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Main Paineframe posted:Centrism is the natural and intended outcome of representative democracy. The "center", at least in theory is a compromise position between various political factions with broad appeal and no dealbreakers, intended to be acceptable to a significant majority of the electorate. In practice, it doesn't really work out that way, but that's due to largely to significant social breakdowns and flaws in our systems of government. Remember this - the center is not, strictly speaking, an ideology of its own. Rather, it's the expected result of the compromises inherent in democracy. That's the case even in parliamentary democracies, and the US's ancient system has always been particularly problematic in that regard. I agree, unfortunately though a huge chunk of left-liberals still actively consider themselves centrists/Third Way
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Famethrowa posted:I suppose it's a meaningless quibble when they have no power in the US. Dems gave up trying to repeal Taft-Hartley after they failed under the Carter admin and huge growth in IT and among Knowledge Workers convinced the leaders that unions were irrelevant artifacts of the Old Economy. Fighting right-to-work at the state level was left to crippled state level parties who national liberals had left to die because with so much tech growth in San Fran flyover country is irrelevant now
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TomViolence posted:Most other countries actually have or had an organised left due to things like labour movements, which were rather active proponents of the right to work and considered employment empowering by definition since it allowed them to collectively organise. The left-liberal tendency in america doesn't share the same lineage, the same aims or the same values and it shows. Well, to be fair the left isn't doing so hot in other countries either. Canada and Australia never had socialist parties with any meaningful political power, Britain's got eviscerated and taken over by Third Way centrists, Germany's was very moderate from the start of the postwar, wasn't in power for very long, and got taken over by Third Way centrists anyways, and France's is about to get annihilated at the polls and either French Ted Cruz or a literal neo-nazi is going to win. Even in Scandanavia the parties there moved to the center a lot and I believe adopted a lot of racist/anti-immigrant stances to forestall loss of support among the native working class though I'm not totally up on Scandinavian politics
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