour weeks and thats why they get paid so much are lying.

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry

MononcQc posted:

From experience, not having a degree hurts when trying to get a job and go through recruiters or HR who take a degree as
mandatory, when consulting (because agencies and those contracting them put on similar requirements) and if you're trying to emigrate anywhere -- not having a degree automatically puts you in the ´unqualified worker' bin no matter how much real world experience you have.

this has been my experience as well - i've been able to get into Product without a degree but my chances of getting a job outside Australia are basically zero unless i have an existing employer move me (hence me working for a Japanese owned company who are happy to sponsor visas anywhere they have an office). i don't think my half degree has stopped me getting anywhere so far but it would have made life a lot easier if I'd finished and given me more options if I wanted to be an engineer or whatever.

JewKiller 3000 posted:

here's the secret about everyone who succeeds in tech without a degree: they're all white :ssh:

also this

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

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Boiled Water posted:

why don't goo.gl just build apartments for their peons?

in places like korea where they do this companies still have some understanding that they are part of a social structure, and that perhaps that structure puts obligations on them to provide things to people further down the structure which will ultimately benefit the company (as well as reinforcing the hierarchical nature of the social structure). i don' think you'd find a single person at google who thought they had that sort of obligation.

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
yeah i think that might just stretch the self delusion bubble a bit far. you can pitch onsite food and laundry etc as Work Life Balance! onsite living kind of takes away that figleaf

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Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
i put a still picture of me speaking at a vendor thing and it easily tripled my views as well. public speaking! (even though I sound like a more monotone bert from sesame street)

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