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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Gio posted:

Yeah I don't agree with this at all. Work gives people purpose, something to take pride in, solidarity with other workers, a sense of community. It empowers them, to an extent, however minimal.

This is my main gripe with the basic wage. It devalues work. I mean, modern work is without a doubt exploitive, dehumanizing, and alienating, but a perpetual class of basic wagers floating through society without a purpose other than consumption sounds pretty dystopian to me. And I don't buy the whole "time to make art" poo poo. People will sit on their fat asses and do nothing.

I like how you're so detached from poor people and how much they suffer just to make it from day to day that giving them 15$ an hour automatically means that they'll be lazy instead of oh, say, being able to afford the homes they're in, being able to feed their children, being able to afford the medicine or insurance they're being hosed by and not having to work three shifts a day just to make sure they can survive.

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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
By the way, if you guys want to watch an amazing documentary about how much of a disasterous Plague Centrism and Feaux-Liberalism is, I highly, HIGHLY reccomend you watch Adam Curtis's 'Hypernormalization'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fny99f8amM

it's super depressing and frightening.

Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Dec 13, 2016

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

General Dog posted:

There's a folly in expecting leftism to take hold in the US that's akin to those who think that democracy would take root in the Middle East if they just had the chance. It's not a lack education or opportunity- the people understand leftism, and largely they reject it. It's not our cup of tea.

Wait what the gently caress are you saying here? that the middle easterners dont want democracy? Please, inform me oh General, why the middle eastern mind is too savage for democracy and why all those people who suffered and died over there in the last five years to change their regimes and have a shot at democracy have no desire for it. I cant wait to hear you analysis.

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