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Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
will admiral adama make a return

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Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Bugblatter posted:

An Umberto Eco based videogame exists.

Huh.

Umberto Ecco the Dolphin

Kilmers Elbow
Jun 15, 2012

I see McKenzie Davis ( :3: ) is in it but I can't help wonder if she's only there as a Pris callback.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I cannot wait for them to ruin my favorite movie of all time with a definitive resolution to Deckard being a replicant and slovenly callbacks to the original.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

How does a sequel invalidate whatever feelings you have for the original, though

OregonDonor
Mar 12, 2010

Ruflux posted:

How does a sequel invalidate whatever feelings you have for the original, though

This exactly. You don't have to accept anything about the sequel if you don't want to. I still think 2049 is on the short list of Least Necessary Sequels Ever but if it has some things going for it then cool, if not then oh well, BR is still the unequivocal masterpiece that it is to me.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Ruflux posted:

How does a sequel invalidate whatever feelings you have for the original, though

When I say "ruin" I don't mean that it will literally change my feelings on the original Blade Runner, but by existing and providing a definitive answer to Deckard's fate will now inhabit my consciousness in an irritating way that, upon rewatching Blade Runner, I'll have to think "but yeah and then they made that sequel." It's just a supremely unnecessary movie, in the same fashion The Whole 10 Yards or 22 Jump Street or whatever were supremely unnecessary. But not entirely unexpected as we're now in the age of Tortuous 80s Reference: The Feature Film.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Just get black out drunk so you don't remember it. Then you can say you watched it, while not remembering how it taints your precious.

ThePlague-Daemon
Apr 16, 2008

~Neck Angels~
Putting Villeneuve in charge of a cool looking cyberpunk movie is entirely necessary, in my opinion.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


There's a lot of talent surrounding this production on paper, and if they truly manage to do something new and inventive with the subject material, then I'll be pleasantly surprised. Just like how everybody remembers the Total Recall reboot. Or Robocop. Or that last Terminator movie.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

exquisite tea posted:

I cannot wait for them to ruin my favorite movie of all time with a definitive resolution to Deckard being a replicant and slovenly callbacks to the original.

I get you on the second part, but surely if you believe the first part, you never watch sequels at all, right? Sequels inherently resolve mysteries from the first one, even if its nothing more than "What Did They Do After The First Movie?"

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
I'm still convinced Ford is going to die like ten minutes into the movie and/or otherwise be out of action for all of it. Not knowing whether or not he was human will play a part in setting the plot into motion but it will lead to other stuff happening instead of his origin being resolved.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Neo Rasa posted:

I'm still convinced Ford is going to die like ten minutes into the movie and/or otherwise be out of action for all of it. Not knowing whether or not he was human will play a part in setting the plot into motion but it will lead to other stuff happening instead of his origin being resolved.

That would be some pretty good storytelling but it would also prevent a humorous callback line later on when he tries to order 4 more shrimp + noodles from the Chinese stand, like he mugs back to Gosling and says "they never get it right" so I don't think that will happen.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
:iceburn:

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Every character in the movie aside from Gosling is by Ford with various layers of CGI de-aging and they're all referred to as definite humans

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

exquisite tea posted:

There's a lot of talent surrounding this production on paper, and if they truly manage to do something new and inventive with the subject material, then I'll be pleasantly surprised. Just like how everybody remembers the Total Recall reboot. Or Robocop. Or that last Terminator movie.

Hey, the Robocop remake was a good film about drone warfare, and somehow made its statement better far better than a film whose plot centres on drone warfare.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






I also appreciated how they dehumanized Murphy in reverse in the remake.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

Snowman_McK posted:

Hey, the Robocop remake was a good film about drone warfare, and somehow made its statement better far better than a film whose plot centres on drone warfare.

I'd say it was a mediocre movie with maybe two good scenes about drone warfare, and a lot of scenes with pointless exposition.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

I actually look forward to this movie, Blade Runner is one of my favorite (maybe my absolute favorite) movie of all time. I don't think its via nostalgia goggles because I never saw the movie till I was a teen in the 2000's and saw the director's cut on like G4 or something after midnight, completely blew me away and all the people involved with the movie makes me hope it will be a good spiritual successor/sequel like Mad Max Fury Road compared to... other recent remakes/reboots/sequels etc. more recently.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?




