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Young Freud posted:I really think all the cuts are good and have something worthwhile. I'm wholly of the opinion that the theatrical cut's exposition track added something to the whole film noir ambiance. I don't even buy the excuse that Harrison Ford sounded bored while doing them, the voiceover matched the whole "cold fish" wandering apathy of Deckard. There's some great lines in that voiceover that it's a shame they're lost like tears in rain.
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The Final Cut is absolutely the best version of the movie but Blade Runner was my favorite movie of all time even before I saw the Director's Cut in the 90s and the Final Cut in the 00s. But if one doesn't plan on re-watching flicks often I'd watch the Final Cut. If you get a release of the Final Cut with all the extras included, one thing that's interesting is that you can watch all the weird deleted scenes in one chronological block. So it's like this bizarre 40 minute first draft of the movie with a bunch of locations and things you don't get in any released version of it. The multi-hour making of documentary is pretty nuts too. I don't think the Final Cut makes it hard to argue Deckard isn't a replicant, rather it makes it hard to argue what he is one way or the other which I think is more effective. I saw as screening of one of my favorite cheesy movies, Trancers, tonight, and they played the Blade Runner 2049 trailer before it which was great to see on the big screen. It's very very very pretty.
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Yeah, the multi-hours documentary is amazing.
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This movie looks dumb, and the trailer looks to be some kinda of Harrison ford reveal to get you happy for a sequel to a movie that was ok.
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Tenzarin posted:This movie looks dumb, and the trailer looks to be some kinda of Harrison ford reveal to get you happy for a sequel to a movie that was ok. I mean if you think Blade Runner is just "ok" you're probably not really in the target audience
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Blade Runner is one of my top 3 favorite sci-fi movies ever and at least right now I am aggressively opposed to this films existence. Maybe I will warm up to it in time, that is happening with Ghost in the Shell.
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What about the new Ghost makes you want to see it? It's.....bland.
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I said come in! posted:Blade Runner is one of my top 3 favorite sci-fi movies ever and at least right now I am aggressively opposed to this films existence. Maybe I will warm up to it in time, that is happening with Ghost in the Shell. Villenueve though. He hasn't made a bad movie yet, or even a bland forgettable one.
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I said come in! posted:Blade Runner is one of my top 3 favorite sci-fi movies ever and at least right now I am aggressively opposed to this films existence. Maybe I will warm up to it in time, that is happening with Ghost in the Shell. Why are you opposed to this?
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Dec 22, 2016 16:29
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Shageletic posted:What about the new Ghost makes you want to see it? It's.....bland. Nostalgia, not gonna lie. Lots of scenes from the animated film are in this movie.
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Dec 22, 2016 16:30
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I'm more surprised about someone warming up to Ghost in the Shell. 
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Yea, even if I had no idea about the original film, I'd be hyped just for more Villenueve +Deakins.
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I said come in! posted:Nostalgia, not gonna lie. Lots of scenes from the animated film are in this movie. But they've made the scenes they've copied so much more boring. That fight in the ankle deep water just seemed so blase compared to the three shot BOOM of the last kick in the anime. I'm hoping for the best, but they even seemed to have stuck in a lovely "protaganist trying to learn the truth about themselves" arc in there. At least the fan edit of the trailer put the original music in there, made it marginally better. I'm pretty much the opposite for how I feel for Ghost v. 2049. It'll be fun to see if my expectations end up getting upended.
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I said come in! posted:Blade Runner is one of my top 3 favorite sci-fi movies ever and at least right now I am aggressively opposed to this films existence. Maybe I will warm up to it in time, that is happening with Ghost in the Shell. I think there's honestly more reason to think/hope that this movie will be good than GITS. Granted I'm not into anime and didn't feel like my childhood was being ruined by turning GITS into a movie like a lot of people did, but the pedigree of filmmakers involved with 2049 is really excellent, whereas GITS looks like it's really trying to faithfully translate some of the visual ideas from the anime, but may or may not get anything else right. If anything, it's not that it looks like this movie will be bad, but rather that it has to follow (and therefore be compared directly against) one of the most influential sci-fi films of all time.
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I'm kinda disappointed by the costuming so far... c'mon, t-shirts? I know it's been 30 years and fashion changes, but one of the best thing about the original was all the bizarre fashion. Seriously, Deckard was like a goddamned Dr. Who:  
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Sorry, everything is boring now, movies are boring, we can't scare our dumb idiot viewers with something they aren't expecting. edit: it'll probably be fine in the movie but what was the last film we got with really wacky fashion? I miss that. Magic Hate Ball fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Dec 22, 2016 19:07
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Then again, there's never been a good EW photo spread Genisys.img for example
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EW photos suck horribly even in the teaser Gosling is wearing a coat that fits right in.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Sorry, everything is boring now, movies are boring, we can't scare our dumb idiot viewers with something they aren't expecting. The Hunger Games
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Blade Runner is my all-time favorite film, and there's really no way that this movie can retroactively gently caress up how I feel about it/what it means to me, so I'm cautiously optimistic on account of Villeneuve + Deakins and also Gosling's involvement. I'm disappointed that Jared Leto is in it, though. Can't stand that dude. OregonDonor fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Dec 23, 2016 |
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Xaris posted:The other cuts are also good too though the unicorn poo poo was kinda lame imo. Ah, but the symbolism is so good!
