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Megs mother died in the restaurant and Meg missed her last words cause she was getting high in the restroom. If Kevin was shot by a real bullet how did he go to the Hotel California drug coma?
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Meg was also mad that nobody cared about her grieving of her mother because the Departure stole her thunder.
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Sorry if this is tabloidy/too much, not putting in OP, but found it interesting: The Leftovers: Expect an 'explosive, satisfying' series ending quote:Carrie Coon is sounding very confident that you’re going to like the series finale of HBO’s The Leftovers.
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Klungar posted:Meg was also mad that nobody cared about her grieving of her mother because the Departure stole her thunder. Exactly. She's the most petty, lovely, character on the show. And thus is a show with a lot of hosed up people. That's something I like about this show compared to the Walking Dead. Both shows are full of psychos but only one acknowledges it.
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Hello friends, i just finished watching season 2 of this show because i saw the title in the forums here, and here is my assessment. I really liked Season 1, but i thought season 2 was gimmicky lost bullshit that was still enjoyable on that superficial level, but the ending was totally unsatisfying. Also lots of filler in that season. I'm gonna watch season 3 though! Anyway just my 2 cents in this post!
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Apr 2, 2017 11:35
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Raxivace posted:So I binge watched this entire series over the last few days. Season 1 was fantastic, though IMO there was a drop in quality for season 2 that was pretty disappointing. Everything felt less grounded in reality and Jarden/Miracle didn't feel quite as realized a location as Mapleton to me, despite the good premise and the Murphy family being strong additions to the cast. So yah thisis exactly how i feel too!!!
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Apr 2, 2017 11:39
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I still really don't get this assertion. Fair enough if you really just hated the mystical side, but imo season 1 has far too much (at least the first half) smug, self-satisfied, misery porn bullshit. And I still like that season. The emotion and character work feels much more real and effective to me in the second season, which I consider GOAT television. The difference in the title sequences basically says it all, for me. S1's is overbearing and tryhard, while s2's is more evocative.
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Apr 2, 2017 11:43
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Season 1 was much better. Almost nothing is explained and the whole thing is really left up to the viewer to interpret. Season 2 had its big mystery revealed at the end and kind of ruined the whole "Let the Mystery be." I still think both seasons are the best TV I have even seen.
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Apr 2, 2017 14:22
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UmOk posted:Season 1 was much better. Almost nothing is explained and the whole thing is really left up to the viewer to interpret. Season 2 had its big mystery revealed at the end and kind of ruined the whole "Let the Mystery be." I still think both seasons are the best TV I have even seen. The mystery they wanted you to "let be" is the sudden departure hth
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Apr 2, 2017 16:08
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Last Chance posted:The mystery they wanted you to "let be" is the sudden departure hth That's a pretty limited view of the show. Are you expecting every other unexplained thing to be wrapped up?
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UmOk posted:That's a pretty limited view of the show. Are you expecting every other unexplained thing to be wrapped up? What? I'm just talking about the intro where the woman is singing about people disappearing while visuals of disappeared people are splashed across the screen.
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Last Chance posted:What? I'm just talking about the intro where the woman is singing about people disappearing while visuals of disappeared people are splashed across the screen. Yeah. I don't think the intro song is referring specifically to the departure only. It's about all the unusual occurrences in the show. But like I said: the show is ambiguous enough to let veiwers create thier own viewpoints.
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I think the original thread posters have been departed. Season 1 is better and International Assassin was weak. I finally understand.
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I mean, let me put it this way: Season 1 is an exploration of universal and very human themes like loss, faith, and identity. It does this through a nightmare-like scenario lifted from folklore and lots of other narratives, but in a believable and non-sensational way. It doesn't try to pull any punches and looks to real world examples of how cults and religions work as to offer a fresh look that has something to say about what makes us human. Season 2 has a magical negro in a cabin at the edge of a magical town who guides the protagonist through purgatory, which is a literally a hotel. The magical negro guide to the afterlife is called Virgil.
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Season 2 was still good. I love that Jarden has its own version of Kevin. But instead of a hosed up cop, it's a hosed up fireman. Both trying to deal with feeling powerless while being the authority of their respective communities. Both have daughters that join the GR. I'm sure there is more similarities.
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Season 1 was mostly garbage and season 2 was great.
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MiddleOne posted:Season 1 was mostly garbage and season 2 was great. I mean, let me put it this way: Season 1 is an exploration of universal and very human themes like loss, faith, and identity. It does this through a nightmare-like scenario lifted from folklore and lots of other narratives, but in a believable and non-sensational way. It doesn't try to pull any punches and looks to real world examples of how cults and religions work as to offer a fresh look that has something to say about what makes us human. Season 2 has a magical negro in a cabin at the edge of a magical town who guides the protagonist through purgatory, which is a literally a hotel. The magical negro guide to the afterlife is called Virgil.
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Season 1 was mostly garbage and season 2 was great. I'm not liking this sequel to Groundhog Day.
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oliwan posted:I mean, let me put it this way: You're season 2 critisism only works if you think there is magic happening and not just delusions of crazy people. Doesn't one of the characters actually address the magical negros issue? It seems like imaginary Pattie said something about it but I could be wrong.