Blade Runner, now guest starring M. Bison!

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

McSpanky posted:

I also appreciated how they dehumanized Murphy in reverse in the remake.

Plus, the Robocop remake had that scene.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Jack2142 posted:

I actually look forward to this movie, Blade Runner is one of my favorite (maybe my absolute favorite) movie of all time. I don't think its via nostalgia goggles because I never saw the movie till I was a teen in the 2000's and saw the director's cut on like G4 or something after midnight, completely blew me away and all the people involved with the movie makes me hope it will be a good spiritual successor/sequel like Mad Max Fury Road compared to... other recent remakes/reboots/sequels etc. more recently.

I think what made Fury Road work where others have failed is that it was still fundamentally George Miller's vision, and because of that he was able to build upon his own universe while moving forward in a new direction. This recent glut of remakes and reboots trip over themselves trying to piece back together the visual referents to the original for so long that they barely have time to contribute anything new. And because they're not directed and/or produced by their creators, there's a certain hesitance to attempt doing different for fear of offending the superfans. And so you get boring, superfluous movies that leave you wondering "what was the point of this" and nobody is happy. I know Prometheus is a controversial film, but I respected Ridley Scott's ambition and willingness to break with slavish Alien references to explore entirely new concepts in the same universe.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

exquisite tea posted:

I think what made Fury Road work where others have failed is that it was still fundamentally George Miller's vision, and because of that he was able to build upon his own universe while moving forward in a new direction. This recent glut of remakes and reboots trip over themselves trying to piece back together the visual referents to the original for so long that they barely have time to contribute anything new. And because they're not directed and/or produced by their creators, there's a certain hesitance to attempt doing different for fear of offending the superfans. And so you get boring, superfluous movies that leave you wondering "what was the point of this" and nobody is happy. I know Prometheus is a controversial film, but I respected Ridley Scott's ambition and willingness to break with slavish Alien references to explore entirely new concepts in the same universe.

I think all of this would be relevant to Blade Runner if this weren't Villanueve, but I think I'd literally prefer him directing over Ridley Scott if given the choice. I just love the run that Villanueve is on right now and I'll continue to have complete faith in him until he gives me a reason not to.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


The presence of Villanueve and Fancher are what's keeping me from declaring this a total mess outright. I'm just skeptical of this movie's ability to not get destroyed by committee, it's kind of a perfect storm of circumstances that even led to the first Blade Runner being the kind of movie it was.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

exquisite tea posted:

The presence of Villanueve and Fancher are what's keeping me from declaring this a total mess outright. I'm just skeptical of this movie's ability to not get destroyed by committee, it's kind of a perfect storm of circumstances that even led to the first Blade Runner being the kind of movie it was.

I would actually prefer David Peeples over Fancher, to be honest.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Villanueve has been one of my favorite directors recently so I'm quite optimistic. But then José Padilha had decent cred too and we know how that went. That said,

MisterBibs posted:

Plus, the Robocop remake had that scene.

This scene? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx2GuZMfNp8

I haven't seen the remake yet but if this is where it's from, I definitely need to ASAP!

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

No, I was talking about the scene where the titular character is shown how little of himself really exists.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

exquisite tea posted:

I think what made Fury Road work where others have failed is that it was still fundamentally George Miller's vision, and because of that he was able to build upon his own universe while moving forward in a new direction. This recent glut of remakes and reboots trip over themselves trying to piece back together the visual referents to the original for so long that they barely have time to contribute anything new. And because they're not directed and/or produced by their creators, there's a certain hesitance to attempt doing different for fear of offending the superfans. And so you get boring, superfluous movies that leave you wondering "what was the point of this" and nobody is happy. I know Prometheus is a controversial film, but I respected Ridley Scott's ambition and willingness to break with slavish Alien references to explore entirely new concepts in the same universe.