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Basebf555 posted:Villenueve though. He hasn't made a bad movie yet, or even a bland forgettable one. I saw Arrival opening weekend and really enjoyed that film.
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I'm usually not fond of these films as they tend to by bloated fan service with zero intention to challenge but if they manage to give somethin different to Blade Runner but with a small sense of continuity I'm in.I said come in! posted:I saw Arrival opening weekend and really enjoyed that film. I really liked it but I it felt like one of those old 90's outher limits episode stretched over 90 minutes.It says a lot about Villenueve that he was capable of getting a solid 7-8 out of such flimsy premise. hump day bitches! fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Dec 23, 2016 |
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Dec 23, 2016 02:06
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Will we get the autistic,brooding Gosling from Drive or the chatty charming Gosling from all the date movies he's done?
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I look forward to this sequel of white-people-in-not-Japan
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Pycckuu posted:Will we get the autistic,brooding Gosling from Drive or the chatty charming Gosling from all the date movies he's done? The former.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Sorry, everything is boring now, movies are boring, we can't scare our dumb idiot viewers with something they aren't expecting. I liked Jupiter Rising
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Pycckuu posted:Will we get the autistic,brooding Gosling from Drive  Reeeeal human beeeeean...
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I'm hoping for relentless fuckup manchild gosling from The Place Beyond the Pines personally.
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DeimosRising posted:I'm hoping for relentless fuckup manchild gosling from The Place Beyond the Pines personally. I'm hoping for "jock older brother" Gosling from the Are You Afraid of the Dark? episode, "The Tale of Station 109.1" (I'm sure he'll do fine. After Arrival, I trust the poo poo out of this director.)
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Literally March from Nice Guys
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I feel like the Gosling from Lars and the Real Girl would be the correct choice for a movie about fake humans.
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Xealot posted:I'm hoping for "jock older brother" Gosling from the Are You Afraid of the Dark? episode, "The Tale of Station 109.1" loving fantastic episode though, probably a top 5. Xaris fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Dec 25, 2016 |
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Relatedly, I remember loving the Blade Runner PC game when I was younger but I haven't been able to source all of the poems Clovis quotes. I know he uses Blake's 'The Poison Tree' and 'To Tirzah' but I can't find the poem with the line like 'And I will stalk that shadowed valley with silent melancholy'. Does any one know that poem?
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Ironically you're misremembering William Blake's "Memory, hither come":Bill B posted:
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OregonDonor posted:I'm disappointed that Jared Leto is in it, though. Can't stand that dude.
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Shageletic posted:
After the events of the last 10 years Hollywood should really retire the trope of a "world-shattering" secret.
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caligulamprey posted:I loved the score to Sicario (I haven't seen Arrival yet but goddamn it, It'll probably be what I do on Christmas), but maaaaaaaaan I figured it might not be Vangelis so I had my fingers crossed Cliff Martinez instead of Johannsson. I'm the exact opposite. Martinez does nothing for me. I'm so glad we're getting Johannsson as I prefer him much more and I think his style fits Blade runner better anyway.
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Neo Rasa posted:I don't think the Final Cut makes it hard to argue Deckard isn't a replicant, rather it makes it hard to argue what he is one way or the other which I think is more effective. I mean, I can't think of anything that refutes the whole unicorn dream/unicorn origami thing that was added.
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blackguy32 posted:I mean, I can't think of anything that refutes the whole unicorn dream/unicorn origami thing that was added. For me, it's the very fact that it was added. It was basically Ridley Scott going "I wrote Deckard as a replicant, in my vision he is a replicant, nobody should ever mistake him for anything but a replicant" and taking his ball and running home. I think the movie is better when the seed of doubt is planted in the viewer's mind as to whether he's a replicant or not, but with no direct evidence either way. I think the film reads better if Deckard is human though. A man is sent after superior beings to be repeatedly broken and battered by them, his life put on the line in servitude for a bureau that doesn't care about him. Yeah, the replicants have a limited lifespan but at least they've "seen things you people wouldn't believe", and human beings are just as much worker drones as the replicants are in the society of Blade Runner. Plus, why would a replicant with the limitations and emotional responses of a regular human be sent after emotionless killing machines? Why wouldn't they make a Deckard who was as fast and strong as Roy Batty? Deckard doesn't even "beat" Roy in the end, Roy Batty just lays down and dies on his own terms because he's too strong, too intelligent and too quick for Deckard.
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