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In the recent years, I've noticed that the right-wing has a clearly dominant position when it comes to the use of the internet to sway opinions. Right-wing people are able to form effective brigades to do things like manipulate online polls, negatively review media that disagrees with their views, game systems like Reddit and Google to get right-wing opinions front-page coverage, and more. They also seem to be better at using computers in general, what with the prevalence of bots and DDOSing as tactics used by internet right-wingers. Yet, I haven't noticed any sort of counter-response from the left; nothing is done when, say, alt-right trolls review-bomb a video because it implies that black people are human and not some variety of orc. It's even more perplexing considering that, at least from an educational standpoint, most people trained to do online tech work are liberal. So why does an effective minority in people trained to use computers have such power over social media? SunAndSpring fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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Would I be right in saying that standard corporate apathy to anything that doesn't make them short-term profits is another factor in this? Google, Twitter, and Facebook are noted for being reluctant to do anything about making sure that fascists get removed from their site unless they have considerable monetary pressure to do so. poo poo, Google banning anyone on YouTube associated with the alt-right alone would be a good way to prevent these ideals from spreading. Yet, I've reported dozens of neo-Nazi channels and I don't think a single one has been removed despite them being pretty obviously National Socialists. Hell, one even had swastikas all over his drat background and he's still kicking, last I checked.
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After reading this thread, I'd say that I've been convinced that far-right people aren't as big of a problem as they seemed to be when I made this, or at least the alt-right. I still have a big problem with how poo poo like Reddit and Twitter and Google are awful at preventing right-wingers from gaming their systems, however. It seems like they cannot deal with people spamming fake and/or right-wing biased news to the top of the site, and are generally unwilling to deal with terrible fucks like Milo Yabadabbadoopolis unless they piss off a sufficiently famous or rich person. Not to mention how 4chan is able to organize flash mobs to harass people and the site owner does nothing to stop it. My thoughts now are what exactly can be done about this stuff. How do you effectively pressure these omnipresent sites? No way you can loving boycott Google or Twitter or whatever now, there's way too many users, so hitting them in the wallet isn't an option. And how exactly do you get somebody who runs a site like 4chan to realize how ruinous it is to let their users do whatever idiot thing pops into their head?
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Eimi posted:Also with 4chan my understanding is that the owner has some realization of how horrible the monster they created is, like to my understanding they at least tried to ban gamergate poo poo. Maybe they are just like the Reddit owner and just support "all speech is free speech?" moot did ban that poo poo but mainly because it became a huge pain in the rear end to deal with because people in the GG threads there would report literally everything due to immense paranoia that SJW shills were infiltrating their threads to false flag and ruin the movement. So, much like the Reddit person, he generally thought all speech is free speech. The owner now is Hiroyuki Nishimura, former owner of 2channel. Asides from the fact that Hiroyuki so far has displayed a loose grasp of the English language, Hiroyuki seems to hold the opinion that whatever happens on his site is not really his problem. This is a pretty good article about him, with a few great parts, such as him writing about how 2channel will never die, which it nearly did after it was revealed that he was selling user information. https://www.wired.com/2008/05/mf-hiroyuki/?currentPage=all quote:His online fans may adore him, but 2channel is becoming increasingly controversial. There have been stalking incidents and suicide pacts supposedly planned through the site. (Nico Nico Douga is more supervised: Users must log in, there's a six-page agreement, and Dwango responds to takedown notices.) Nishimura's nonchalant response to complaints and libel suits probably doesn't help. "I used to show up in court," he says. "Then one day I overslept, and nothing happened. So I stopped going." SunAndSpring fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Ok this thread's terrible and I'm ending it
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