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Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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BONGHITZ posted:

I want money, but i dont want to work. any thoughts?

vagrancy

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Sep 15, 2007

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Dr. Honked posted:

links pls what the gently caress even is a 10x dev

its something that people that never left youth sociopathy like to say they are

and workaholics

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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I generally like my workplace and the opportunity it's given me so I'm often hesitant about going elsewhere, especially since my previous job was a hell I should have exited about 3 years before I did

I have a friend that hops a ton abd has increased his salary a lot in the process I'm sure but his work life sounds banal as hell

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Sep 15, 2007

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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

i am so loving nervous about this interview today it's stupid

i was so stressed out about a position and finding a new job in general at one point that I had a severe headache throughout the entire day of interviewing

it went away in about 30 minutes at the end of the day when I found out they were going to hire me :unsmith:

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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tutorials and books aren't bad but they might not build your confidence in the best way, and its sometimes easy to get dunning-kruger-ed by going though exercises where lots of things are laid out for you

sometimes the easiest way to end up with a side project is to just start thinking of ideas passively, write them down, start working on what looks good, ditch it if its boring, etc

lots of peoples successful side projects come out of recognizing something interesting at work or in life that they want to pursue and the only real way to come across that moment is to explore

its yet another multi armed bandit lol

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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spankmeister posted:

So just like LA, but without the traffic

and also without any redeeming features

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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tons of companies have employee policies that are completely illegal but don't care because none of those employees know their rights so

they also tend to be set up to make it easy to remove troublemakers that do

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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somebody at my workplace worked for two places at the same time in a massive conflict of interest way and was fired from both places iirc

i mean you can work two places here you just have to do paperwork and each employer needs to know about it and time commitments and etc

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Sep 15, 2007

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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

stumbled upon this sketch again and thought of this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP0sqRMzkwo

my god its a technical interview

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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subjunctive is a VC now (in canada I think) that spends a lot of time countering peoples (honestly misinformed) opinions on how some VCs do business in the D&D tech thread

ive reached a strange point in looking over resumes now where I can pick up on the possibility of someone being mormon, which seems like a really weird pattern to notice :shrug:

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Sep 15, 2007

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Progressive JPEG posted:

if they mention being an eagle scout on their resume, bingo

its this, plus going to school or having lived in utah (BYU is kind of cheating), mentioning missionary work

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Sep 15, 2007

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LeftistMuslimObama posted:

this place is insane. the president of the company signs off on literally everything that affects budget. he had to personally sign off on all my tuition reimbursements too. there's 10,000 people here but they still act like it's a 100 person company.

lol sounds like your president has control issues, maybe they should take a page from one of the many platitude filled business books they undoubtedly read

that or they're trying to emulate other control freaks

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Sep 15, 2007

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Bloody posted:

lol if your interview to offer turnaround time is only four weeks, just lol

my workplace is known to sometimes have horrendous turnaround time on offers (like 1.5 years awful)

they try to accelerate it a lot in some areas but its just awful how extreme it gets

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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yeah a lot of that is fluctuations in funding as well

people will leave whatever job they have after that 1.5 year mark though so I guess they won't learn

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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Capitalism and ethics are disjoint

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Sep 15, 2007

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Rex-Goliath posted:

how the hell isnt your company atrophying away??

postdocs are used to this abuse

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Sep 15, 2007

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The Management posted:

I could have done that test question in half the time allotted and gotten it perfect if there was no clock running. ugh, so annoyed and now I look like an idiot

tbh this is all of these categories of questions

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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"You're all loving cheaters and fakers and charlatans and hacks, you don't deserve to be in my beloved computer touching corps" - the interview process

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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Uncle Enzo posted:

well yeah, my brother is bad at tests, that's what i loving said. my point is that tests- particularly when designed by smug know-it-alls that think they're infallible- don't reflect much of anything besides the ability to take tests.

i discussed this same issue with our math prof. his view was that tests can be: 1. a test to see how well you've learned and can apply the things you've been taught or 2. a thing that assesses your ability to improvise on the spot on what you've learned, meaning you're not tested on what you've been taught, but on stuff that's like it

he expressed disdain for the first view, saying that if all he did was test someone's recollection of what they'd been taught, that was useless. he much preferred the second, where for example a test question had you describe the area under a 4-d curve, using equations given in a system of notation unlike any that we'd seen. I pointed out that it was unfair to introduce novel notation on the test, seeing as he'd never actually covered it. he said what you did, that if all he tested was if you'd learned what he'd taught, what was the point of that?

all I'm getting at is that some people just don't test well, despite having as much knowledge and talent as anyone. my bro is great at figuring out what people want based on short conversations- besides, most people aren't sure of what they want anyways. it's hard to write questions that clearly indicate what the writer wants without giving the answer. it doesn't help when someone tries to make it into a dick-waving contest to boot.

