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No it won't. I would have thought Trump's election would have shattered an illusions of competence people still had for the Democratic party. They'll just continue to ignore it and otherwise throw roadblocks in the way. Sort of like after legal marijuana passed in MA, the first thing the Democratically-controlled state house did was do everything within their power to delay implementation and up the "legal age limit" for smoking as high as possible.
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The ballot measure explicitly said "21" so the very first thing they did was amend it to be 25. They also delayed making selling legal to 2018, so for now, it's legal to smoke and possess marijuana in Massachusetts, but not to purchase it. Edit 2: Never mind, that article was poorly written. They haven't increased the tax, they're only threatening to, and the 12.5% figure is combining sales tax and excise tax. Xenoveritas has issued a correction as of 23:44 on Dec 17, 2016 |
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Squalid posted:I admit I'm always puzzled just how severe opposition to legalization has been in the legislature. I mean if this policy is so popular grass-roots campaigns are able to build themselves up and get people voting yes you'd think there would be some incentive for our representatives to put up their own initiatives to a vote but somehow that just isn't happening. How can there be such a disconnect between what people want and their elected government is willing to do? There's hardly even any organized opposition to speak of, almost no real money is being put up against legalization What are you talking about, the most money in Massachusetts was spent on advertising for ... well, charter schools, actually (at $26.8 million). Legal marijuana only had $4.9 million spent on it while the oppose side spent a whopping ... $158,000. (Also from that article, Question 1 had a total of $50 spent against it and $1.1 million for. Final results for that question? 61% against, 39% for. Probably because Question 1 was "gently caress the city of Revere, I wanna build a casino.")
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:ultimately Trump is a money guy, and that green talks. I don't think that his appointing cranky racist old dude to AG is going to be the bullet that kills an extremely well-established and entrenched multi-million dollar business You're putting a lot of faith in Trump not being sold on this as a way to punish states that didn't vote for him and are, arguably, ignoring his authority as President of the United States. That being said, the GOP going all-in on marijuana legalization could be a brilliant strategic move to completely torpedo the DNC's chances. The libertarian wing of the GOP would be all over it, and as support for it is generally higher, it's possible they could get other wings on board. Of course, this requires the DNC to be a credible threat. And the DNC isn't going to be a credible threat - not in 2018, probably not in 2020, and therefore realistically not until 2024 at the earliest. And with another decade of gerrymandering, probably not even then, either.
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And if anyone thought Democrats would fight them on this, the MA state senate just pushed back the date of legalization in MA to mid-2018. It was supposed to start next month.
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Dec 28, 2016 18:42
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I have no idea what it actually is, because there used to be two phases - one where medical marijuana was expanded to be allowed to be sold for recreational use, and a follow-up where recreational stores would be allowed to open. The January 2018 date was the original time when the second was supposed to happen. If pushed to summer 2018, that's the six month delay. And I'm unclear if the first phase is even happening because the media reporting on this mostly hates legal weed too. Edit: It looks like the original timeline was medical dispensaries could start selling as soon as February 2017, but weren't required to be allowed until January 2018, and then licensing for recreational stores would start in January 2018. The delay pushes the first to April 2018 and the second until July 2018. Xenoveritas has issued a correction as of 21:15 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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And hey, look, who could have ever guessed it? Sessions is starting to crack down on states that legalized weed.
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So far? Nothing, beyond vague hints that they intend to step up enforcement in states where it's legal. What will they actually do? Who knows. It's the Trump administration.
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MShadowy posted:Yeah; there's a couple guys in my neighborhood who seem convinced Trump won't even though the WH just they would. "Trumps a money man, he won't do that!" Not just that but Sessions already reversed the DOJ's stance on private prisons. Now more private prisons are a good thing, and what do you need to fill private prisons? More prisoners.
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ScrubLeague posted:I mean that's basically the only thing Trump cares about Trump desperately wants people to like him, but by the same token, he wants to punish those who don't. If you don't fall in line behind Trump, then as far as he cares, you're the enemy. The states that legalized weed all voted against Trump. The idea that he won't let Sessions punish them for that is hilarious: of course he will. Likewise there's no way Sessions is going to be removed. The GOP fought hard to get him there and get their voter ID laws upheld, there's no way they're giving up on that.
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hobbesmaster posted:We'll find out soon if "lol nothing matters" applies to aiding an enemy government as a sitting senator. They're already spinning it as "who cares, he talked with a diplomat, senators should talk to diplomats." Fullhouse posted:it's really funny when liberals think the legal weed issue is something that only single-issue college kids care about and then avert their eyes as millions of mostly-minority citizens are disenfranchised based on the continued illegality of Yeah, the GOP has two choices here: stand up against a probable attack on the US by a foreign power, or help disenfranchise even more black people. It's not a hard choice for them.
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Michael Corleone posted:e; IS THE PICTURE REAL THOUGH? Maybe it was a gift from Trump and is signed and Kraft made him put it in his locker? Who even knows what is going on anymore, in this thread about weed. It's real, both Brady and Belichick are Trump supporters.
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