Yeah I agree, that's one thing I hated about the new Star Wars movies it fell too much into callbacks to the OT. The characters and new adventure was I felt relatively well executed, however there was so much in the movie that is only there to ape New Hoois and not do something new in the Universe.

As a result I sorts liked Rogue One in that it tried to do a different style of movie ( War Movie) in the Star Wars Universe, however it fell back too much on shot from previous films like randomly throwing in R2D2 and spliced in Leia, CGI Tarkin and that last bit with Vader ( while mindlessly really cool jfc it was like a cumshot in porn scene)

I think your right on the money with George Miller. Ideally this movie ends up like Fury Road in that it tells a new story in the Universe and isn't bogged down. My worst case scenario is a horrible clash between Scott and Villeneuve and we get a ducked up incomplete movie that needs a directors cut to be good 10 years later.

504
Feb 2, 2016

by R. Guyovich

Jack2142 posted:

Yeah I agree, that's one thing I hated about the new Star Wars movies it fell too much into callbacks to the OT. The characters and new adventure was I felt relatively well executed, however there was so much in the movie that is only there to ape New Hoois and not do something new in the Universe.

As a result I sorts liked Rogue One in that it tried to do a different style of movie ( War Movie) in the Star Wars Universe, however it fell back too much on shot from previous films like randomly throwing in R2D2 and spliced in Leia, CGI Tarkin and that last bit with Vader ( while mindlessly really cool jfc it was like a cumshot in porn scene)

I think your right on the money with George Miller. Ideally this movie ends up like Fury Road in that it tells a new story in the Universe and isn't bogged down. My worst case scenario is a horrible clash between Scott and Villeneuve and we get a ducked up incomplete movie that needs a directors cut to be good 10 years later.

I disagree, while the callbacks were fan service at least they were natural, C3PO and R2 were there because they were meant to be there, that's where they were in AnH. Same thing with Vader.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

OregonDonor posted:

I'm disappointed that Jared Leto is in it, though. Can't stand that dude.

Ughhhh, I hadn't heard about this.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

OregonDonor posted:

Blade Runner is my all-time favorite film, and there's really no way that this movie can retroactively gently caress up how I feel about it/what it means to me, so I'm cautiously optimistic on account of Villeneuve + Deakins and also Gosling's involvement. I'm disappointed that Jared Leto is in it, though. Can't stand that dude.

Leto was great in Fight Club

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Phi230 posted:

Leto was great in Fight Club

Enough! It's time to re-evaluate and appreciate Jared Leto.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Phi230 posted:

Leto was great in Fight Club

It'a not like he has a huge part, he is basically only there to be beaten to a pulp-

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Villeneuve just signed on to direct a Dune reboot after Blade Runner.

The guy's going to explode and become the next Christopher Nolan or these movies will sink his career. Should be interesting, and I'm betting on Villenueve.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
Leto is good in Lord of War too.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Basebf555 posted:

Villeneuve just signed on to direct a Dune reboot after Blade Runner.

The guy’s going to explode and become the next Christopher Nolan or these movies will sink his career. Should be interesting, and I’m betting on Villenueve.
If he goes back to making small original films I’ll be okay with that.

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.

Basebf555 posted:

Villeneuve just signed on to direct a Dune reboot after Blade Runner.

The guy's going to explode and become the next Christopher Nolan or these movies will sink his career. Should be interesting, and I'm betting on Villenueve.

Whether these movies are good or not, I don't think "sinking his career" is a realistic concern. I mean, sure, they might stop trusting him with big blockbuster-y properties. But Sicario and Arrival are the loving poo poo. He's already proven he's goddamn great at making movies.

(I'll believe Dune when I see it. That's one of those movies that's juggled around a dozen directors over the last few decades. It's like Neuromancer...there'll be a report of some attached director, before it winds up right back on the shelf.)

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Previously the rights were a tangled mess though. Producers and directors would want it, but the logistics just dissolved any plans. That's all sorted now and the studio is fully ready to make the film happen. They've just been looking for writers and directors since announcing securing all necessary rights a few months back.

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Jun 22, 2004

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Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

I watched Blade Runner last night for the first time in many many years and this was pretty surreal.

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