that math prof got totally hosed up by grad school

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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I've become a lot better at performance evaluations over time but my god is that stuff a load of poo poo

All we have to lose is our chains brothers :anarchists: :ussr:

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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I remember in my old job when some business people would call their spreadsheets "applications"

at my current job some people just call them "databases" so I guess thats a step up

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Sep 15, 2007

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

long recruiting pipelines are suicide. hiring generically-qualified people for unknown end positions just means high turnover.

and google is the proof in that fuckin pudding. last numbers i saw put average tenure around 1 year

I think some people just want the line on their resume

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Sep 15, 2007

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Sapozhnik posted:

after being responsible for everything and designing everything and having a very stressful time of it in general being a small cog in a large machine is starting to sound real good lately

especially since i'm such a terrible programmer and keep building poo poo

being a small cog on an everything/nothing project in a large org can suck pretty hard too; imagine being responsible for everything and having layer upon layer of bureaucracy creeping scope on you constantly

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Sep 15, 2007

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poty posted:

im jealous that everybody is having google interviews except me. i half-assedly applied a couple of times (resume only, no letter) and i havent heard back. im probably worse at my job than all of you guys but they cant possibly tell from my resume which is 4 years at a fortune 500 doing cool stuff + masters in ee from a euro university which is clearly good enough seeing how many classmates got jobs there

did your classmates get jobs following graduation? it seems like they don't tend to pick up on resumes of working people unless there's an institution or workplace they find especially interesting on them

if you have classmates your still in contact with there, get a referral and they'll get to your right away

Progressive JPEG posted:

they've long suffered from having way more people than work to be done, so there's tons of teams whose sole purpose is to keep rewriting the same miniscule internal service over and over for eternity, along with the requisite horse trading to retain said projects so that the teams still have some semblance of a reason to exist

i made sure to leave before the stagnation set in too much

I've jokingly thought to myself sometimes that the point of googles hiring strategy is just to keep competitive talent off the market

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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well the big enterprise bucks are in "clouds" so everyone needs their own proprietary one especially if you're oracle

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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JawnV6 posted:

amazon folks currently pulling down $300k+

lol the absurdity of tech

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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yeah if you're some high income computer toucher, maxing out your 401k easy, might as well get in on that stock purchase plan in addition to your regular investment accounts

I mean those suckers cap out at only $18k/year

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Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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all you guys discussing buying stock and I'm just kind of happy I think I'm getting a bonus this year

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Sep 15, 2007

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qirex posted:

there's spaces in between those but a director who's a 1 telling all his 2s and 3s to work all weekend is stupid [but it works more than it should]

its because the 2s and 3s think of themselves as 1s for some reason

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Sep 15, 2007

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Dislike button posted:

i have a family friend who was in this situation, except the company was eventually sold then went public and he quit and built a $4 million dollar lake house

people getting the lowest tier of equity always think they're going to be this guy instead of getting espinosa-ed

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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its not so much bad at money as being in the same position lots of people are: not wealthy enough to be so diversified that it would take a huge catastrophe to unseat you from a comfortable life

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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and pension funds and other huge institutional investors propping prices up

socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor :capitalism:

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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pretty sure they're joking about :

  • the trend of valley companies just never going public
  • the classic valley IPO cycle of employees 1-50 making out like bandits and the late comers basically being stranded stock proppers if they're lucky, holding worthless paper if they're unlucky
  • things just fold and people have taken now worthless equity has 90% of their compensation

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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scammy bizbros, in the valley!? :monocle:

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Sep 15, 2007

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hobbesmaster posted:

wouldn't cbp asking for someone to balance a bst require them to know what a bst is in the first place?

if you cared about computer touching at all, the most important discipline in the world, you would know this, otherwise you're just a faker that doesn't deserve to be in this country

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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Bloody posted:

i dont remember how bubblesort even works

Swapping neighbors by order until things are sorted

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Sep 15, 2007

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raminasi posted:

grey thread consensus is that all questions about past work are useless because candidates can just lie

yes this seems to be it; this is something that is evidently only an epidemic in this industry and thus all candidates must prove their peerage with The Whiteboard Trials less they "can't code"

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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tbh "a .net dev in london" sounds like probably all business app development which is kind of a grinding hell of existence

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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cis autodrag posted:

is there like some intended super clever solution to string reversal or do they seriously just want to know if you can iterate over something backwards? i see people mention this as an interview question way too often and my irl answer would be like "what platform? how is the string represented internally and what APIs are available to examine it?" and so on. or does the question just also assume that you automatically go to c strings?

its pretty much just to be patronizing; you know, to eliminate the NOT REAL CODERS!

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Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

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the clever way is to also do it in place in an array and use an xor swap :smug:

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