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I like them both. To me, Season 1 is about the more immediate effects of dealing with a traumatic event, one that shakes your foundation level beliefs and shatters any expectations you may have had for the future. Season 2 is the longer term, accepting that this traumatic event really did happen and that it might have just happened for no reason at all, but learning to live with that not-knowing. There's a reason why Kevin seems happy in his reply to John in the ER: "I don't understand what's happening." "Me neither." He hasn't come back from 'the other side' with some profound knowledge of how it all works behind the scenes, it's the exact opposite! He's accepted that admitting we don't know is sometimes the best outcome for the big questions, because it frees us to then participate in the life that we do know we're experiencing in the here and now. E: UmOk posted:Doesn't one of the characters actually address the magical negros issue? It seems like imaginary Pattie said something about it but I could be wrong. Yeah, it is Patti, when Kevin is yelling at her in the woods. "What would you have done if I'd told you the solution to all your problems was a magical black man at the edge of town? That's borderline racist is what that is!" Pepe Silvia Browne fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Apr 2, 2017 |
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yes, now if they couldve done that in season 2 without the Lost level superficial gimmicky magic bullshit, it wouldve been great. as it is, i cant take it seriously. Like I said, I still liked season 2, but it ultimately lacks the depth and intelligence of season 1, in favour of ~~magic & mystery~~. Season 1 does get heavy handed, but I enjoyed and respected the nihilism it embraces and i can live with the dark tone. edit: Pepe Silvia Browne posted:Yeah, it is Patti, when Kevin is yelling at her in the woods. "What would you have done if I'd told you the solution to all your problems was a magical black man at the edge of town? That's borderline racist is what that is!" yeah, they allude to their poor writing as if that exonerates it. it's almost as cringe-worthy as calling Virgil Virgil.
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What about the many season 2 episodes with little magic and mystery, especially Lens? Were they less deep or intelligent? Or the mysterious stuff in s1, like the magic sewer grate of fire and the Patti dream sequence (or whatever it was it's been a while)? I'm fine with you disliking s2 even though I'll argue against it but you're posting like anyone who feels the other way is an idiot who is missing the obvious bad stuff. And the s2 title sequence is very obviously about the departure hence the images the song is juxtaposed with.
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So is Twin Peaks bad now because of Bob and the black lodge?
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Escobarbarian posted:
Correct. It is about the departure. Is it only allowed to be about one specific thing? I would argue the intro is also saying something about Lost.
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I thought that the Season 2 criticism posts were jokes until I hit page 4 and found out you morons actually believe it LOST really messed a lot of people up
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Professor Shark posted:I thought that the Season 2 criticism posts were jokes until I hit page 4 and found out you morons actually believe it What?
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Season 1 had plenty of supernatural events, Lost references/parallels, and winky meta humor. I don't see how someone could prefer it over the second season on that basis.
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I'm rewatching season one right now. It's really fun to rewatch when you don't have to wait week-by-week and you already know where the characters end up. The first Matt-focused episode: ep 3, "Two Boats and a Helicopter" is loving crazy. I forget that Matt smashes his assailant's face into the fuckin ground. Lmao
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Last Chance posted:I'm rewatching season one right now. It's really fun to rewatch when you don't have to wait week-by-week and you already know where the characters end up. The first Matt-focused episode: ep 3, "Two Boats and a Helicopter" is loving crazy. I forget that Matt smashes his assailant's face into the fuckin ground. Lmao I really like how twisted the roles of these characters are. Cop that hides bodies, firefighter that starts fire, Priest that certainly doesn't turn the other cheek.
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UmOk posted:
The reading room of the State Library of Victoria. Might have seen it in another show or movie?
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drunkill posted:The reading room of the State Library of Victoria. Might have seen it in another show or movie? Yeah. Exactly what I was thinking. 
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UmOk posted:I really like how twisted the roles of these characters are. Cop that hides bodies, firefighter that starts fire, Priest that certainly doesn't turn the other cheek. Kinda funny after Lindelof's oft-criticized work on Prometheus with the map maker who gets lost, biologist who gets killed provoking the first life they find, pilot who (intentionally) crashes the ship, scientists who base everything on faith, and so on.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Kinda funny after Lindelof's oft-criticized work on Prometheus with the map maker who gets lost, biologist who gets killed provoking the first life they find, pilot who (intentionally) crashes the ship, scientists who base everything on faith, and so on.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Season 1 had plenty of supernatural events, Lost references/parallels, and winky meta humor. I don't see how someone could prefer it over the second season on that basis. 100% this tho
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Add me to the "I think season one is better than season two" camp. I'm not sure if it matters but I never watched Lost. *ducks*
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I can't believe it took me this long to watch this show, especially since I loved LOST. The 2nd season was, in my opinion, the best season of television I've ever seen.
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Guy A. Person posted:Kevin-wife did lose her unborn child. I disagree. I really like Meg because she's broken just like everyone else, except she's expressed it as trolling everyone and being a gigantic rear end in a top hat instead of trying to drown yourself in a lake or attacking anyone religious and burning down their house. edit: also Meg is arguably sadder than anyone else because her entire goal is for people to not forget about something that didn't even have an impact on her. She's survivor's guilt taken out to infinity. She's additionally an interesting insight into how people end up radicalizing themselves when they believe they're unquestionable. Also I liked both seasons. I liked all of Season 1 and thought the ending was okay not great. I thought most of Season 2 was meh until International Assassin and I loved that the ending was giant middle finger to everyone in Jarden who thought they were special. The GR are a depressed teenager wailing that "it's not okay, no one is special" and actually being right. axeil fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Apr 6, 2017 |
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UmOk posted:Meg is not really a believer. She's just being vindictive and using the GR to get her vengeance or whatever. Laurie lost her unborn child.
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UmOk posted:And the funny thing about the GR is that none of them had family members lost in the departure. Pattie, Meg, Evy and Laurie. They are mad because they aren't special. I might be forgetting the conversation with 'ghost Patti' that Kevin had in the well during his afterlife trip, but I thought she said she won big in Jeopardy, was planning to leave her husband for being a lovely abuser with her newfound money, but then he was one of the people that vanished, so it made it a moot point?
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