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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
We don't know if they filmed the whole season in Australia, do we? We just know some of it has been filmed there.

PUMPED AS HELL FO DIS

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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Ahh ok then. I guess I was hoping the spiritual stuff wouldn't be the entire focus, but this doesn't necessarily mean it will be.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I agree. Glad you dig the show, btw! Season 2 is such a masterpiece unffffff

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I rewatched both seasons and s1 definitely improves a lot but is still far, far below s2.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
HOLY poo poo THAT JUST MADE THE FREAK THE gently caress OUT

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
You monsters are ruining this thread with your wrong opinions :(

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I still really don't get this assertion. Fair enough if you really just hated the mystical side, but imo season 1 has far too much (at least the first half) smug, self-satisfied, misery porn bullshit. And I still like that season. The emotion and character work feels much more real and effective to me in the second season, which I consider GOAT television.

The difference in the title sequences basically says it all, for me. S1's is overbearing and tryhard, while s2's is more evocative.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
What about the many season 2 episodes with little magic and mystery, especially Lens? Were they less deep or intelligent? Or the mysterious stuff in s1, like the magic sewer grate of fire and the Patti dream sequence (or whatever it was it's been a while)?

I'm fine with you disliking s2 even though I'll argue against it but you're posting like anyone who feels the other way is an idiot who is missing the obvious bad stuff.

And the s2 title sequence is very obviously about the departure hence the images the song is juxtaposed with.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Lord Krangdar posted:

Season 1 had plenty of supernatural events, Lost references/parallels, and winky meta humor. I don't see how someone could prefer it over the second season on that basis.

100% this tho

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Ausmund posted:

Again, it's implied but never confirmed. This is a Damon Lindelof show. We don't know the full story.

....LOST hosed up a lot of people

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
At the very least s2 doesn't have anything as crap as the stolen baby jesus episode

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

oliwan posted:

Season 2 is much more like GoT, or Lost. Enjoyable for what they are, but ultimately superficial entertainment.

Well at least now I know to ignore you from now on :v:

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
If only I had a literature degree so I could realise how the Lost finale is Actually Bad :(

(I don't really like a lot of the final season but absolutely think the finale knocks it out of the park)

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
It doesn't have to be a subtextual masterpiece to be good. Not everything can be Mad Men. It provided good closure for characters I had grown to love. That's it.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Theroux's cock isn't that big and I have a PhD in dick size so

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Rewatched the entirety of season 2 on a plane ride and drat it's so good and International Assassin in particular is way better/more emotionally resonant than I remembered

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Every pre-release review for this season (critics got 7/8 eps) has been so absurdly positive and I could not be more excited right now

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I'm in LA right now and HBO seem to have a monopoly on the billboards here right now. Seen loads of ads for Leftovers as well as Veep and Silicon Valley.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Incredible episode. Can't think of much to say, but I had the same thought as the previous poster that Erika might have taken Lily and ran off, replacing her dead daughter.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
They do pretty much state that point outright in the episode.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I mean, I think most people got into it with season 2, after it was confirmed they fixed tons of the problems with s1. Certainly most I know who watch it. I don't think 1 is garbage but preferring it to 2 is absolutely straight-up insane.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
The GR in s1 is absolutely one of the main lovely things about that season. Regardless of the thematic sense they might make, minutes and minutes of people showing notebooks to each other is just objectively uninteresting television and something that clearly would work way better in the original book.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
yep that's right you're just so much smarter than us and we can't enjoy anything that isn't exactly what we expect from television

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Lick! The! Whisk! posted:

THE LEFTOVERS IS THE GREATEST SHOW ON TELEVISION

read in i think the NYTimes review that Nora's DSD boss says "she's goin'" to his co-worker once he gets off the phone with her about her going to St. Louis. continuity error or some weird foreshadowing?

Escobarbarian fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Apr 24, 2017

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

oliwan posted:

Like how is the trampoline scene supposed to add anything to the story? Except for hurrr durrr look how wacky we (the writers/directors) are?

You should be able to figure it out yourself with all these qualifications. It couldn't be any easier to understand, really. Of course you're just a bad troll so

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
One possibility for passages from the book making their way to Aus is that Michael has been uploading parts online behind Matt's back.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Yeah I noticed the guy's name on both eps and he seriously crushed it

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Makes sense if that's your only 2 hours.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Comatose Mary was in the hotel as well so I think it's still meant to be more of a general in-between place.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
7 is a thing in the Bible esp book of Revelations

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
.....I think it was just a joke, you guys.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Leftovers has always been a little egregious with the cuts to older scenes but this was definitely the worst.

What an episode, though! drat! Although Kevin's overall arc over the course of the series does seem a little wobbly.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
That finale was wonderful. I could niggle about not really being into revealing whether or not Laurie died and the lack of Jill and Tom this season and other such minor issues but honestly I'm just so impressed with how they pulled it off.

People complaining that this finale was almost all Kevin and Nora should note they've basically been closing off other arcs in the last few episodes anyways. This entire last half of the season has been like, finale after finale.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
i'm getting the sense oliwan just doesn't dig the supernatural in his tellyvision

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
When Nora meets the scientist he asks her why she would possibly want to go back after managing to get there. Make of that what you will.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
oliwan, what are some of your other favourite TV shows?

(I know I shouldn't be encouraging him but it's better than hearing you all argue why something obviously deliberately ambiguous actually isn't because insert pedantic reason here)

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
They're all awesome shows but honestly I prefer Leftovers to all but MM.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Rupert deserves a cushy retirement imo

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
It's pretty fun that the two creators both so clearly believe opposite things about the ending. For me personally it makes its ambiguous nature even more effective and satisfying.

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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
The movie was good but I wouldn't mind a miniseries that gives the story more time like it deserves. Of course I do think Watchmen shouldn't really be hosed with ever as it's basically objectively impossible to top the original but I'll watch whatever Lindelof gets up to.

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